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As someone who has never actually played the games, it's really disconcerting how lighthearted everyone is after someone's girlfriend was just brutally murdered in her own home.
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It really makes you think. But, really, a lot of the charm of the series comes from the goofiness despite the grim subject matter.
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Apr 5, 2016 07:33
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It's fine, Larry got away with it, no harm came of this murder.
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Apr 5, 2016 07:38
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I'd actually gotten used to that aspect after initially being a bit wtf when I played the first game but this episode kind of threw it into light again.
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Apr 5, 2016 08:33
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I'm having a hard time accepting how young Phoenix sounds. My mental image of him had a somewhat older sounding VA. Edit: He sounds much better once he's in the courtroom and shouting a bit though. Amstrad fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Apr 5, 2016 11:17
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Eej posted:As someone who has never actually played the games, it's really disconcerting how lighthearted everyone is after someone's girlfriend was just brutally murdered in her own home. Sakurazuka posted:I'd actually gotten used to that aspect after initially being a bit wtf when I played the first game but this episode kind of threw it into light again. Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Apr 5, 2016 15:43
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It's been a while since I've played the games, aren't the first cases in every game pretty bad? If memory serves they're all tutorials where the real culprit is practically wearing a sign that says "I'm the killer" and you spend most of the case hitting the judge over the head with it.
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Apr 6, 2016 04:43
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Hitting the judge in the head is the only known method for communicating with him.
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Apr 6, 2016 04:45
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LostRook posted:It's been a while since I've played the games, aren't the first cases in every game pretty bad? 3-1 is cool, I2-1 is cool
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Apr 6, 2016 05:26
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My least favorite case was the third in both Ace Attorney games I played.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:19
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In fairness, the third usually tends to be the one most people dislike for all of the games. They usually range from "kinda good filler" (1 and 3) to "what even is this poo poo" (2 and AJ's).
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Apr 6, 2016 06:29
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There was one 3-3 bit that really felt like the most blatant padding. Eh it's subjective.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:33
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Eej posted:As someone who has never actually played the games, it's really disconcerting how lighthearted everyone is after someone's girlfriend was just brutally murdered in her own home. They have a confetti shower after the verdict. You really don't want to take these cases too seriously.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:50
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StandardVC10 posted:There was one 3-3 bit that really felt like the most blatant padding. Eh it's subjective. Hence "kinda good."  Both those cases had some serious lulls in the action, but were at least fairly cohesive.And nowhere near as bad as the characters themselves pointing out how loving stupid the premise for AJ's case 3 was.
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Apr 6, 2016 07:00
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Mulderman posted:They have a confetti shower after the verdict. You really don't want to take these cases too seriously. http://awkwardzombie.com/index.php?comic=122214 I guess those bailiffs are also there to clean up the confetti before the next case like movie theatre ushers before the next showing.
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Apr 6, 2016 09:30
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The only good thing about that POS Layton vs Phoenix is to hammer home how extremely hosed up witch trials are in every way, even if they're not literally "throw her in the river, if she drowns she's not a witch". And even then they backpedal on it hard later on. Ugh.
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Apr 6, 2016 12:09
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Layton had the superior anime, I think he wins.
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Apr 6, 2016 12:42
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Only familiar with the anime Layton that's in the game, which is pretty quality admittedly. I do also admit that the "I never drink more than 17 cups of tea during any given puzzle" line was extremely boss, but it didn't make up for the rest of the game.
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Apr 6, 2016 21:40
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I've never played any of the games. Will I give a poo poo about this show?
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Apr 6, 2016 21:55
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Maybe. Honestly, the anime hasn't gotten to the real meat of the games yet, so it's kinda hard to tell if it'll pull off everything. But it's okay, and the games' stories are generally pretty good, so the script should be solid.
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Apr 6, 2016 22:06
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I enjoyed the Layton crossover a lot.
