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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

dog nougat posted:

I made a stupid alliterative picture.

dead donut




Are you using any references for this? I'm inclined to believe that you're drawing almost primarily from your imagination. That left hand of hers is pretty jacked up looking, considering you're going for a reasonably naturalistic sorta feel. Large portions of the piece are disjointed and drawn from different perspectives, making her look cobbled together and have bizarre body proportions.

When drawing any figure from imagination, your own body provides a great reference material. I recommend you try drawing your hands, like a lot. Not just your non dominant hand either, use your non dominant hand to draw as well, it's really good practice.

It also looks like you're drawing from the wrist a lot too. It's certainly OK to move your wrist as you draw, but draw from the shoulder as well. Your linework seems uncertain and sloppy, but I can see you improving. Put your body into it dude.

I also can't reiterate enough the importance of life drawing to help you improve. Even just still life arrangements are super helpful with drawing forms and light/shadows.

One more thing, what hardness pencils are you using? It kinda looks like you're sticking with one hardness. I personally find it really helpful to do a loose sketch with a fairly hard pencil, like a 2h and then jumping up to a F for more finalized lines, and then a 2b or 3b for the darker/more prominent areas. YMMV.

Thanks for this! I definitely wasn't happy with the body because there was no reference and it was obvious. Here is some life drawing from the other day. Never seems enough. Oh - I am using mechanical pencils because I prefer them. Also - you are correct that I don't use an easel / stand enough when I draw.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Apr 8, 2016

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

a hole-y ghost posted:

If you can, I'd also try to find some long-pose (4-8 hr.) life drawing sessions. I find that they're extremely helpful but woefully underrated.

Yeah - trying to find that in the small town where I currently live is going to be tough. L.A. definitely had a few, however they were more expensive than the usual drawing sessions.

Here is another stab at that flyer. Still not sure if I like it.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Apr 11, 2016

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

a hole-y ghost posted:

Looks pretty cool to me. Maybe clean it up a bit on her lower torso—there's too many lines around crotch level of her body and it's flattening the image out.

Hmmm - not entirely sure what you mean by flattening the image out here. Made some small tweaks regardless.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

a hole-y ghost posted:

I just mean that if you have two things side by side and one's supposed to be closer to the viewer, the closer thing should have more high-contrast detail relative to the further thing.

Hmmm. Upon further reflection, I think I should have spent a lot more time on the illustration before photoshopping in the other elements. The contrast between elements kind of bothers me now.

Daily (ballpoint) drawing.

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Those are pretty great. What hardware / software are you using? A tablet? An ipad?

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

This is fantastic.

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Spider models.




sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Apr 20, 2016

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further



Scathach posted:

Check out the Samsung Note Pro. It's got a ton of memory, Wacom digitizer, and 8 cores so you can use it for fun stuff too. I've been using the 10.1 Note for an average of eight hours a day for about four years and it still doesn't have any scratches on the screen or any problems whatsoever. I'm only waiting to get the Pro because they're still like $700. But a Samsung is the thing you want if you're doing art on the go.

Interesting. Was thinking about getting a surface book but this is much cheaper. Of course, I can't use it for zbrush, but it seems pretty cool as a digital sketchbook.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Apr 22, 2016

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Wowporn posted:

Do you do any sort of wire frame/skeletal structure drawing before you start drawing and shading details

I should draw more underlying anatomy but with live drawing there isn't enough time IMO. So I draw an action line / spine shape first and then draw quick perpendicular lines representing the hips and shoulders at the correct angle. From there I will typically draw the shape of the head next. You can kind of see what I mean in the lower left image here.

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sigma 6
Nov 27, 2004

the mirror would do well to reflect further

Wowporn posted:

I think your priorities are backwards, learning the proportions, skeletal/muscular structure, and poses that the body can do are the biggest parts of drawings from a live model, if you don't have time to get to the shading or intricate facial features you should just leave them out because there are other ways of practicing drawing that will focus on those that aren't as dependent on having a live model. Like, search on tumblr or whatever for life drawing sketches from artists and a lot of them will be blank naked torsos with no face, clothes, or shading. Also starting with the base skeleton and working your way up to the details will force you to get faster at blocking in those first things and getting to the ending details faster and more accurately.

e: also studying skeletons and actually just drawing skeletal structures is really helpful

Drawing from life vs. drawing from anatomical reference (photos or other drawings) are two different things. I agree that knowing anatomy will always help drawing people, however drawing a skeleton -> muscle -> flesh in a life drawing session is very unrealistic (ie. under twenty minutes or under ten minutes). On that note though, I should go back to looking at Loomis's stuff and work my way through his books.

New thread up.

sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 14:58 on May 1, 2016

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