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Semper Fudge posted:
So we're having two Supermen running around? That is a pretty interesting premise.
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Mar 26, 2016 22:33
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This is it, the final Solicit for Red Hood/Arsenal.  RED HOOD/ARSENAL #13 Written by SCOTT LOBDELL Art by JOE BENNETT Cover by ROBSON ROCHA The Joker’s Daughter’s master plan is revealed! Are Jason and Roy strong enough take down both Duela and the Iron Rule? And what will it cost them? Find out in the shocking conclusion to RED HOOD/ ARSENAL! On sale JUNE 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE 
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Mar 28, 2016 20:18
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But seriously, is going to be super lovely if N52 Superman doesn't get a proper closure.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:05
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BrianWilly posted:And unless Kyle's newfound hyper-religiousness and Spanish-fluency is some Nu52 New Guardians thing I missed, I'm gonna assume King just pulled it out of his butt. That is something he lifted from Winnick's run (specifically from the Ion arc) where he revealed that Kyle's long lost father was a mexican guy working for the CIA. That being said, the way King is handled this semi-retcon (New Guardians showed Kyle's father to be a mechanic with no allusion to his nationality) is slightly irritating. Kyle was never shown to be particularly religious and suddenly become like that just after recovering his mexican heritage implies King has a poor understanding of the mexican culture as whole. These days the only truly religious people around are people who grew during the 70's or earlier, as times changed religion stopped being a pillar for the average mexican. The exception to this of course, are those who were raised on small towns relatively isolated from the big cities where they haven't been so influenced by modern society. Anyways, DC has released a colored version of the Superwoman cover and the filename identifies the character on it as Lois. http://www.newsarama.com/28746-lois-lane-takes-flight-as-superwoman.html
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Apr 8, 2016 17:50
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Squizzle posted:DT, no bullshit, please keep offering commentary on anything and everything related to Mexican history and culture in comics. Genetic Toaster posted:Thanks for the insight, this is actually really interesting. (Both as someone with only a passing familiarity with the GL books, and even less familiarity with mexican history & culture.) Glad you guys found my ramblings informative  I don't mind when people takes artistic liberties when depicting Mexico or its culture but it really puts me in a bad mood when they try (openly or implicitly)to pass off those liberties as a proper depiction of my country and its people. BrianWilly posted:Yeah, I was trying to stop just short of saying "Not My Kyle Rayner," but...that's what it is, basically. This ain't any Kyle I know. I bailed from the book after the third issue but it was hard to ignore how Kyle was so incompetent to allow most of the plot to happen. I mean, I understand as White Lantern Kyle is pretty OP but I'm sure there are better ways to handle it than making Kyle hog the idiot ball all the time. Anyways the preview for RH/A 11 has been released and goddamn, Roy looks loving awesome here  I will miss Roy and Jason working together, they have such a great chemistry. At least the new outlaws will have a good artist. 
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Apr 8, 2016 21:54
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DrProsek posted:In Titans he's an alcoholic again. I don't think Lobdell has implied he is in the Lobdell-verse but then again that hat is a sign something has gone horribly wrong in Roy's life. Roy has been an alcoholic since the start of the N52.  In fact, Killer Croc is his AA sponsor 
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Apr 9, 2016 04:27
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DrProsek posted:My bad; in Titans he's actively drinking again, in RHaA, he's a recovering alcoholic. I know he's been a alcoholic for a while now (apparently since the start of N52), but when I said "he's an alcoholic again" I meant he's drinking again in Titans (which is inaccurate since a recovering alcoholic can still be called "an alcoholic"). Yeah, Roy drinking again on Titan's Hunt is one of the things it killed my interest on the series. For five years Lobdell has written Roy as someone that while still struggling with the temptation still has enough will to remain sober. On Titan's Hunt not only Roy's will is trashed, it also feels like Abnett just did it for cheap drama.
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Apr 9, 2016 04:40
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Edge & Christian posted:Also this seems like a strange generalization to make when like half a million people turned out in Mexico City to see the Pope. Were they all isolated small towners? All old people? Mass hallucination? Hipsters in it for the Pope fame but not actually religious? Old people is the majority of the population in the country for a significant margin. And while Francisco got a lot of people, is a lot less of what Juan Pablo II gathered back then.
