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Oh the Fabian Society has remembered it's meant to give a poo poo about the poor. Guess they're having a collective stroke.
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http://www.citymetric.com/politics/british-government-invest-billions-solving-housing-crisis-1966 HOUSING 1 hour ago British government “to invest billions” in solving the housing crisis By Jonn Elledge So, this is unexpected: the British government just announced plans to spend billions of public money on the largest British housebuilding problem since the 1930s. Apparently, according to George Osborne, there must be “no barrier” to ending the housing crisis within 10 years. Huh. The plan will see involve a radical package of measures, intended to double the rate at which Britain is building houses. These include further planning reform; changes to land use restrictions such as the green belt, in order to free up more land for development; and stronger compulsory purchase rules. On top of that, ministers are planning a major state building programme. In a press release published on the communities department website over night, housing minister Brandon Lewis was quoted as saying that, “if the house building industry will not step up to the plate, then the government must.” The same release quoted Osborne as follows: “For too long, politicians of all parties have prioritised the needs of elderly homeowners over those of their children. But there must be no barrier – financial or political – to building the homes Britain needs.” The proposals are understood to have been triggered by concern within the Conservative party that high housing costs were a drain on the economy, and that falling home ownership rate would imperil the party's future electoral prospects. They were originally intended to be included in last month's Budget, but were delayed. The plan is intended to end the housing crisis within 10 years. In order to cover the transition, tighter regulation of landlords is expected to look obviously this is total bullshit, we're just making it up. The government isn't going to do any of this stuff. Check the date. LOL! Sorry. But imagine if it were true, eh? Imagine if the government were actually serious about fixing this mess – about using its unexpected majority, and the current weakness of the Labour party, to push through policies that'll benefit today's young people and boost the economy? Even if it costs them a few council seats in the shires. Even if it imperiled someone’s leadership ambitions. Imagine that eh? Jesus sodding christ, I'm depressed.
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Could have had me up until "major state building programme". I can believe that Osborne would relax planning regs, use eminent domain, and 'invest' millions in private housebuilding as long as it stayed there. Jumped the shark at “For too long, politicians of all parties have prioritised the needs of elderly homeowners over those of their children." tho.
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Apr 1, 2016 11:18
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I'm currently reading the prospectus of the London Ratepayers' Defence League, which was formed in the late 19th century to "oppose reckless and excessive expenditure, and to pursue a policy of economy in the administration off public funds" which notes that "the ever-increasing burden of rates is likely to be diminished only be a determined and united resistance on the part of prominent ratepayers to the present course of extravagance indulged in by the London County Council and the London School Board in particular." The list of members of the Central Council of the League reads like a Who's Who of Tory Dukes and Earls - people rich enough to have to pay tax to fund schools that they'd never send their own kids to in a million years and they're really  about it.
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Apr 1, 2016 12:59
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A Labour thing that isn't a massive data collection exercise? Someone's getting fired.
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Tin Tower, stop trying to make the Liberal Democrats happen. It's not going to happen.
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TinTower posted:A Labour thing that isn't a massive data collection exercise? Someone's getting fired. You missed the share to Facebook button at the end
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Igiari posted:Tin Tower, stop trying to make the Liberal Democrats happen. It's not going to happen. They already happened and now they're loving dead lol.
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Cerv posted:You missed the share to Facebook button at the end It was obvious where it was going straight away but it was still pretty good.
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Tesseraction posted:They already happened and now they're loving dead lol. All apparently remaining Lib Dems are nothing more than spooky ghosts haunting the grim edifice of British politics.
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big scary monsters posted:All apparently remaining Lib Dems are nothing more than spooky ghosts haunting the grim edifice of British politics. Nah it's like how when a human being dies their muscles relax and so their bowels empty poo poo all over the floor. The remaining Lib Dem MPs are basically the political party version of that.
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Apr 1, 2016 15:43
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Cerv posted:http://www.citymetric.com/politics/british-government-invest-billions-solving-housing-crisis-1966 Yes. Because the Tories will have been ousted within five years, or so they expect, so ending the crisis within ten years is a nice timetable for the housing bubble to burst under a Labour government. That, or Labour will have to cancel the benevolent Tory plans to build all the new houses we need, and the housing crisis will thus be their fault.
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Tesseraction posted:Nah it's like how when a human being dies their muscles relax and so their bowels empty poo poo all over the floor. It is said that if a samurai is mortally wounded in battle, he should have the strength to make one more action after death. Use it to go "er, moderate radicals, er, mistakes were made, er, Europe is, it's..." - The Orange Hagakure
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The Lib Dems having parliamentary importance was Charles Kennedy's last horcrux
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Guavanaut posted:Is the joke that we as a people still care about the political opinions of royalty?
