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SeannieDarko posted:We're probably enemies too cuz I hate Cyborg and his being in the League at the expense of Martian Manhunter. He's a Titan dammit! Actually, given the rosters, he'd be a Teen Titan. However, it's still bizarre to me that they decided what we need in 2016 is a Silver Age Titans roster. Like, if Damian's team was all new legacy heroes like the gay Aqualad and black Wally and, like, Natasha Irons Steel or something, and then Nightwing was leading the New Teen Titans roster, I'd get it.
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SonicRulez posted:I'm doing more reading on Rebirth since my knowledge of the DC Universe is fragmented at best. Why do we have two Teen Titans books both led by Bat Kids and why are neither of them led by Tim Drake? Which book will he be in? Is he back to being Robin while Damian is leading the Teen Titans? How is Nightwing not Secret Agent Man anymore again?That last one I may have already been told. They're technically not both TEEN Titans, plus it's DC, and they'll never stop trying to make you care about Silver Age books you've never read, but one guy in the editorial office really loves. Tim is still Red Robin, in a less silly outfit, and will be in Detective Comics, as part of a team of rookie Bat-heroes led by Batman and Batwoman. Damian is still Robin. Nightwing, I believe, finished his secret agent double-agent job, and the evil spy group collapsed, but they used their secret spy tech to erase his identity from people's minds, so he can be Nightwing again.
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May 26, 2016 23:42
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RusteJuxx posted:
No mention of a JSA or Legion book, which is weird when like 8 pages of the one-shot were devoted to setting up that those groups exist (except the LoSH already existed, considering they had 2 ongoings at the start of the Nu52, right?)
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May 27, 2016 01:40
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I forget, does 'Tec always outsell Batman or is it that Action outdoes Superman? Also, for gently caress's sake, DC, if you actually want to pretend like the Trinity all matter equally, launch a print Sensation Comics.
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May 27, 2016 01:47
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Travis343 posted:Novices that include Stephanie Brown. NO NO We are not going back to the Tim Drake/Stephanie Brown drama well. I just got over the PTSD from the Convergence mini.
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May 27, 2016 01:52
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Oh, the whole book is full of it. The classic 9 panel layout in the opening is right out of the Dr Manhattan origin issue. And as I said, I really liked the final segment for how closely it mimicked Gibbons & co.
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May 27, 2016 02:37
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Bizarro and Batman Beyond I'm not even sure why they bothered releasing. It's like... yeah, that's the Beyond suit? On another subject, as the only person reading JL 3001 in the forum, can I ask which book Giffen's writing in the Rebirth lineup, because it's likely the only chance of paying off the cliffhanger he and JMdM pulled in that book's final issue. The 3001 Flash and Batgirl are sent back to 2016 by the main villain, who is revealed to be the Flash's mother. Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 22:47 on May 28, 2016 |
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May 28, 2016 22:45
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Teenage Fansub posted:
I loved the sequence where she's lamenting how they can't possibly beat the robot army because they don't know how they work, and would need to be able to examine every inch of them while not being in range for more than a moment in order to figure it out... and suddenly  "...good thing I'm the Flash... the fastest woman alive!" Hell, the final line up was actually fairly neat in how it re-subverted the original gimmick. The revived JL3K league all had crappier versions of their powers, like a knockoff of the original, but by the end you have the real Supergirl, a Batgirl who was every bit as smart and resourceful as Bruce Wayne (and as smug and bratty as Damian Wayne) and a Flash who seemed to be getting more powerful with every issue, deliberately.
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May 29, 2016 01:06
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Toxxupation posted:I mean, it's really obvious that DC's trying to make Super-Man into Spider-Man. Only, you know, literally over a decade after Invincible made that idea novel. But jeez, everything about that character design reads like DC critically misunderstanding why Spider-Man works as a hero, and just sharing the most surface level similarities (Red suit! Teen who gets his powers one day out of the blue and has to grapple with getting control of them! Outsider! Hyphenated superhero name!) without actually getting why Peter Parker works. Also they seem determined to wreck their two actual good attempts at a Spider-Man in the last 20 years: Blue Beetle (Jaime) and Batman Beyond (Terry's whole thing is "WHAT IF SPIDER-MAN.... WAS BATMAN!?")
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May 29, 2016 01:42
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It's amusing to imagine him giving the same rant when Hal Jordan was replaced by Kyle Rayner. Or John Stewart. Oh, god, this is what a HEAT member sounds like, isn't it?
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May 31, 2016 00:25
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Be aware that it does minorly cross over into Batgirl as well. (More that the Academy is important to a running plot in Batgirl than the other way round)
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May 31, 2016 03:11
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Is the Lumberjanes thing still a mini? Because the synopsis on Comixology makes it sound a lot like a one-shot.