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Seventh Mode posted:I've never played any of the games. Will I give a poo poo about this show? Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 22:49
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Yeah you should definitely play the games, because the mysteries were created to be solved through the game. This anime is just for fans to laugh at
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Apr 6, 2016 23:08
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mabels big day posted:Yeah you should definitely play the games, because the mysteries were created to be solved through the game. This anime is just for fans to laugh at That's the feeling I got - it's a fun thing for those who have played the games (I have, although it's been some years now). Then again, we're only 1 episode in. I feel like the second case may make or break this. At least for me, it probably will. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 00:22
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i only ever got to like, the third trial in the second game but it still makes me happy to see them ape the camera angles of the game. is this a 12-13 episode thing or a 24-26 episode thing? my biggest impression of the games was that they're slow. i'm not sure if i want this to be quicker or not but if they're covering two games in 12 episodes it would probably be p perfunctory.
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Apr 7, 2016 02:27
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It's going to cover Justice for All too, so unless they do major cramming, it has to be 24-26.
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Apr 7, 2016 02:52
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Takumi said in a statement that the anime would be half a year, so it's 2 cour.
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Apr 7, 2016 03:05
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24-26 for the first 2 games would give us about 3-4 episodes per case, with 2-1 being 1 or 2 episodes.
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Apr 7, 2016 05:57
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25/23 episodes of Gumshoe 
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Apr 7, 2016 07:04
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I still can't get over everyone running in the intro. This might have the best OP of the year.
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Apr 7, 2016 13:35
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I like how in the world of Ace Attorney in order to get a defendant declared Not Guilty you have to not only prove that they are innocent, but also prove someone else in the court room is guilty. I'm pretty sure that there are multiple Ace Attorney cases where you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your client could not have committed the crime, but the judge will still be like "welp looks like we got no choice but to end this trial and declare your client guilty unless you can prove who did it." I wonder if it's some sort of commentary on the Japanese justice system (which is apparently extremely unfriendly to defendants). My favorite Ace Attorney game is probably Dual Destinies, largely because I feel like it did a really great job with making the various characters 3D and giving them interesting/funny animations. I also like Apollo Justice a lot more after that game and Athena Cykes is alright (and has some pretty great "dramatic stuff is happening" courtroom music). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 22:48
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Ytlaya posted:I wonder if it's some sort of commentary on the Japanese justice system (which is apparently extremely unfriendly to defendants). Japan has a greater than 99% conviction rate, but why that is so is not clear. I suspect the ridiculously long interrogations have something to do with it, but all I know about it is what I've read on Wiki so what do I know.
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It is most definitely commentary on the Japanese justice system, especially when you consider AA4's introduction of the Jurist system and Japan actually introducing jury trials around the same period of time.
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Apr 8, 2016 01:16
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I recall reading that one factor is that they only go to court if they're really sure they'll be able to convict. But that's years-old hearsay. The need to find the actual perp is probably partially just for the sake of storytelling and they didn't want to bother with a "Not Guilty but the killer's loose" game over screen.
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Motto posted:The need to find the actual perp is probably partially just for the sake of storytelling and they didn't want to bother with a "Not Guilty but the killer's loose" game over screen. Oh, for sure. It's just really funny in the game when you've already deduced that your client has nothing to do with the murder, but the Judge is like "welp, if you can't pull out evidence proving this witness committed the crime I have no choice but to declare the defendant guilty!"
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Ytlaya posted:Oh, for sure. It's just really funny in the game when you've already deduced that your client has nothing to do with the murder, but the Judge is like "welp, if you can't pull out evidence proving this witness committed the crime I have no choice but to declare the defendant guilty!" Part of it is that in most cases, Phoenix's defense of his client hinges 100% on someone else doing it. There's very few cases where you prove your defendant innocent without pointing the finger first, and then the rest of the trial becomes a case of proving your accusation correct, because if your accusation is wrong, then your entire story falls apart. There's like one case where you prove they could not have done it first and it really stands out as a result, but most of the time, the accusation IS your defense, so it works. The judge is kind of dumb and easily persuaded so you can sorta make it make sense that the prosecution bullies them into the Guilty verdict if you mess up, but its still weird when it happens.
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Apr 8, 2016 06:14
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Japan had such a high conviction rate because they have excellent detectives that solve crimes like Gumshoe
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Apr 8, 2016 13:09
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Thank you to my pal, Dick Gumshoe.
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Apr 8, 2016 13:30
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Is Case 5 going to be in this? That could be a 12 episode series by itself
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Apr 8, 2016 16:43
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My money's probably on no if it's a 2 cour.
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