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EmmyOk posted:Koichi sucks and has always sucked, Okuyasu is a prince Saying he sucks is a bit extreme, but then again, he is a notorious thief who lacks dignity, so maybe you're right.
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Sep 15, 2018 16:40
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Sep 18, 2018 02:42
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Please do not show me that at this time.
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Sep 18, 2018 03:30
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stands are so much better of a battle system it's not even funny ripple loving sucks
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Sep 18, 2018 03:37
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Oh sure, Star Platinum pulls out new powers to service the plot and everyone says it's ridiculous. But Joseph does whatever the gently caress with his Ripple and everyone says that's top tier writing.  The one thing I do miss from Hamon era is the supernatural stuff, which is why I like Morioh's ghost alley and the Rohan OVA stuff.
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Sep 18, 2018 03:44
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if jojo hadn't introduced stands it probably would have faded into obscurity i say this independent of the chad/virgin meme
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Sep 18, 2018 03:47
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Cursed image.
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Sep 18, 2018 15:15
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Expect My Mom posted:stands are so much better of a battle system it's not even funny Johnny Joestar posted:if jojo hadn't introduced stands it probably would have faded into obscurity Of course stands are better than ripple but ripple doesn’t suck. I think in a lot of ways Battle Tendency set the tone, style, and conflict dynamics of the series and while it lacks the complexity of stands and the unique hook that provides, it’s still quintessentially Jojo. After I finished the 4 anime parts I skipped ahead to part 7 of the manga and I really like how it starts with spin, the ripple equivalent that does whatever the plot needs it to, and gradually introduces stands. Sure, stands are good and cool and important, but they’re not the only thing that makes Jojo what it is. There’s also solar powered martial arts and murder bocce.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:05
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I would honestly say Stands are in fact what make JoJo what is. Ripple was extremely of it's era, coming in the wake of martial arts, "ki" users style of battle manga like Dragonball and Fist of the North Star and so Araki looked to those to tell his absurd globetrotting adventure. But it's when Stands come into the the play that Araki truly steps forward as a leader in his field. These abilities that can do anything, that anyone can have, really allowed Araki to flex his creative muscle so strongly, going on to influence Hunter x Hunter and Persona in their battle systems. Sure, Stands are just as inconsistent at Ripple at times, but it will always look cooler to have a weird ghost coming out of your body when it happens, and just overall allows for more dynamism not only in the battles, but in the art, something that's perfect for someone who has a deep sense of their personal brand like Araki. Araki does go back and refine the idea of a more physical, energy based battle system, but at that point it's putting a good side dish with your already fantastic meal. I like it, and I'll gladly eat it, but i don't need it. I totally agree that JoJo would've been a funny novelty of it's time if Part 3 had been Old Joseph teaching his grandson about Ripple to defeat DIO the evil vampire who can also use Ripple.
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Don’t get me wrong, I love stands and their uniqueness, and I know ripple was very similar to other ki based powers in other manga, but I think the applications were different than it’s contemporaries. Not so much in phantom blood, but the first time we see Joseph use it in battle tendency he makes a coke bottle open and shoots the cap at a cops trigger finger. When he first encounters a vampire you think he’s going to use Harmon but the first thing he does is pull out a tommy gun. The whole part is characterized by a “work smarter, not harder” mentality that continues through the whole series. It’s that “work ethic” that differentiated Jojo from other popular battle manga of the time.
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Sep 18, 2018 18:42
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Young Joseph is better than Jotaro tho, wasn't that the point of it all?
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Sep 18, 2018 20:34
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Ripple finished at the perfect time because it finished when it was still woke as opposed to deus ex overdrive
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Sep 18, 2018 21:54
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EmmyOk posted:Ripple finished at the perfect time because it finished when it was still woke as opposed to deus ex overdrive I agree with this; the story invents all kinds of weird application for the ripple, but it mostly avoids power creep and nothing overstays it's welcome. Battle Tendency is just very strongly paced, in general.