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May 31, 2016 03:22
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The Big 2 threshold I've always seen was below 20k was basically living on borrowed time. 30k and critical buzz would normally be OK. 50 would be considered a breakout hit, especially if it wasn't a title featuring an existing 'Name'.
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May 31, 2016 03:44
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Would the logic not just be 'Earth is where all the poo poo starts, best to have a whole bunch of space cops there to deal with it'?
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Jun 1, 2016 13:35
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ImpAtom posted:I like how they just keep getting more and more desperate in their attempts to make Calendar Man a ~SERIOUS VILLAIN~ Which they did this time by going "WHAT IF HE WAS A SNAKE BUT ALSO DOCTOR WHO?!"
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Jun 2, 2016 22:28
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X-O posted:Well if D_T hates him then he's probably at least pretty good. I think he wrote the really fun 'Diana at the boardwalk' story that Noelle Stevenson drew for Sensation Comics, too.
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Jun 3, 2016 00:41
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Unkempt posted:I just saw a TV advert for Rebirth. That's a new one. They ran a few for the New 52 as well.
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Jun 4, 2016 00:20
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Yeah, Dan didn't even pretend to answer the first question. At least the non-answer to the second pays lip-service by going "Yes but no"
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Jun 4, 2016 03:12
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 Aw, I was hoping Metamorpho would be good. The old Haney/Fradon stuff is really kitschy and fun and I even liked fake Metamorpho from Winick's Outsiders.
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Jun 4, 2016 22:55
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So he's good in the same way Doom is over at Marvel?
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Jun 6, 2016 22:48
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lotus circle posted:It's here now! That's called playing the hand you're dealt, and not just mulliganing until you get the cards you think you should've gotten in the first place.
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Jun 7, 2016 03:05
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Endless Mike posted:When Dr. Manhattan was siphoning 10 years of time and love and hope from the DCU, he liked what was happening to Batman and the earthbound Green Lanterns (but not Alan Scott) and wanted to see how it played out so he only took the time but NOT their lives from them even though it doesn't make much sense. Come on, why is this so hard to understand??? See, this is why Geoff should've made it Superboy Prime.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:41
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X-O posted:Dan Didio: "They have Star Wars. We have Wacky Raceland." WB Exec: "Why haven't you asked if you could do Harry Potter comics?"
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Jun 7, 2016 23:25
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Edge & Christian posted:People are kind of understating how DCYou "didn't do that well in singles" or "didn't sell great" or whatever. For better or worse, when there are sales like this on your launch titles that don't directly involve Batmans: God that Prez number is depressing from a quality-to-sales standpoint.
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Jun 7, 2016 23:55
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:I have to agree with Teenage Fansub. Honestly, there's not really a good way to keep Azzarello's drastic departure with the Amazons AND have the kind of stuff you'd hire Rucka to do with Wonder Woman. One of them has to go, and as they've hired Rucka, the whole 'things keep shifting' explanation is likely the best you'll get. I'm actually curious if either of you read Wonder Woman before the New 52. It strikes me as a similar situation to the colouring debate going on in the chat thread. If you've never seen the original colouring, in some cases the new stuff actually looks better, but if you HAVE seen the old stuff, it feels wrong and brutal.
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Jun 8, 2016 14:10
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That kind of one character show is always a tricky thing. Do you have the character actually talk to themselves? Do it all internal monologue? (I only just got around to reading the full issue) I actually think Rucka did an admirable job leaving the Azzarello run open and valid for those that liked it. It didn't feel like he was unduly weighting the other versions. And there was some nice use of the negative space in the gutters. I'd agree that there could maybe have been a better setting than Diana moping in a hotel room, but as a mission statement, I don't think it was too wordy, mostly because while the theme is simple, the context is actually quite complicated and if you're assuming (rightly, given the pre-orders and our own Toxxupation's admission) that this is someone's first Wonder Woman comic, they NEED a lot of this info to make sense of what's happening. At least it wasn't a monologue of "As you know, your mother, the queen..." type stuff.
