Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

The Biscuit posted:

Why would your grandma gaf what OS is on it?
At least you wont have to reinstall windows every weekend when its full of bloatware/malware.

put windows back on your grandmother's computer, rear end in a top hat. your nana loves you and doesn't want to have to be the one to tell you that your OS is a piece of poo poo.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Boinks
Nov 24, 2003



Just convert m4a to mp3 with sound converter or maybe not listen to Apples lovely music format?

God forbid someone knows a little bit about their operating system instead of being "it just works" oblivious. You're the same guys who own a car but can't change your oil.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
Hmm I drive a 1992 Acura Integra I assembled entirely out of piecemeal junkyard parts and I installed Linux on the Pioneer head unit

tomatoes and shit
Sep 17, 2015

Germstore posted:

put windows back on your grandmother's computer, rear end in a top hat. your nana loves you and doesn't want to have to be the one to tell you that your OS is a piece of poo poo.

I'm about to move grandma to ChromeOS

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
The reason people are talking poo poo about Linux using outdated info is because around the time of Windows 7 is when most of us said "gently caress this poo poo forever" trying to play with that complicated OS and meant it. We've been burnt a million times over by this talk of "Oh it's super easy to use now with x distribution or x desktop" and sure as hell aren't going to believe you now.

Boinks posted:

God forbid someone knows a little bit about their operating system instead of being "it just works" oblivious. You're the same guys who own a car but can't change your oil.

I changed my oil once. Spent an hour uncomfortably sweating under my car and then half a day looking for a place that would let me properly discard my old oil when I decided to just spend the extra ten bucks and have someone else do it for me.

CubanMissile fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Apr 3, 2016

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

SweetKarma posted:

I get sad when I see laptops pre-loaded with Ubuntu at Walmart. You just know some poor grandma is going to buy that laptop expecting Windows.

Yeah granny'll be super passed when she has to install wine to play counter strike or whatever

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

CubanMissile posted:

The reason people are talking poo poo about Linux using outdated info is because around the time of Windows 7 is when most of us said "gently caress this poo poo forever" trying to play with that complicated OS and meant it. We've been burnt a million times over by this talk of "Oh it's super easy to use now with x distribution or x desktop" and sure as hell aren't going to believe you now.


I changed my oil once. Spent an hour uncomfortably sweating under my car and then half a day looking for a place that would let me properly discard my old oil when I decided to just spend the extra ten bucks and have someone else do it for me.

Is it too late to reconsider eugenics?

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
My gran has been using windows since 3.1 so if she bought a laptop with ubuntu on it I'm pretty sure she'd be like, 'what's this happy horse poo poo?"

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



linux has never been "it just works" its "if you arent an idiot you can fix it yourself"

if you've ever needed a smart friend/family member to fix your computer you should just get a mac

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Hector Beerlioz posted:

I use a mac. They just work.

DEAD MAN'S SHOE
Nov 23, 2003

We will become evil and the stars will come alive
learning shell stuff is one of the best things i ever did and means i don't go insane spending my life doing repetitive poo poo on a gui

(i will admit to wasting a hell of a lot of time learning advanced bash scripting before finding that python kicks its rear end in every way)

i am not sure how there are programmers that can't do stuff in shell, but they exist

Woden
May 6, 2006

CubanMissile posted:

The reason people are talking poo poo about Linux using outdated info is because around the time of Windows 7 is when most of us said "gently caress this poo poo forever" trying to play with that complicated OS and meant it. We've been burnt a million times over by this talk of "Oh it's super easy to use now with x distribution or x desktop" and sure as hell aren't going to believe you now.

I tapped out at Vista, Ubuntu was easier to install than XP and worked better than Vista so I've been running it ever since. :shrug:

CubanMissile posted:

I changed my oil once. Spent an hour uncomfortably sweating under my car and then half a day looking for a place that would let me properly discard my old oil when I decided to just spend the extra ten bucks and have someone else do it for me.