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In a hilariously 'gently caress you' move that I honestly thought was an April fool for a while, China is going to levy a 46% tarriff on UK-made steel. As part of anti-dumping measures.
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jabby posted:In a hilariously 'gently caress you' move that I honestly thought was an April fool for a while, China is going to levy a 46% tarriff on UK-made steel. I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.
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I just noticed the thread tag, how long has that been a thread tag?
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I like how the article says it came at a bad time. Are the words "economic warfare" taboo in the media? Like having to call mercenaries PMC's? This is them attempting a coup de grace. This is where a working government would step in and introduce protectionist measures. But as we know from previous Chinese visits Gideon is in China's pocket. Maybe they came up with this plan together.
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jabby posted:In a hilariously 'gently caress you' move that I honestly thought was an April fool for a while, China is going to levy a 46% tarriff on UK-made steel. Hahahaha holy 
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OwlFancier posted:I just noticed the thread tag, how long has that been a thread tag?
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Regarde Aduck posted:I like how the article says it came at a bad time. Are the words "economic warfare" taboo in the media? Like having to call mercenaries PMC's? Maybe Tata got wind of this early and that's why they shut up shop.
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jabby posted:In a hilariously 'gently caress you' move that I honestly thought was an April fool for a while, China is going to levy a 46% tarriff on UK-made steel. gently caress me. That just makes Osborne's bending over so much more pointless. Go for the jugular Corbyn! "Osborne blocked EU-led tariffs to stop Chinese dumping of steel - now China taxes OUR steel." Prince John fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Prince John posted:gently caress me. That just makes Osborne's bending over so much more pointless. Go for the jugular Corbyn! I think you'll find we're only in this mess due to the previous Labour government.
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Here's the real fun for you: it's cheaper to nationalise the Port Talbot plant and run it at a loss than it would be to mothball it or close it entirely.
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Does that comparison include an estimate of the cost of retraining people to run the place when it's eventually de-mothballed?
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I'm not even going to bother linking the story, but my facebook is currently exploding with another constructed outrage about student politics bullshit. Is there a good way to combat this or should I just scream into a pillow at how there's a bunch of literal lawyers complaining that someone's right free speech was violated by people not attending a comedy gig?
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Apr 1, 2016 17:57
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Literal lawyers or literal law students. I mean actually lawyers doesn't say much because they'll argue anything for money.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean actually lawyers doesn't say much because they'll argue anything for money. My mistake, less than a month away from obtaining their degree. Although one of them also argued that Kesha should remain with her producer because recording contracts ARE THE BASIS OF A FUNCTIONING SOCIETY  EDIT: Facebook also told me there's a new Oi Polloi album out on May day, so it's not all bad. Praseodymi fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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jabby posted:In a hilariously 'gently caress you' move that I honestly thought was an April fool for a while, China is going to levy a 46% tarriff on UK-made steel. This is beautiful timing. They must hold Osborne's attempts to cosy up with such contempt.
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Jedit posted:Here's the real fun for you: it's cheaper to nationalise the Port Talbot plant and run it at a loss than it would be to mothball it or close it entirely. Do you happen to have a link with some more detail on this comparison? The thing that leaps to mind for me is that it depends how long the loss-making period lasts and whether that comparison includes the extra £100m investment required by the Union-backed turnaround.
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I know that the blast furnace once taken offline is basically hosed, so you would need to spend a fortune to either demolish or rebuild it after you stop fuelling it. Once it cools it's hosed. I imagine some of the rest of the plant works the same way. Mothballing it is inherently destructive and then you have to pay the costs of either reactivating or clearing the site. If it's anything like the Redcar plant, that's a shitload of demolition or rebuilding to do. £100m is probably well less than the cost of demolishing the site or reactivating it after having been shut down for a while.
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Prince John posted:Do you happen to have a link with some more detail on this comparison? Port talbot also has a 2 bil unfunded pension liability
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Praseodymi posted:I'm not even going to bother linking the story, but my facebook is currently exploding with another constructed outrage about student politics bullshit. Is there a good way to combat this or should I just scream into a pillow at how there's a bunch of literal lawyers complaining that someone's right free speech was violated by people not attending a comedy gig? The thing is that the comedian in question is just not that funny. 
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Who's the comedian? What's the issue? Or is this all in code for a reason?
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Osborne effectively being told to get hosed by a state that he seems to have dedicated himself to fellating at any opportunity is great.
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Glokta posted:Who's the comedian? What's the issue? Or is this all in code for a reason? who fuckin cares its student politics
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