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Apr 9, 2016 19:53
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Edge & Christian posted:I guess that depends a lot on your definition of "old" is, 70% of the Mexican population is under 40. which is a lot younger than the United States (for example). Most of the photos of Francis's visit shows a lot of young (children, teens, young adults) at his events, though it's possible that that even more young people came out to see JPII during one of this visits. And Catholicism is on the decline in Mexico: only 83% of Mexicans identified as Catholic in 2010, as opposed to 96% fifty years ago. That was my point actually, these days the percentage of mexicans that actually practice the catholicisim is notieable lower and those who do practice it are older people rather than young adults or teens. I was present on some visits of JPII and back then, the streets where he passed through were bursting at the seams with people expecting to catch at least a glimpse of the pope, something that didn't happened during Francis' visit. On a country level, is true the younger poblation is more numerous but that poblation isn't spread evenly. According to the 2015 report from the National Institute of Stadistic and Geography Mexico City is the entity where the older poblation is more abundant. And the issue isn't that Kyle suddenly had a religious epiphany but that it happened at the same time his mexican inheritance became a thing again. This gave me the distinctive feeling his religious awakening was because his mexican inheritancenot because he had a moment of reflexion that made him reevaluate his worldviews.
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Apr 9, 2016 20:44
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Edge & Christian posted:I don't mean to get into a demographic argument, since it's really besides the point. I don't feel like constructing charts, but your initial post said that no one under 40 was religious, certainly not in cities, and King doesn't understand Mexico because he thinks people are still religious. It really looks like I said people over 40 were the ones truly religious, that is the ones that pray go the church and the like. For the most part everyone else that identifies themselves as catholic is not practicing. True, Kyle never lived on Mexico but also was never depicted as a devout catholic either and thus, his current characterization is basically the stereotype of all mexicans being religious.
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Apr 9, 2016 21:20
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bobkatt013 posted:Or him dealing with the insane poo poo he is dealing with right now/ in the past or having some connection with earth. Well, an event big enough to change the worldview of the character should've been shown on screen don't you think?
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Apr 9, 2016 21:39
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The thing it bothers me the most about Superwoman is that pretty much we just saw the same idea on the Truth and the Super League arcs. It makes me feel like those two arcs were just a colossal waste of time and unecessarily shitted all over N52 Supes. Assholes  Oh well, this is what I was expecting for  quote:"Now the Red Hood plans to use his status as a villain to take down Gotham’s underworld from the inside. Joined by a fallen Amazon named Artemis, and a half-baked Superman clone named Bizarro, this dark trinity will soon discover that the line between hero and villain is difficult to discern…" 
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Apr 12, 2016 04:54
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Welp  I wonder how much of this was planned or if is a byproduct of Rebirth. In any case, another solid issue where Roy is the star and we get to know more about him and what it makes him tick. This panel in particular was really sweet  I always liked their relationship so is great to see Lobdell hasn't forgotten about them
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Apr 14, 2016 17:30
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Codependent Poster posted:Boy that Red Hood sure is quite the hero, what with killing a mentally unstable teenage girl and all. To be fair, he tried his best to help her. Goign so far to get her checked by a psychiatrist and she rejected his help.
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Apr 14, 2016 18:38
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DrProsek posted:I mean, if Jason thought one session with a therapist was all it should have taken and if he thinks JD relapsing/rejecting psychiatric help is a failure on her part, I don't think Jason should be offering psychiatric help to anyone. Was more Duela rubbing in his face that everything was a ruse actually.   
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Apr 14, 2016 18:56
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DrProsek posted:Yeah I know, that's my point though; if he's so upset by the fact a person he considered mentally ill wasnt responding to treatment and was even hostile to getting treated, he probably shouldn't have involved himself in the mental health/treatment of a mentally ill stranger to begin with. My point was you can't say "to be fair he tried to help her" when he's so clearly lovely at it. Well, he's more upset at having being played like a fiddle by Duela. He was projecting himself on her and was convinced she wanted to change. Obviously he was reckless dealing with her but I guess this start the chain of actions that will give him the villian status he has after Rebirth.
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Apr 14, 2016 19:22
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I'm more amused at this chinese Superman full name being Kenji Kong. I cant stop thinking of Donkey Kong
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Apr 15, 2016 15:51
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From Bleeding Coolquote:I understand that the DC Rebirth titles have a two year story arc that all books will be a part of, to varying degrees. A Two year arc!? Ugh.
