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how me a frog
Feb 6, 2014

AEMINAL posted:

with USA being all about capitalism it's pretty hosed that competition is so loving limited

ISP districts, utility pole ownership and poo poo, google fiber has had so much poo poo thrown in their way while trying to expand

here in europe i just plugged my computer into the ethernet port in my wall after moving in, and then a page listing all the ISP providers with prices, speeds, contract times, special deals etc. appeared. i picked a good one and a minute later i was jacked in for real

get your loving poo poo together USA

edit: poo poo

Yeah, sure you did.

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Twat le Piss
Aug 4, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Champenema posted:

It is when the check-signin hand has to do the job of the lovin hand. Might as well try to get laid, that ain't hard at all is it? :psyduck:

What the gently caress does that mean? Are you povvo?

a peck of pickled peckers
Aug 3, 2014

I am your Redeemer! It is by my hand that you arise from the ashes of this world!

I usually download my hardcore sodomy porn in the library at school. Often without headphones plugged in.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
I have been on a grandfathered unlimited data plan on Verizon since 2008. They try so desperately to get me off it. In November of 2015 they announced they were raising the price of unlimited for the 1% of customers who still have it by 20 bucks a month. Through some fuckery I was able to get my line on contract for two more years. So not only do I still get it for 20 less per month, I got an iPhone 5s for $50 which I sold for $300. So by Verizon trying to increase my unlimited data by $20 a month, I made $780 :cool:

Eat my rear end, Verizon. Though I guess I'll be boned in November of 2017.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
i loving left my phone on netflix when i thought i was on my friends wifi when i slept over last night and i wasn't so i went like 3 gigs over cause it didnt stop playing videos for some reason

yay overage fees

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Lol i live in canada where for 60 bux a month you get 1 gigglebutt of data. Just burn us off the earth please.

Decebal
Jan 6, 2010
How do they try to explain this ? It's not like MB are a limited resource like oil or tuna. I know they have to pay people and electricity and stuff, but giving you another 50 Gb probably cost them 50 cents.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

gannyGrabber posted:

Lol i live in canada where for 60 bux a month you get 1 gigglebutt of data. Just burn us off the earth please.

Why is it that Canada is so terrible and backwards when it comes to Internet and cellphones? ISP data capping is fairly rare here in the states (for now at least).

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Decebal posted:

How do they try to explain this ? It's not like MB are a limited resource like oil or tuna. I know they have to pay people and electricity and stuff, but giving you another 50 Gb probably cost them 50 cents.


It's something to do with 4g+ (which wasn't around a few years ago hence "grandfathering") that someone else ca ln explain cos I forgot, that and a combination of capitalism

Shaquin
May 12, 2007

Decebal posted:

How do they try to explain this ? It's not like MB are a limited resource like oil or tuna. I know they have to pay people and electricity and stuff, but giving you another 50 Gb probably cost them 50 cents.

because what the gently caress are ya gonna do about it

Decebal
Jan 6, 2010

Shaquin posted:

because what the gently caress are ya gonna do about it

I guess. But a carrier that wouldn't do that would sweep a big chink of the market. Surprising that nobody tries it and bankrupt the competition

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
i have unlimited internet on my phone because i live in europe :smug:

Shaquin
May 12, 2007

Decebal posted:

I guess. But a carrier that wouldn't do that would sweep a big chink of the market. Surprising that nobody tries it and bankrupt the competition

yeah buddy a monopoly is definitely the good outcome for consumer rights

Decebal
Jan 6, 2010

Shaquin posted:

yeah buddy a monopoly is definitely the good outcome for consumer rights

You know everyone would follow suit. Just like they did when Tmobile dropped the contract thing

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Why is it that Canada is so terrible and backwards when it comes to Internet and cellphones? ISP data capping is fairly rare here in the states (for now at least).

$90 for 2.5 gigs a month, i love rogers, would get hosed again

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
$34 for a 25MB line with unlimited download per month.

Not great, but still loving laughably better than you second world countries.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

happyhippy posted:

$34 for a 25MB line with unlimited download per month.

Not great, but still loving laughably better than you second world countries.

lol at least im not gonna have trump as my head of government

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Hot Karl Marx posted:

lol at least im not gonna have trump as my head of government

Neither am I, am in Ireland.
I converted it from euros to dollars for comparison.

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
trumps coming for ireland too

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
hide your wives hide your daughters

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
At least I will be able to see him in 1080HD

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
after his election trump will ensure 4k televisions for all

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

Heroes of the Storm
Goon Tournament Champion
I'm grandfathered in on Verizon unlimited data for fairly cheap. However, my phone cracked/screen died and I only have extended warranty. Now I'm faced with the option of switching carriers or paying fuckin Verizon full retail price for a new phone. loving poo poo. Been with these bitches for 6 years and I don't want to lose that data :( .

AEMINAL
May 22, 2015

barf barf i am a dog, barf on your carpet, barf

how me a frog posted:

Yeah, sure you did.

im sorry for you if you believe what i said was a lie lol

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
im gonna jack ya into a hell portal

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
$19.99 a month for the first year and only the soul sucking horror of the abyss after

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Why is it that Canada is so terrible and backwards when it comes to Internet and cellphones? ISP data capping is fairly rare here in the states (for now at least).

All the providers in Canada have decided to work together semi-openly and fight against anything that threaten their profits. Our last PM, who was a huge poo poo but tried to do one good thing, tried to bring more companies in from the States to encourage competition but it got shot down because the few companies that we have invested in our country therefore letting anyone else in is wrong or some bullshit, essentially showing everyone just who's in charge.

