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Lord of the Llamas posted:I think you'll find we're only in this mess due to the previous Labour government. If it takes more than this weekend for that soundbite to come up I'll be legitimately surprised.
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jabby posted:Hopefully you are either a) in good health or b) rich if you want to live much longer than that. If anyone hasn't contacted their MP about this, do it, do it now. Feel free to scalp the text from my blog, which, the first line excepted, it a Junior Doctor Approved™ rant about how lovely the contract is. https://evidencebasedactivism.wordpress.com/2016/01/04/junior-doctors-strike/ (Also feel free to read the rest of the blog if you are so inclined, I've been meaning to post about it for a while)
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starting to regret that i declined private healthcare from work on ethical grounds.
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Oberleutnant posted:on ethical grounds. Yeah, that fairtrade coffee can gently caress a man up.
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Praseodymi posted:Is there a good way to combat this 
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Malcolm XML posted:Port talbot also has a 2 bil unfunded pension liability So many big companies have ridiculous pension deficits. My parents generation had university grants, social housing, and ridiculous pension promises. The next generation are being forced to mortgage their lives to get a degree and work for companies that are pouring money into the pensions of people who voted for the government that's loving them over because all the good social stuff their parents/grandparents got are now "unaffordable luxuries".
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Thanks Ants posted:Osborne effectively being told to get hosed by a state that he seems to have dedicated himself to fellating at any opportunity is great. It's not even personal, it's part of a global strategy to kill all non-Chinese steel first. Literally nothing the Tories have tried to do internationally has worked and everything they've done domestically has been awful. There's not even a Falklands moment to cause a legacy, they're going to be the worst government we've had, possibly ever.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:So many big companies have ridiculous pension deficits. My parents generation had university grants, social housing, and ridiculous pension promises. The next generation are being forced to mortgage their lives to get a degree and work for companies that are pouring money into the pensions of people who voted for the government that's loving them over because all the good social stuff their parents/grandparents got are now "unaffordable luxuries".
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I think you'll find we're only in this mess due to the previous Labour government. So what's the state of the Tory government concerning Iain (and) Duncan Smith's dramatic resignation? I only heard Cameron making GBS threads himself for two days before the papers moved onto other stories. Osborne getting screwed and rejected is hilarious to me though, it's really sad he's asking for £4.4 billion from all these "gently caress the poor" cuts when he already spent £4.8 billion giving buddies in his rich little fauntleroys' club all the best tax breaks they could possibly get.
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We have never had a resignation, IDS was never a minister. Also we have always been at war with eastasia. It's depressing how long the government has avoided criticism by just ignoring it.
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namesake posted:There's not even a Falklands moment to cause a legacy, they're going to be the worst government we've had, possibly ever. Top 10 maybe.
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LemonDrizzle posted:To be fair, the old final salary schemes were never affordable; people just deluded themselves for a few decades until reality asserted itself. Yep and we can't can't downgrade those pensions because reasons we just have to gently caress over everyone else instead.
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Apr 1, 2016 21:14
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Guavanaut posted:I think ever is a bit much. There were the ones that said 'hey, let's see if the market will work things out' when potato blight hit Ireland and the ones that were 90% made up of hereditary aristocrats who literally owned slaves rather than just technically and there was whole mess with the Rump Parliament. Not sure if the Famine was completely down to free market ideologues. I'm sure some of those responsible saw it as a way to implement genocide of poor, Irish Catholics.
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Oh I'm sure they would have implemented different tactics if it was happening to people they cared about, but the paperwork of the time definitely promoted a laissez-faire economic approach as the best resolution to the crisis with some unfortunate human cost can't make an egg without eating a few omelettes &c. &c.
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Marenghi posted:Not sure if the Famine was completely down to free market ideologues. I'm sure some of those responsible saw it as a way to implement genocide of poor, Irish Catholics. I'm sure JFairfax is furiously typing away at some sort of response to try and justify such a thing
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Marenghi posted:Not sure if the Famine was completely down to free market ideologues. I'm sure some of those responsible saw it as a way to implement genocide of poor, Irish Catholics. Ober will probably find some letter about hoarding potatoes to make booze with the way its going
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Ah yes, Ireland, reknowned for its fine Vodka.
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Jose posted:Ober will probably find some letter about hoarding potatoes to make booze with the way its going
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Oberleutnant posted:I've never seen anything like that, but I know one member of the nobility recommend (in 1845, first year of the famine in Ireland) that the starving poor mix curry powder with water, which will warm them up and allow them to sleep happily on an empty stomach. 