I just update stuff when it tells me to and everything has been gravy, apparently I have to upgrade from 12.04 to some new version this year though. Probably should just install from scratch though yeah?

TLG James
Jun 5, 2000

Questing ain't easy

CubanMissile posted:


I changed my oil once. Spent an hour uncomfortably sweating under my car and then half a day looking for a place that would let me properly discard my old oil when I decided to just spend the extra ten bucks and have someone else do it for me.

Literally every single autozone, aap takes used oil.

mst4k
Apr 18, 2003

budlitemolaram

DEAD MAN'S SHOE posted:

i am not sure how there are programmers that can't do stuff in shell, but they exist

did you know you need to use a 64bit browser to view a website the runs on a 64bit server?

DEAD MAN'S SHOE
Nov 23, 2003

We will become evil and the stars will come alive

karma_coma posted:

did you know you need to use a 64bit browser to view a website the runs on a 64bit server?

...this explains so much

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
i don;t want to use linux because i saw a video of that strange hairy man richard stallaman eating something from his toes and i'd probably imagine that every time i was using that particular os

I am not a book
Mar 9, 2013
Hello I am a Windows System Administrator I need to download an SSH client I know I will use an unencrypted HTTP connection to download the SSH client which I will then repeatedly type my password(Which is the same as my Domain Admin Credentials) into No don't worry It's cool I use Trend Micro!!!

I am not a book
Mar 9, 2013
Hello I am a Windows System Administrator I need to download a Password Storage Program I know I will use an unencrypted HTTP connection to download the Password Storage Program which I will then store all of my Admin Credentials in so that I don't have to stop thinking about sandwiches for even a second No don't worry It's cool I use Symantec!!!

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


I am not a book posted:

Hello I am a Windows System Administrator I need to download an SSH client I know I will use an unencrypted HTTP connection to download the SSH client which I will then repeatedly type my password(Which is the same as my Domain Admin Credentials) into No don't worry It's cool I use Trend Micro!!!

Hello my boss.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Boinks posted:

Just convert m4a to mp3 with sound converter or maybe not listen to Apples lovely music format?

God forbid someone knows a little bit about their operating system instead of being "it just works" oblivious. You're the same guys who own a car but can't change your oil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyTpKGdSlYE&t=30s

german porn enthusiast
Dec 29, 2015

by exmarx
I installed ubuntu on my mom's laptop and she said "it's just like a mac! it's great!"

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald
I'm now learning bash because of the Windows thing ama

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

CubanMissile posted:




I changed my oil once. Spent an hour uncomfortably sweating under my car and then half a day looking for a place that would let me properly discard my old oil when I decided to just spend the extra ten bucks and have someone else do it for me.

You probably shouldn't have posted this lol

FallenGod
May 23, 2002

Unite, Afro Warriors!

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

You probably shouldn't have posted this lol

Alternatively, he might have a thing called a "job" that pays him more money in an hour than he saves from playing around under his car.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

metalloid posted:

I installed ubuntu on my mom's laptop and she said "it's just like a mac! it's great!"

That purple desktop gets all women to drop their panties!

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009



gently caress iseries

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

FallenGod posted:

Alternatively, he might have a thing called a "job" that pays him more money in an hour than he saves from playing around under his car.

its ok to not want to, its another thing to express in detail one's ineptitude and it kind of shines light on the first half of the complaint

but yes if you cant figure out how to unscrew a bolt in one hour then perhaps you shouldn't be doing it

nosl
Jan 17, 2015

CHIM, bitch!

GRILLARY CLINTON posted:

i [...] use gentoo because im a gay idiot

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Hector Beerlioz posted:

Your husband has the patience and tolerance of a saint

his ex wife oth

a busted-up mailbox
Dec 14, 2012

Boinks posted:

Just convert m4a to mp3 with sound converter or maybe not listen to Apples lovely music format?

God forbid someone knows a little bit about their operating system instead of being "it just works" oblivious. You're the same guys who own a car but can't change your oil.