We're the laughingstock of the world when it comes to Phone/Internet

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Professor Shark posted:

All the providers in Canada have decided to work together semi-openly and fight against anything that threaten their profits. Our last PM, who was a huge poo poo but tried to do one good thing, tried to bring more companies in from the States to encourage competition but it got shot down because the few companies that we have invested in our country therefore letting anyone else in is wrong or some bullshit, essentially showing everyone just who's in charge.

We're the laughingstock of the world when it comes to Phone/Internet

and they all talk to each other on how hard to gently caress us every year so no matter who you go with your gonna get hosed and hosed hard

Maguro
Apr 24, 2006

Why is the sun always bullying me?

limeincoke posted:

I'm grandfathered in on Verizon unlimited data for fairly cheap. However, my phone cracked/screen died and I only have extended warranty. Now I'm faced with the option of switching carriers or paying fuckin Verizon full retail price for a new phone. loving poo poo. Been with these bitches for 6 years and I don't want to lose that data :( .

What kind of phone is it? It may be cheap to repair.

Decebal
Jan 6, 2010

Hot Karl Marx posted:

and they all talk to each other on how hard to gently caress us every year so no matter who you go with your gonna get hosed and hosed hard

Don't you guys have anti-collusion laws ? You're more "socialist" that the US and even the hardcore capitalists have them

Hyped
Jan 28, 2004

limeincoke posted:

I'm grandfathered in on Verizon unlimited data for fairly cheap. However, my phone cracked/screen died and I only have extended warranty. Now I'm faced with the option of switching carriers or paying fuckin Verizon full retail price for a new phone. loving poo poo. Been with these bitches for 6 years and I don't want to lose that data :( .

That all changed when they increased the plans by 20/month. You can now get a phone on contract and keep the plan.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Decebal posted:

Don't you guys have anti-collusion laws ? You're more "socialist" that the US and even the hardcore capitalists have them

You know how China can't reign in their banks or whatever? Canada is like that, only with our Phone/Internet Providers

Our government (through the CRTC, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications) told our providers to offer an affordable TV plan no more than $25/mth, and they offered a super lovely plan that ends up costing more than $25, pretty much just daring the government to call them on it.

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
500mb used to last me all month with my first cable modem.
My advice is to cap your phone at 128kbit and browse the 90's internet through archive.org

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Professor Shark posted:

You know how China can't reign in their banks or whatever? Canada is like that, only with our Phone/Internet Providers

Our government (through the CRTC, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications) told our providers to offer an affordable TV plan no more than $25/mth, and they offered a super lovely plan that ends up costing more than $25, pretty much just daring the government to call them on it.

They openly divide up the country into zones so that there's effectively only one cable and one DSL provider per area. But it's not a monopoly you see, because there's technically two *internet* providers :rolleyes:.

They were forced to allow third party ISP resellers to use their lines they build with massive government subsidies, but then just subtly gently caress them over in anti-competitive ways. Like, all the installation and service techs have to be from the megacorp that owns cable or DSL or whatever in your area, and if you're on a third party, they'll randomly not show up, cancel appointments, and just gently caress around because how dare you not want to pay $70/month for a 25MB connection with an 100GB cap.

Or that time they started buying up the streaming rights to a lot of poo poo people used to sneak on to US Netflix to get (politely divided between each company naturally), so they could launch their own streaming services. Then made it inaccessible unless you bought a full cable or satellite package, AND paid another $5/month.

But we can't have more competition because "FOREIGNERS WILL BE STEALING GOOD CANADIAN JOBS" :canada:

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

I have 15gb split between 3 people, but only 2 of us actually use it. I don't even know if I have a cap at home and I know I've downloaded more than 10gb in a couple hours plenty if times. Holy poo poo, lmbo.

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

Decebal posted:

How do they try to explain this ? It's not like MB are a limited resource like oil or tuna. I know they have to pay people and electricity and stuff, but giving you another 50 Gb probably cost them 50 cents.

Nobody in any position of power would understand how to ask the question.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

They openly divide up the country into zones so that there's effectively only one cable and one DSL provider per area. But it's not a monopoly you see, because there's technically two *internet* providers :rolleyes:.

They were forced to allow third party ISP resellers to use their lines they build with massive government subsidies, but then just subtly gently caress them over in anti-competitive ways. Like, all the installation and service techs have to be from the megacorp that owns cable or DSL or whatever in your area, and if you're on a third party, they'll randomly not show up, cancel appointments, and just gently caress around because how dare you not want to pay $70/month for a 25MB connection with an 100GB cap.

Or that time they started buying up the streaming rights to a lot of poo poo people used to sneak on to US Netflix to get (politely divided between each company naturally), so they could launch their own streaming services. Then made it inaccessible unless you bought a full cable or satellite package, AND paid another $5/month.

But we can't have more competition because "FOREIGNERS WILL BE STEALING GOOD CANADIAN JOBS" :canada:

I love how every Canadian knows they're being hosed but we cannot seem to do anything about it

emoji
Jun 4, 2004
I pay $55/mo for my unlimited data/text/rollover minutes AT&T plan that I've had since middle school. They always try to get me to 'upgrade' my plan but I refuse.

I am not a book
Mar 9, 2013
Nationalize the internet IMO then ship all ISP execs to Texas for execution.
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but for real though I think there's a constitutional argument to be made for the creation of a state owned network available to anyone e.g. the USPS

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Kidney Stone
Dec 28, 2008

The worst pain ever!
Denmark here: $30 for 20GB of data, unlimited calls and text messages - and no roaming or data fees paid in the rest of EU and US when using the phone there.

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