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greatn posted:Come on, you know he's totally right though. It really wasn't. It present all of her backstories as conflicting and confusing yet seeming equally valid to her, and for someone that Rucka's positioned as the Goddess of Truth in the past, that's inherently disturbing. The only thing I can see that it utterly dropped was the "Amazons are child-murdering rapists" which... uh... anyone who isn't named Brian Azzarello would immediately have dropped anyway. Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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SonicRulez posted:What are the great non-Heart of Ice Mr. Freeze stories? His appearance in Batman Beyond? Believe it or not, all of his appearances in the Arkham video games are really good. The DLC ones for Origins and Knight are especially good and the latter actually gives his and Nora's story an appropriately bittersweet end.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:16
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Toxxupation posted:As a superhero? Totally. By "bad" I mean that's she's practically nonexistent and a charisma-less void in comparison to bad superheroes like, say, Red Hood or Hal Jordan or N52 Starfire, who are just total pricks. I think Stephanie Brown, on-again/off-again girlfriend of Tim Drake who's the daughter of a super-criminal trying to redeem her tarnished family legacy, she makes a good counterpoint to Tim. Their personalities mesh in a way that their romance makes sense. It's just the instant she puts on her totally generic costume she fades totally and completely into the background. Her current costume IS the redesign. It's much less cartoony than the original and takes elements from the well-received pre-N52 run where she was Batgirl (which, add to your gigantic convoluted list, because it's exactly the stuff you like. It's like a DC version of, say, Silk)
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Jun 12, 2016 19:15
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A Dark Trinity is a fairly rote but still cool concept, but the problem is they shouldn't be in their own title. They should be the VILLAINS for the actual Trinity book. Jason and Bizarro have literally been villains, and Artemis' claim to fame was being the Azrael to Diana's Batman.
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Jun 12, 2016 20:36
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I never said Artemis was bad, but she was absolutely the edgy, violent Wonder Woman replacement from the 90s, just like Azrael was for Batman.
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Travis343 posted:
"YAHHHHH I'M SUPERMAN! SEE! SUPERMAN HAS HAIR ON HIS HEAD BUT NOT ON HIS CHIN!"
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Teenage Fansub posted:Flintstones looks super loving interesting. Fred Flintstone by way of Don Draper...? gently caress it, I'm in.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:18
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Rhyno posted:I'd completely forgotten about this book, are we also getting a Jetsons revamp? Not yet. This, the Scooby-Doo post-apocalypse one, the Wacky Races-meets-Barb Wire thing, and Jeff Parker's Space Ghost/Birdman/Jonny Quest team-up are the only ones so far. But if Flintstones sells, I imagine Jetsons wouldn't be far behind.
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Toxxupation posted:I would like Green Lanterns more if they wrote their weaknesses/quirks with any level of nuance beyond just saying that they have them. So we get Simon Baz constantly talking how he's a former criminal and was imprisoned wrongly as a terrorist, but knowingly was transporting a car bomb or something, or I dunno what having a meeting with the authorities and going "HOW DARE THEY PROFILE ME" and it all comes off as the most obvious and dullest contemporary criticism as character. Or Jessica's weird agoraphobia/social anxiety manifesting as reading her boring interior dialog about how she hates public spaces and has a hard time dealing with other people as her sister tells her that in order to be her roommate she's gonna have to learn how to deal with other people and go out in public. It's all very obvious and people just walking around stating their themes. Wait... I thought Johns wasn't writing comics for a while?
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Jun 16, 2016 01:49
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Space Fish posted:On the one hand: DC could use some recap pages, badly, to straighten out characters' backstories, at least at the start of a each arc to set some continuity rules and prop up the newbies. I thought he did that because he was copying Mark Waid? Didn't Waid come up with the "My name is Wally West... {situation summary} Good thing I'm The Flash, the fastest man alive..." shtick?
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Jun 16, 2016 03:05
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:N52 TT, Rebirth TT, Titans #3 and BB #1 solicits Also we're getting a Raven mini by Marv Wolfman? Did we know this already? And good GOD DC, NO-ONE cares about your stupid Future's End timeline, just reboot Batman Beyond and pretend the last run never happened!
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Jun 18, 2016 22:51
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Travis343 posted:Then he's not a professional anything, is he? Pro-wrestling, at the level this dude probably does it, is basically something you do and hope the guy running the show gives you a sandwich after your match. Like a lot of entertainment forms, you have to be REALLY good to make a living at an indie level, or be decent and know the right people to get your foot in at the mainstream brands. I have not seen this man wrestle, but I suspect he may not be that good. And if he knew someone, he wouldn't be making this film.
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Jun 23, 2016 21:36
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Toxxupation posted:Jason Todd gets a lot of poo poo but James Gordon, Jr. might legit be the worst Batman-adjacent character ever. On one level you're right, but I said it at the time and I'll say it again, if you want comics to appeal to young people and especially young women, you go to where they are. It's why I roll my eyes when people bitch about Marguerite Bennet using tumblr stuff in her books. The audience that is being directly courted is EXACTLY the type of people who use hashtags in real life and are always on tumblr, Instagram and Snapchat and use Tinder for hookups. I'll also say it eases back a smidge on those elements in the later issues because it's already established a brand.
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redbackground posted:I did not. Because once again, I am definitely not an adult male who enjoys Puffy AmiYumi. How much of it did you not watch?
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