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Sep 18, 2018 22:41
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I meant to say wild lol but yeah
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Sep 18, 2018 22:46
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EmmyOk posted:I meant to say wild lol but yeah socialist red overdrive sending ripples thru the bourgeoisie
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Sep 18, 2018 22:57
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Stands are better than ripple because, in the long run, I think Araki saw where most shounen battle manga was going and said "Yeah, I'm not doing that". Like yeah, stands still have some "power levels" to them, but what makes them so fun is that, at the end of the day, stands are just a tool for the characters. And ripple seemed so loosely-defined that, a poorer writer would've probably coasted on that. What made Dio vs Jotaro so goddamn good wasn't their Punchman Ghosts duking it out: It was Dio trying to toy with an increasingly angry/frustrated Jotaro, Jotaro realizing early on that he's not going to live to tell about it unless he uses his brains to bullshit his way out of it and the resulting struggle. Dio realizes earlier that, despite ostensibly having taken care of the "smart kid" (Kakyoin...  ) while knowing both that A) The World being incredibly powerful and B) his current rival being an old man pushing 70, that not taking precautions is gonna result in one dead Dio. Some of that is also present in part 2 where, despite Joseph knowing enough ripple to make do against his enemies, what nets him his victories against everyone is not his ripple knowledge, but the fact that dude is sharp as heck. Hell, look at his introduction: He weaponizes "monologuing" in two different ways.
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"Muh rights as a cop!", Joseph is having none of that poo poo and cold-cocks that little bitch's nose/finger into oblivion.
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EmmyOk posted:I meant to say wild lol but yeah woke BT is the exactly the same but Lisa Lisa vs Cars is a real fight
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Wark Say posted:Stands are better than ripple because, in the long run, I think Araki saw where most shounen battle manga was going and said "Yeah, I'm not doing that". Like yeah, stands still have some "power levels" to them, but what makes them so fun is that, at the end of the day, stands are just a tool for the characters. And ripple seemed so loosely-defined that, a poorer writer would've probably coasted on that. What made Dio vs Jotaro so goddamn good wasn't their Punchman Ghosts duking it out: It was Dio trying to toy with an increasingly angry/frustrated Jotaro, Jotaro realizing early on that he's not going to live to tell about it unless he uses his brains to bullshit his way out of it and the resulting struggle.  Schwarzwald posted:I agree with this; the story invents all kinds of weird application for the ripple, but it mostly avoids power creep and nothing overstays it's welcome. Yeah and while Stardust Crusaders improved a lot of things and the highs are higher, the lows are also lower in SC, and Battle Tendency still has better pacing overall. Pomplamoose fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Sep 19, 2018 04:18
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Schwarzwald posted:woke BT is the exactly the same but Lisa Lisa vs Cars is a real fight Also Smokey gets to use Ripple.
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Sep 19, 2018 04:29
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Even though I like Jojos being smart it's kinda hosed but some of my favorite poo poo is when Joseph 100% deus ex machinas some horseshit out of his rear end. Where'd you get that gun Joseph? Hey Joseph where'd you get like 6 grenades and manage to attach them to someone, all tied together to another grenade's pin in the span of a few seconds without anyone noticing?
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Sep 19, 2018 05:31
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Schwarzwald posted:woke BT is the exactly the same but Lisa Lisa vs Cars is a real fight And our protagonists don't sympathise with Nazis.
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Sep 19, 2018 06:37
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Glagha posted:Even though I like Jojos being smart it's kinda hosed but some of my favorite poo poo is when Joseph 100% deus ex machinas some horseshit out of his rear end. Where'd you get that gun Joseph? Hey Joseph where'd you get like 6 grenades and manage to attach them to someone, all tied together to another grenade's pin in the span of a few seconds without anyone noticing? I didn’t mind that but Hamon started as sunlight energy to kill vampires but by the end of BT it had 50 different one time uses or aspects
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I think the pacing argument is the accurate one. Young Joseph, much like Kamina, isn't around long enough to get annoying. I wonder if fans at the time also bitched about the absence of the Ripple.