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Apr 16, 2016 21:57
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Despite Johns' tenure on GL being what got me back into comics, I don't trust the current Johns to be able to handle a long term storyline. Through the whole N52 he kept introducing plot elements here and there that were never really followed upon (that shadowy guy at the end of his Superman run, the whole thing with Vibe) or took directions widely different to their original setup (Forever Evil, Pandora, Grail) I want to think this is mainly to his focus being elsewhere but is undeniable he has making things up as he goes, so the idea of having this huge storyline spanning the whole line will impact negatively on every book to some degree.
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Apr 17, 2016 19:14
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This solicits are loving with my mindquote:ACTION COMICS #959  The one who loved WW was SuperBro, not pre FP Superdad.Also quote:RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS: REBIRTH #1  So I guess Jason is working for Bruce after all
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Apr 18, 2016 22:49
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God, Darkseid War is such a steaming pile of poo poo.
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Apr 28, 2016 01:07
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Die Laughing posted:Did they not stick the landing? People seemed pretty keen on it. A lot of the buildup went nowhere. Mobius is one shoted out of nowhere, Grail has gone full Mary Sue, aside of Batman nothing has really been done with the league as new gods (hell Hal vanished from the plot), the Syndicate is just standing looking "evil", Lex is pretty underwhelming and Barda was put in a bus.
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Apr 28, 2016 02:47
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bobkatt013 posted:Read the Green Lantern Darkseid War issue to find out where Hal is. It's also one of the best Green Lantern comics ever written Well, he was supposed to help Bruce to reject the Mobius chair and at just one issue to go he's nowhere to be seen. And while a good story, the religious themes were a bit too into the nose for my taste and ignoring Hal's time as Parallax (despite fitting perfectly with the themes of the story) was a huge missed opportunity.
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Apr 28, 2016 03:47
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    Jason and Bruce eating burgers
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Apr 29, 2016 02:41
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-Superman without red boots looks weird as hell -WW is great and is obviously inspired by Gadot's costume -Batman is basically the same -Jessica is just an standard GL uniform. I wish they would ditch the eye symbol, is stupid looking. -Aquaman's differences are minimal as well.
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Apr 30, 2016 05:05
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Gaz-L posted:I get the impression she's a proper GL now. Probably with a normal ring. Indeed  Rhyno posted:I prefer this Superman design and I honestly thought it was what we were getting until the Rebirth book dropped. I'm still sad this one was just a concept and no an actual suit, is fantastic. Also, better looks at Supersons, Harley and Croc's new costumes  
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Apr 30, 2016 14:46
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sudo rm -rf posted:Did anyone else like N52 Superman's design? I loved it 
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Apr 30, 2016 19:28
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Aphrodite posted:You're right, only Hal should exist! I agree with this Teenage Fansub posted:The Justice League position of Green Lantern is the only one in Rebirth not filled by the traditional dude (unless you count Pre-Flashpoint Superman being a stranger, which I guess you should.) It's THE interesting thing about the League book on the surface. Is the opposite for me, the lack not only of Hal (who has been sidelined from the league after the opening arc in the N52) and pre Flashpoint Superman essentially ursurping SuperBro's place (I can't simply believe that Bruce will accept this new Superman just like that) has killed all my interest on the rebirth JL
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May 2, 2016 21:22
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Teenage Fansub posted:Have you read Lois and Clark? I've found it's pretty easy to get invested in old Clark, Lois and Jon. I've read Lois and Clark and that why I don't like pre FP in the JL. He is a pretty different character to Superbro but the way they've been marketing his addition to the JL makes it seem like there won't be any significative changes to the team dynamics. This is especially jarring with Batman, Pak did a stellar job building their friendship through all of Batman Superman (and even Taylor helped a bit), we've seen another facet from them in American Alien and all that build up is simply being tossed away. That is part o the same issue I have with the SuperSons concept although in less degree.
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May 2, 2016 21:39
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https://twitter.com/Robwilliams71/status/727179263837921280
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May 3, 2016 05:30
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Against what? Half the villains on Earth don't give a poo poo about guns and 90% of whatever gleep glop aliens they're fighting have tech that completely shits on guns? When Baz received his ring the first time, it was prone to malfunctioning due Hal and Sinestro having sent with contradictory requests. At the same time the third army was starting its attack on earth and at one point Baz got stuck in a dangerous situation and could only get out due picking up the gun. Since then he stuck with it because he didn't really trusted his ring.
