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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Welcome to the April thread. You all know what goes on here by now. This is the thread where we talk about what foods we like or are currently eating, what is the best biscuit, what crisps are preferred, and other culinary delights. Occasionally politics creeps its ugly head in too, but such things are rather crass for the dinner table, so let's try to keep that to a minimum.

UK Meal Talk


Suitable Topics of Conversation
• Entertaining a party.
• Making and keeping a list.
• Conservative selection of starters and canapes.
• Place setting.
• Correct party dress code.
• The best way to cut sandwiches.
• Light lunches for boating.
• The correct name for a bread roll.
• Which condiments will be banned under the Psychoactive Substances Act.
• Swiss eggs.
• The expropriation of the assets of the bourgeoise for the benefit of worker-led industryProper cutlery etiquette.
• :chef::monocle::phoneline:



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Paedogeddon/Press Corruption Thread

Battered Promises
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Continental Wankfest
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Trainchat Thread

McMurtry's Quarter Scrounger
Political Cartoons Thread

Illinois Roast Chicken
#ukgoons on synIRC. It's mostly active during Question Time, but there's always some people around (thanks crispix).

Enjoy your meal everyone!

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Thanks :) I was trying to quote it in as a doublepost.

It seems pretty :catstare: but is it actually better or worse than the previous proposed contract? (Not that both weren't sacks of poo poo)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Red is normally preferred with red meat, but since the closest that roast beef monster munch has come to a cow is that the packaging designer saw one once, I think Irn Bru.

What's even the point of having an Equality Assessment if it's just going to be "yeah this will gently caress over single mothers but yolo" and then moving on?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Hydrazine and hydrogen peroxide were also famously used as the bipropellant rocket fuel-oxidizer mix in the Messerschmitt Me 163b Komet WWII interceptor. Famous because they were hypergolic, they'd explode from simple contact inside or outside of the rocket chamber, to the extent that the two fueling teams would wear different colored protective suits to avoid contact.

I'm not sure what measures were taken by the silo crews to make that safer than kerosene and liquid oxygen, but that mixture has always red flagged to me as a 'step away' sign.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Oberleutnant posted:

I don't like monster munch because you only get about 7 of them in a bag these days. Thanks.
Try Aldi monster claws. You get more in a bag but otoh they taste a bit more like paper pulp.


:razz:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Junior G-man posted:

The Guardian's April Fool's article is well worth it:
Is the joke that we as a people still care about the political opinions of royalty?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Could have had me up until "major state building programme". I can believe that Osborne would relax planning regs, use eminent domain, and 'invest' millions in private housebuilding as long as it stayed there.

Jumped the shark at “For too long, politicians of all parties have prioritised the needs of elderly homeowners over those of their children." tho.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I just noticed the thread tag, how long has that been a thread tag?
Since September, when the world found out that David Cameron hosed a dead pig.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

namesake posted:

There's not even a Falklands moment to cause a legacy, they're going to be the worst government we've had, possibly ever.
I think ever is a bit much. There were the ones that said 'hey, let's see if the market will work things out' when potato blight hit Ireland and the ones that were 90% made up of hereditary aristocrats who literally owned slaves rather than just technically and there was whole mess with the Rump Parliament.

Top 10 maybe.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Oh I'm sure they would have implemented different tactics if it was happening to people they cared about, but the paperwork of the time definitely promoted a laissez-faire economic approach as the best resolution to the crisis with some unfortunate human cost can't make an egg without eating a few omelettes &c. &c.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Ah yes, Ireland, reknowned for its fine Vodka.
You can make poitin out of potatoes and I will attempt to fight anyone who says otherwise before falling over my own feet and slumping haphazardly down the wall.

Mister Adequate posted:

Just had some drunk teens outside TJs try and start with me, but I've never seen someone go from thinking he's hard to being at a complete loss so fast as when this kid threw several insults at me, and was met with my calm gaze, total agreement, and then me leaning forward and asking "What are you going to do about any of that?" After a few minutes when my food was ready he was making to follow me home but I blanked him and then heard his mate pleading with him not to.
Friday night High Street :toot: (or was it one of the smaller ones?)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
UKIP will be lumbered with a bad leader due to being a mishmash of people from all over the political spectrum whose only uniting features are being anti-establishment, then chasing a good part of the left half away by making public statements that the gays cause flooding.

Allowing online voting on policies won't make their leader any worse. It will probably make them the party that wants to bring back hanging and allow shops to put up 'no coloureds' signs again though. Even though Farage is anti death penalty he has said that he'd bow to democratic pressure from his membership on it if they said so.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Isn't that better than the opposite case, where Google was accused of keeping people in a filter bubble based on their demographic?

I remember them doing a test where people from one demographic searching for abortion were shown clinics in their area and people from another were shown Catholic Encyclopedia articles on the sanctity of life.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
otoh the Remain logo is like a shitter version of the ITN logo with the T removed, and looks more like a font for a chip shop sign at some godforsaken seaside town.

Of course it looks a lot better as part of it's full logo, BRITAIN STRONGER IN EUROPE, where it just looks like boilerplate pseudo-fascism. I can only imagine what was going on in that meeting.