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Sep 19, 2018 11:48
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Making a fansub of part 1 and 2 where every instance of "Hamon" is replaced with big dick energy.
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Sep 20, 2018 03:54
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Ripple is basically just a stand power that lets you control surface tension. The vampire killing stuff is a boring side power.
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Sep 20, 2018 05:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1UNXnAsGew This taste...
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Sep 20, 2018 16:03
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This season looks a lot more kinetic, I'm really excited. I was kind of worried when I saw there were a good amount of staff changes but I feel pretty confident seeing the result. If its anything like the step up from Part 3 to 4, this is gonna rule
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Expect My Mom posted:This season looks a lot more kinetic, I'm really excited. I was kind of worried when I saw there were a good amount of staff changes but I feel pretty confident seeing the result. If its anything like the step up from Part 3 to 4, this is gonna rule I see this happening a lot with anime studios and I always wonder why they don't stick around with the staff that makes them winning stuff. Like with movie productions, you see that eventually directors find who they work best and eventually produce everything with that group. You see the same poo poo sometime where a game company decide to shift a good team to another product and then make a sequel with a new team and surprise surprise, new team makes a poo poo product. It's all about team cohesion/chemistry.
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Sep 20, 2018 19:20
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Can't be a Bruno PV without licking.
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StarMinstrel posted:I see this happening a lot with anime studios and I always wonder why they don't stick around with the staff that makes them winning stuff. Like with movie productions, you see that eventually directors find who they work best and eventually produce everything with that group. You see the same poo poo sometime where a game company decide to shift a good team to another product and then make a sequel with a new team and surprise surprise, new team makes a poo poo product. It's all about team cohesion/chemistry. I think DP has always had a pretty different production team for each part so they feel distinct.
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StarMinstrel posted:I see this happening a lot with anime studios and I always wonder why they don't stick around with the staff that makes them winning stuff. Like with movie productions, you see that eventually directors find who they work best and eventually produce everything with that group. You see the same poo poo sometime where a game company decide to shift a good team to another product and then make a sequel with a new team and surprise surprise, new team makes a poo poo product. It's all about team cohesion/chemistry. It's certainly not a bad thing to have a new director or core staff (it starts looking weird when an entire production company changes like One Punch Man Season 2). and can some times be better or a little different, which is why it's important to see what other work they've done I really can't think of a reason to not be excited with the new staff and some of the new style changes it looks like this season will do. Part 5 has some weird bits that I'm curious how they'll get smoothed over or adapted, but David has frequently changed or adjusted some scenes to fit better so I'm really excited to be more of an anime guy for this season, Part 5 is def the part I remember the least about
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I'm not sure how it is in anime specifically but in Hollywood and the like, 90% of the team are independent or agencied contractors, not full time employees, so in the time it takes between a project finishing and the continuation getting greenlit its entirely possible that a lot of the staff has agreed to other projects just to keep food on the table.
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Sep 21, 2018 16:24
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Is it on Fridays or Tuesdays?
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Sep 21, 2018 16:48
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Anime's similar in that most of the staff is freelancers. There are some animators who primarily do work for specific studios, and of course KyoAni just has a stable of salaried workers, but it's mostly freelance.Grouchio posted:Is it on Fridays or Tuesdays? 
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Sep 21, 2018 16:50
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Is there a Jojo countdown timer somewhere?
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Sep 21, 2018 18:17
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https://twitter.com/kellengoff/status/1043720950389202944 Kellen Goff has voiced a handful of animatronics in the Five Nights at Freddy's series. E: Akira is voiced by Andrew Russell, who I can find no information on. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Sep 23, 2018 |
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Sep 23, 2018 05:52
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Part 9 will have 39 episodes, like part 4, sounds good.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:59
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Kurtofan posted:Part 9 will have 39 episodes, like part 4, sounds good. Part 9 confirmed!!!!!!
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i saw that too but could never find a source the part 9 part is new to me tho
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