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May 6, 2016 21:28
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I didn't find a better thread post this   From here That final page hit me harder than I expected, I'm going to miss these two working together
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May 9, 2016 06:23
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Teenage Fansub posted:Hey man, I rooting for Red Hood now just because pairing him up with Bizarro is my kinda crazy idea, but are you interested in any other comic coming up? Not really. I was hoping a change of direction in both Batman and GL but it didn't happen. I will still check around to see if there's a book that catches my eye of course. Welp http://www.multiversitycomics.com/previews/exclusive-red-hoodarsenal-12/ Roy And goddamit DC, was it too hard to release at least the double spread in a readable size?
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May 9, 2016 17:43
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Norns posted:DT, Tom King is killing it with his other comics. It's a safe bet his Batman is going to be real good. Travis343 posted:I'm pretty happy to see a team book with Bruce, Kate, Steph, Tim, and Cassandra on Detective Comics, and Grayson has me really looking forward to Tom King on Batman. What kind of direction were you hoping for? First I haven't been impressed by any of King's previous DC work and mostly a very different direction to the one Snyder gave the title these past few years. But going by interviews and the previews released so far, while not exactly the same, King is following Snyder's footsteps. Also, Detective sounds like Eternal Part 3 and both Eternals were utter garbage.
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May 9, 2016 18:54
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Superbro is a great character with a lot of unexplored potential and it's really boring that he's getting thrown out in favour of Superdad who's already had 25 years worth of stories especially with Dan Jurgens and Peter Tomasi writing, the former who's been really average at best and the latter who has been loving awful with the Superman character. Tomasi was easily the worst part of Truth and Last Days of Superman is decompressed with a really flimsy premise that's been dragged out to 8 issues and not nearly enough story going on to justify it. I agree with all of this. I can also add that Truth was already pretty underwhelming but is a slap in the face how it ended with Superbro proving he's a hero with or without his powers and in general in the highest point of his career since Morrison ended his run just for the next arc going "LOL Nope" and making him terminally ill.
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May 10, 2016 17:13
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CharlestheHammer posted:Super bro may have great potential but if you have over 100 issues of stories without hitting anything interesting then I don't think it's gonna happen. American Alien, Pak's Batman Superman, Morrison's Action Comics, Taylor's small Batman Superman Arc doesn't count?
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May 10, 2016 17:23
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CharlestheHammer posted:Nope. Nothing particularly interesting that made Superman stand out. Some of those stories were fine, but I don't think they required SuperBro. But that is because SuperBro wasn't really a new character but more like a reset. American Alien and Morrison's AC in particular doesn't work with Superdad's twenty-something years baggage. While Pak and Taylor build from the ground up the relationship between Bruce and Clark on their stories, offering a pretty different dynamic compared to that found in the pre FP stories.
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May 10, 2016 17:29
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Sya what you want about Lobdell, the man certainly has a sense of humor and a knack for irony. Not only he set up a vote to determinate if Roy survives, he went so far to include 01-800 and 52 references as well. Overall, issue 12 was great. Everything set up through the bulk of JD's arc neatly came together, is obvious that unlike RHATO's final arc Lobdell had more time (and knowledge) to set a satisfactory ending in advance. Of course there will be certain degree of comic book bullshit involved but that cames with the territory. The mention of Roy's knack for making impossible things possible lends me to believe there will be a soft reboot involved in the way Jason and Roy will go their separate ways, likely a situation where Roy/everyone's memories will be altered. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here. As long they don't retcon all of Jason and Roy friendship I'm satisfied. Over the five (nearly six) years N52 was a thing, I really grew to love their dynamic and I'm very sad this is their final team up in the foreseable future. That being said, I appreciate DC got a pretty decent artist to finish the series  See DC? Isnt too hard to make featureless helmet look good.  This page alluding to previous events was fantastic, specially because it has the original Outlaws.  This Jason is kind of creeping me out. In any case, I hope Lobdell can stick the landing in the next issue. Until then this will be a long, long month.
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May 11, 2016 19:59
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Alhazred posted:A man who guns down a mental patient have no right to criticize others for having "homicidal impulses". Norns posted:Lol wait. Did he end up killing Jokers Daughter? She's alive 
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