I have no problem tinkering with an OS to wring the most I can out of it. What I have a problem with is having to tinker with an OS to achieve the bare acceptable minimum of functionality, like being able to listen to music encoded in a popular format without having to perform a lossy -> lossy codec transcode. Sure, it's trivial to do a batch conversion with a recursive script and ffmpeg, but I shouldn't have to.

It would also be nice to do simple things like be able to play games at a passable framerate and be able to reliably suspend my computer at the same time, or access files with CJK filenames on HFS file systems for when I'm copying over my backed-up data. The latter issue was marked as a bug in hfsplus 6 years ago and will probably be fixed on the same year that Linux becomes ready for the desktop.

a busted-up mailbox fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Apr 3, 2016

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

maybe don't use hosed up garbage filesystems

Bad Titty Puker
Nov 3, 2007
Soiled Meat
Dunno about other distributions but for Kubuntu, and maybe for Ubuntu, all I had to do was search for "things to do after installing [my distro].[my version]" and read about what packages to install to get all the codecs for everything. This was very easy to do. If you're frustrated and having to gently caress with the computer, stop. There are plenty of excellent articles and forums posts that will save you a lot of headaches.

I use foobar2000 under WINE (both of which were very easy to install from packages) and it works great. But the Linux media players, which aren't bad, play .m4a files, for example, as well.

Edit: foob, like all Windows software that can run under WINE, isn't installed from packages, but from running the foob installation .exe under the Wine Windows Program Loader. The reason why the Linux players can play all the formats is because of the installed codecs, which for Ubuntu/Kubuntu, were collected in a single additional package.

Bad Titty Puker fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Apr 4, 2016

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

CubanMissile posted:

The reason people are talking poo poo about Linux using outdated info is because around the time of Windows 7 is when most of us said "gently caress this poo poo forever" trying to play with that complicated OS and meant it. We've been burnt a million times over by this talk of "Oh it's super easy to use now with x distribution or x desktop" and sure as hell aren't going to believe you now.

On again, off again linux dev here. Linux isnt the best at everything, theres things that other proprietary OS's do way better. You dont know what any of these things are. The average user who just wants to go online and monitor their facetoobs would do fine on linux if they were used to it. Also linux kind of suffers from this problem where it wants to appeal to the masses, but doesnt want to alienate its devs and power users so its split up into a lot of different distros with inconsistent quality and usability.

CubanMissile posted:

I changed my oil once. Spent an hour uncomfortably sweating under my car and then half a day looking for a place that would let me properly discard my old oil when I decided to just spend the extra ten bucks and have someone else do it for me.

its cool scro

My Rhythmic Crotch
Jan 13, 2011

On the one hand I think it's cool and remarkable that the linux community makes desktop distros but I kinda wish they didn't because they are really, really bad at it. Part of it is the fault of people like Ubuntu who made a bunch of dumb stuff. Part of it is the driver quality is always going to lag far behind windows because, by and large, hardware vendors don't care about linux. I know that has changed a little as I think some graphics drivers are slightly better now, but meh. You're not going to find a driver for your special snowflake hardware doodad that was made by a small company.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
Who even does *just* an oil change anymore? Poors and people who want to wear out their car early by not doing full maintenance, that's who

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

FallenGod posted:

Alternatively, he might have a thing called a "job" that pays him more money in an hour than he saves from playing around under his car.

I also use a thing called exaggeration, but shhh don't tell anyone.

dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
c:/> dos run lol

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

Michaellaneous posted:

*has a mac*

*installs arch in Parallels Desktop*

*uses terminal*

*installs http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/*

im a linux haxxor guys

cathode was a pro click man

i bought the ios version of that app

ty

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

TLG James posted:

Literally every single autozone, aap takes used oil.

Call em first tho, sometimes the drum is full

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer
Just pout the used oil out on the weeds in your yard for a cheap and easy week killing solution

  • Locked thread