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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Auspol April - Long Live the Glorious State of North Queensland
 
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May 11, 2007

Maxine13
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Birdstrike posted:

I've spent pretty much all day trying to get my head around how this state tax proposal would work and I can't make it work.

No matter how I carve it up, so long as Turnbull's plan is for the ATO to collect everything so as to reduce compliance costs, I can't see it being constitutional for a federal body to collect state taxes.
Either the states can't authorise it (the autocthonous expedient invests state with federal, not vice versa), or there could be a preference between states which the ATO couldn't be shanghaied into enforcing.

The alternative is for each state to pass assessing acts with collection by their state revenue authorities, but even if the acts are identical to what exists now I can't see people swallowing two separate returns each year given the trouble they have with filling in one.

A page late, but it's probably constitutional because it used to be that way, and was abandoned because it was a Stupid Idea and we used to be smarter.

The Treasury posted:

Between 1915 and 1942, income taxes were levied at both the state and federal level, leading to complexity and inequitable taxation of income across states. The Second World War saw fundamental changes to Australia’s taxation system. In 1942, income taxation was consolidated by the federal government to increase revenue as a war-time measure. As a result, the states’ tax base was reduced (see Chart 1), replaced by federal government grants. The states’ tax base was supplemented in 1971, when the then federal government ceded control of payroll taxes to the states

from http://archive.treasury.gov.au/documents/1156/HTML/docshell.asp?URL=01_Brief_History.asp

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In other news, Bob Ellis has died

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I don't think this has been mentioned before, but Liberal party backbencher does what appears at first glance to be a not-terrible thing? I suspect actually talking to peoplefascist symphatizers might be one of the more effective means of countering them (noting the old saw about not being able to reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves into).

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