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Ireland wasn't caused by any particular ideology, but it was certainly exacerbated by it. Just had some drunk teens outside TJs try and start with me, but I've never seen someone go from thinking he's hard to being at a complete loss so fast as when this kid threw several insults at me, and was met with my calm gaze, total agreement, and then me leaning forward and asking "What are you going to do about any of that?" After a few minutes when my food was ready he was making to follow me home but I blanked him and then heard his mate pleading with him not to. So anyway I hate chavs now.
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OwlFancier posted:We have never had a resignation, IDS was never a minister. Also we have always been at war with eastasia. I think part of it is that nobody wants to give IDS the compliment of assuming he resigned out of moral principle, and nobody's 100% sure why he did actually resign, so he's a difficult weapon to use against the government.
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Librarians of the world, unite!quote:Campaigners who have been occupying a library for more than 24 hours say security outside has been tightened.
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Prince John posted:Librarians of the world, unite! I know the answer is "Because escalation and violence is the response to everything" but seriously, what was the person who escalated this thinking? It's a bloody library, there's kids there. There's no way you get good optics out of a police presence of any scale above 'two bobbies who join the librarians for tea and biccies'.
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Cheer up: I doubt very much they're going to last another year. And I expect Cameron'll be gone even sooner, within weeks of the referendum result, whichever way it goes.
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Mister Adequate posted:I know the answer is "Because escalation and violence is the response to everything" but seriously, what was the person who escalated this thinking? It's a bloody library, there's kids there. There's no way you get good optics out of a police presence of any scale above 'two bobbies who join the librarians for tea and biccies'. DOING SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN DOING NOTHING. TOUGH DECISIONS ETC. It's strange how the government seems to try the same poo poo solutions to every problem. There was an Adam Curtis (?) documentary which drew parallels between our handling of the global financial crisis and Afghanistan, ie. rather than attempt to solve the systemic corruption that led to the problem, try to prop it up and hope it fixes itself.
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Mister Adequate posted:Ireland wasn't caused by any particular ideology, but it was certainly exacerbated by it. Source your quotes edit: has anyone seen the retraction in the sun about that headline they had all the complaints about? Jose fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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OwlFancier posted:Ah yes, Ireland, reknowned for its fine Vodka. Mister Adequate posted:Just had some drunk teens outside TJs try and start with me, but I've never seen someone go from thinking he's hard to being at a complete loss so fast as when this kid threw several insults at me, and was met with my calm gaze, total agreement, and then me leaning forward and asking "What are you going to do about any of that?" After a few minutes when my food was ready he was making to follow me home but I blanked him and then heard his mate pleading with him not to.  (or was it one of the smaller ones?)
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Praseodymi posted:DOING SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN DOING NOTHING. TOUGH DECISIONS ETC. This is a government that will cure your broken ankle by amputating it and then prescribing homeopathic pills to fight the resulting infection.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:This is a government that will cure your broken ankle by amputating it and then selling it back to you.
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If you want to look at the Famine in any meaningful way you have to look at the plantations of Ireland and the Penal Laws. To look at the response entirely as a political system is missing most of the reason why it hit so hard.
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Guavanaut posted:Friday night High Street Nah smaller one out on Uppingham Road. Disgraceful how parents today let their kids just run around outside, whatever happened to good old fashioned telly or video games?
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I once had a kid tell me his dad was bob marley and that he was assasinated by the government.
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OwlFancier posted:I once had a kid tell me his dad was bob marley and that he was assasinated by the government. Stay safe ghost rasta kid
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Wait sorry I should be clear, that bob marley was assasinated by the government, not the kid.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Cheer up: I doubt very much they're going to last another year. How do you think this is going to happen, when it would require Tory MPs to vote to repeal the fixed terms act in the sure knowledge that it will oust their own party?
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Jedit posted:How do you think this is going to happen, when it would require Tory MPs to vote to repeal the fixed terms act in the sure knowledge that it will oust their own party? Presumably he thinks there will be a large enough rebellion for a no confidence vote or for a supply bill to fail.
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Oberleutnant posted:starting to regret that i declined private healthcare from work on ethical grounds. It's a tricky one and we know what the optimal solution to this dilemma would be, but of the options that are on the table I think it's a personally acceptable stance. I think under the current level of cuts, the short-term relief of one less patient might outweigh the long-term damage of eroding the fabric of universal healthcare. I talked this rationale through with someone in real life once and they claimed that the same logic could be used to justify sending your kids to private school, which is bollocks for a million social and cultural reasons.
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I think I get medical insurance at the end of my probationary period and though private healthcare is anathema to me (both my parents work for the nhs) the reducing strain on the nhs argument does seem to carry weight esp seeing as the local hospital trust is in super deep financial poo poo even by 2016 nhs standards There's another part of me that thinks that's just trying to rationalise taking advantage of a p ridiculous perk though. My primary plan is still to never ever get ill
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