"Hey, should we address some of the key good things about the EU? How about 'Britain Fairer In Europe'?"
"Why don't we look at the human rights angle? Put 'right' in there or something. 'Remain: It's the Right Way'"
"It's nearly lunch, why don't we just reuse the last one? 'Europe: Better Together'"
*murmurs of agreement begin around the table, but are interrupted by Osborne railing a massive line of coke off a place card and slamming both fists on the table*
"BRITANE STRONG! BRITANE SMASH!"
"Yeah, gently caress it, let's go with that."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

thespaceinvader posted:

Which is why, despite it probably being overall less effective, I'm glad Labour has its own in campaign.
I don't know why Remain didn't just reuse Better Together though. It's short, to the point, emphasizes unity rather than brute strength and nationalism, it'd trip up those who want Scotland to remain but Britain to exit, and it worked last time.

It might piss off the SNP, but I'm not sure if that's a plus or a minus. :v:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They could bring a beloved British former EU leader out of retirement at the last minute for a rousing speech.

The only heads of government during a British presidency of the CoE still alive are Tony Blair and John Major though :suspense:

There's probably someone working hard behind the scenes to resurrect Jim Callaghan using Keith Richards technology.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
BRIT. :stare:
PREVENT :catstare:
STRIVE. :dogbutton:

How long until the government goes full US and starts introducing bills with 'clever' acronym names?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

thespaceinvader posted:

Is there any meaning in this or is it just word vomit?
Jeremy Corbyn is an old white man so he can't be at all progressive. Why can't he dress like Hot Gay Cameron?

The first letter is interesting though, at it reminded me that the UK is still one of the few countries in Europe without abortion on demand. And that Ireland is even worse.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah, it's de facto legal by applying very broad definitions of mental health and wellbeing, but there is a general reluctance to make termination of a pregnancy (within a certain timeframe) an absolute legal right like the rest of Europe that isn't Ireland or Poland.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I mean from the political circles. Doctors being fine with it for the most part is the reason why it's de facto legal, but there's seemingly no political will to legalize it in line with Europe.

It's certainly a preferable situation to parts of the US, where it is de jure legal but some states go out of their way to be fuckers about it, like having one certified clinic in the most remote part of the state, but it is strange that it has still not been done on paper.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I guess that's the sticky problem when you start framing women's rights issues as mental health issues though, and why most of Europe opted to go a slightly different path.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Peter Hitchens posted:

Someone usually pops up at this stage and says that we still manufacture a lot. If you say so, but then why are the drug-dealers so busy in our new factory-free industrial areas, and why can I never buy anything that was made here, except from absurdly expensive luxury shops?
That would be this automation thing that people are all worried about.

Specifically the second wave, where a hall full of machinists on lathes got replaced with a CNC machining center and a couple of machinists who know G-code.

Also a lot of the factories in inner cities are garbage tier or have been rendered uninhabitable by mid 20th century industrial practices like 'throwing poison around everywhere'. The new industrial areas still have factories though.

Now, there are probably plenty of factory jobs that still require people, just look at an assembly line process in China. But also look at the working conditions. We could probably get some of those jobs back without getting those working conditions back if businesses were willing to cut some of the fat at the top, but they'll either offshore or automate and pocket the difference instead if allowed to.
:capitalism:

As for things that are made locally but aren't absurdly expensive luxury products, these are made down the road from me:


But the profits go to PepsiCo or someone now.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It's the International Permanent Revolution vs. Socialism in One Country debate. Bring your own ice pick.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jedit posted:

If the Blairites get sufficiently uppity, is there a chance that the Tory left might break away and join the Labour right?
They could form a new highly successful middle ground party.

Which actually might be a good thing in the long run because they might raise hell to get a different voting system when they inevitably get a ton of votes and 3 seats.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Spangly A posted:

this worked really well for the liberals, SDP-Lib alliance, greens, Lib Dems, and UKIP

I don't actually want the Tory left or the Blairites in power though, but additional voices against FPTP is always good, so it works for me.

e: 9 is the only positive perfect power that is one more than another positive perfect power. It is also the number of tenths of the law that possession is, apparently.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Apr 3, 2016

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

Here, I made a handy flowchart of how this will pan out:


And as parties that are hosed over by the current electoral system don't tend to get in power, the only way anything will change is by freak occurrence? Or are we banking on popular revolution?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Cerv posted:

Would have thought he'd be too busy that weekend. With the aftermath of the EU referendum to deal with.
I don't think he really cares about the result either way. Which is the correct response. Spend the weekend in a field while the Tories rip themselves to shreds over it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Cerv posted:

If we're leaving I'd rather not have the unopposed Tory right setting the terms of the exit negotiations etc
That'll become very valid if Leave wins. Until then any part of the debate is far more hazardous to the Tory government than him as long as he is seen to maintain distance. He's pretty different on Europe to most of his own party too, so it might be better to throw some of the Blairites into that particular grinder of a debate.

