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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
When are Jason and Roy gonna gently caress.

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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Mr Hootington posted:

Jason Todd going straight edge would be the best take on the character in years.

I would read a Jason Todd comic we’re instead of being edgier he became a nonviolent Boy Scout.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

nofather posted:

I'm not quite sure how that would even work. Even Superman needs to punch things sometimes.

He just walks into a criminal situation, tells them to stop and do right, and they agree?

Jason Todd reforms the criminal justice system.

Jason Todd speaks out about the dangers of nationalism.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I can’t believe they had good boy pacifist Jason Todd go maximum edge.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I can’t say whether King is a good or bad writer but he does seem to like Misery porn Batman so fans turning against that shouldn’t be surprising

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

nofather posted:

Considering how much they eat up the flat out 'Batman is poo poo' comics from Batman writers who straight out don't like him I wouldn't think so. The marriage thing is a hitch (normally I'd expect it to be revisited at the end of King's run), and the spoiler and advertising just ended up making the Catwoman aspect overshadow the Bane one. King's a good writer, and this is what happens. He has a story arc, then he has a buffer issue or two. We'll get back to Nightwing and his brain injury in the next few weeks.

Anyways.

The Signal appears in the Unexpected. Did anyone else who read it think he looks startlingly like Wolverine?



What does that have to do with anything I said.

Batman is poo poo and Batman must suffer aren’t the same thing.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Luckily this isn’t a witch hunt.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Norwegian Rudo posted:

They don't and it's never even been suggested that they are.

Then what is the point

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Endless Mike posted:

To get you to buy their comics.

That’s.....insanely dumb.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Mr Hootington posted:

Batgirl and superman confirmed dead

So is the concept of crisis.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Kurtofan posted:

that's pretty funny, most american males are circumcised (or at least most american males of bruce's generation)

Anti circumcised crusaders are a small but very very vocal group.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

The Question IRL posted:

Maybe in America. In most other countries in the world, boys just aren’t circumcised (unless it’s for religious reasons.)

But for where Gotham is and his age, yeah Bruce would probably have gotten the cut.

Now Superman, unless there was a Kryptonian Rabbi around, shouldn’t have gotten the snip.

Wait are you saying there are anti circumcision crusaders in states that don’t do it.

What do they do

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
It also uses tribe instead of flock or you know what Ravens groups are actually called.

It’s insanely lazy.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I think it’s more creators not having much to work with so resorting to bringing up anything memorable they can.

Like with Hank and beating his wife.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Onmi posted:

They could try being creative. Like some sort of creator.

This Is comics, the only art we know is homage.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Rage and redemption? I thought Jason had transcended to Saturday morning cartoon friendship is magic?

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Posting one page isn’t exactly a convincing argument.

Even 90s Batman who was miserable all the time had a couple light hearted pages here and there.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I’m not asking him to post more panels just pointing out intentionally smoltsy panels doesn’t prove much.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

The original statement was that N52 was am angry, angsty cloud. That page disproves she was angsty and was in fact a pretty happy and well adjusted character. You can also checky any cover and see she was consistently drawn smiling.

And that is ultimately my issue with people here, Lobdell is not a perfect writer and has flaws in his craft that can (and should) be criticized. Bitch and moan over stuff that isn't even what happened on his stories though? That is bullshit.

A single page can’t prove poo poo. That’s horribly reductive way of thinking. You can throw a page or two of forced pathos easily and it’s something Lobdell is known for.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Yeah Batman being an Atheist in the sense of how the Christians see god actually works. As in that sense the new gods aren’t really gods in that context. From a more pagan sense the new gods make sense as pagan gods are basically just really powerful wizards.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I mean I don’t see why Christians would care about Darkseid. He’s functionally no different from any super power being.

He calls himself a god but he can’t do any of the poo poo they view as godlike

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Yeah the Jokers biggest problem is the only way for people to show him as a threat is for him to be super competent. Instead of unpredictable and arbitrary.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I mean Morrison just seems to be a prick.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Halloween Jack posted:

I can't blame him for trolling the remarkably humourless goth wizard pornographer.

Morrison is a wizard too?

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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Are we sure Morrison and Moore aren’t the same guy

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