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lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

LibertyCat posted:


Let's be blunt; when the Europeans arrived, they were not greeted by a collection of civilized nations. Australia was inhabited by illiterate stone-age tribes that could never have defended their homeland from any settlement by other groups.



Are you really using technology and literacy as an argument?

If England had a stack of tanks, and they managed to destroy India's lone spearman, is that not an invasion?

Aren't there tribes of uncontactable people all around the world (New Guinea, Bolivia, Brazil for example) that specifically aren't being integrated (invaded?) for heritage reasons? Would kicking them out so their forests can be cut down not be construed as some sort of invasion? Why would the term invasion only be applicable to those that understand the relatively modern idea of a sovereign state? I bet the dudes firing arrows at a chopper are more then happy to deny they are part of Brazilian Sovereignity, and probably have the right to feel they have been invaded.

Also you sound racist.

lilbeefer fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Mar 31, 2016

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lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Anidav posted:

Little did the British know that by doing this they created Australia. Go back in time and show Captain Cook this thread, problem solved.
I remember a bunch of lovely shows on the History Channel saying that the British were a mere few days away from being beaten by the Dutch. Speaking dutch would be pretty rad.

Wanna read an alt history on this.


Imagine being able to ride your pushie around without being told to get off the loving road by a bloke listening to AJ talkback.

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

*before starting this thread

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

open24hours posted:

The main reason for the world wars was that the Germans and the Italians were butthurt about their weak colonial game.

Where were Sweden then

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

freebooter posted:

but it just really bugs me when people go too far in the opposite direction and start idealising tribalist societies. Much like how it shits me when people in this thread seem to literally believe Australia is an awful, monstrous society when - relatively speaking - it's actually one of the fairest and most tolerant places in human history.

Just because Australia is one of the less bad countries doesnt mean it isn't an evil monstrous society and we shouldn't complain about it.

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Pretty sure the whole horrible discussion started because a uni wanted to use the word invaded instradbof colonised. Uni was right, no matter the premise.

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lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Popcorning the poo poo out of 4 corners right now. Seriously how can you not own hundreds of multi story carparks, charge 10 bucks + an hour with minimal upkeep and still need to hide your money away? Won't someone think about the poor guillotine-smiths who have been locked out of business for centuries?

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