Pissflaps posted:

Yeah just leaving the EU. No biggy.
If it really was that important I'm not sure they'd leave it up to a public referendum fed by a media circus rather than appoint a proper review. Who knows though, they've done more illogical things. It seems more a bone throwing exercise than addressing structural issues that are the real causes for people's dissatisfaction.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Zephro posted:

I think it's a little idiosyncratic to argue that leaving the EU would be no big deal, whether you're for it or against it
I just don't think that the Tories would call a public referendum on something unless they're confident that they can get the result they want (like the AV one), or it's an issue that is more of a distraction from the real problems (I don't believe the EU is the root cause of any of Leave's core fears or Remain's core values). Then again they're more divided than at any point since the late Major years so maybe it's just all that poo poo coming to a head. The EU are the root cause of a lot of problems, and they provide some good things too, but none of those are the things that 90% of Leave or Remain are talking about.

Either way, Corbyn maintaining distance rather than poking his dick into the running poo poo-covered lawn strimmer of the Tory EU debate seems like a wise idea. Like Fans said, stay will probably win and he can carry on in a stronger position from the fallout.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Lord of the Llamas posted:

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever?
Governments are like dragons, they stop existing if people stop believing in them.

Sovereign Citizens are people who, having correctly identified that something they don't like is a social construct, and having figured that you can change social constructs just by changing minds, resolve to combat it using One Weird Trick. These Tricks are usually really loving Weird.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Fans posted:

It actually makes less sense when explained.

See your LEGAL NAME is a title made by the government when you're born that just happens to be the same as your real name and entered into the birth register, which is under Crown Copyright. This the government therefore owns your LEGAL NAME bit it's not actually you, because you never gave them permission to make this LEGAL NAME identity. Also since it's copyrighted it's Fraud for you to even use it, because you don't own the LEGAL NAME. Therefore all documents using it are null and void.

This doesn't actually work because it's stupid.
It especially doesn't work in the UK where names are governed by English common law. You don't even need a registered deed of your name, a witnessed stock document in your own possession is sufficient, registered or not, as long as you're not changing your name to commit fraud or other impersonation. It gets a bit more complex if you're standing for public election or some court positions, but as Sovereign Citizens believe all of those are fraudulent anyway they can go right ahead and change their name legally to PAUL COLON SPACE HYPHEN SPACE JONES BRACKET NOT A BOTE CLOSE BRACKET if they want, it's 5 minutes work and a single side of paper.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

awesome-express posted:

Is this some freeman of the land type poo poo?
Related, Jeremy Corbyn's facebook page posted this yesterday:



On the surface, that's some freeman on the land level poo poo, but because nearly everything in politics and law is a social construct, sometimes stunts like that can work, not in the immediate term, but in the long term because they make people think.

That's the most charitable reading that I can give to a lot of that stuff.

On the other end of the scale, some of it is just a cynical scam perpetuated on people who are genuinely being hosed over by the system by selling them a 900 page 'legal' pack filled with a lot of boat references that will claim to rid them of fines or unpayable debt.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
I think the idea is that if enough people stop being a part of that behemoth then it would lose that ability. It's the civil version of "what if they had a war but nobody showed up?" in that it might be a nice idea but it'd probably lead to something worse.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
CeX does. Although I imagine they immediately sell them and do their accounts in sterling because lol otherwise.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
I thought you were able to trade things in for bitcoin there instead of cash or store credit too, if you wanted to do such a thing. Or does Coinbase allow you to do that?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Spangly A posted:

wouldn't that be money laundering?

I mean what you've described is literally trading old games/phones/stolen goods for an untraceable currency held offshore, but I don't know if the British courts have bothered to figure out if Bitcoin is actually a currency. The yanks certainly consider this money laundering.
You can trade whatever for whatever as long as you provide a receipt. And ID from an approved list for transactions over a certain value.

I could run a market stall and decide that I'm only going to accept gold bullion in exact weights as barter (as long as all negotiation is before the sale, it's different for settling a tab after purchase), but I'd need to keep a ledger of transactions and their equivalent value in pounds sterling, and if I've made over a certain amount per tax year I'd have to pay taxes in pounds sterling, and if someone wanted to make a transaction over a certain value I'd need to verify their identity and keep a copy for a period of time, like cash for gold places do.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Til;dr version: For decades we were told spies knew what they were doing. But this was a fantasy. In reality, spies are all poo poo. This is a story of my ongoing task of digging up every piece of footage of people dancing in black & white.


Where is this 'socialist cancer consuming the country' and how can I find out more?

e: It's us, isn't it? :v:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
I would vote for a law that any speech containing the words 'cyber' or 'radical' also has to contain an equal number of uses of 'tubular' or 'gnarly' to ensure the equal use of words that should have been humanely euthanized in the 90s.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Fans posted:

So it's the London Mayoral tomorrow and I live in Wales and have thus heard pretty much gently caress all about it beyond Sadiq Khan is a Muslim and Goldsmith is very keen to point that out, but he's not saying anything in particular he's just saying.
You'd think that Goldsmith would be more wary about using the "He's a member of the ethnic-religious group that we don't like at the moment. Boo that ethnic-religious group." but I guess being a Tory can overrule even that.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Goon project? I'll set up the Indiegogo.

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