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Lucy Heartfilia posted:This is not true for Germany at least. I'm going off the map of public officials implicated. I'm sure there are loads of private citizens in American-allied countries that are involved with this. (thus far)
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Real reason: American media are more cautious and triple check before piblishing any names. http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-panama-papers-20160403-story.html LA times just reported
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shizen posted:http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-panama-papers-20160403-story.html Carrying an AP piece on it Having a scan over the ICIJ's journalists in the US most of them seem to academics so maybe they don't have a media partner to carry the pieces in the same way as the UK
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Apr 4, 2016 00:10
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Could the FBI use information from the leak to build a case against people?
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lolquote:For decades, spouses — nearly always male and part of the global One Percent — have solicited Mossack Fonseca to help shield assets from soon-to-be exes, according to the files. And Mossack Fonseca has agreed with little hesitation.  https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160403-divorce-offshore-intrigue.html
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I have full confidence that nothing will happen to anyone involved, except the people who leaked and reported it. The ABC in Australia has a report on TV tonight, so perhaps we'll hear some of the Australian connections then - the news here said Australian companies were involved. There's an election that's started...maybe some politicians were involved here?
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Aliyev's family, Vladimir Vladimirovich himself (and friends), King Salman and a crown prince, a son of Kofi Annan, the UAE prez, Cameron's dad, Ayad Allawi, a princess de Borbon, the widow of Lansana Conté, Alaa Mubarak, the loving Makhlouf brothers and what looks like to be a big chunk of the Iceland cabinet. Niiiiiice. Also a guy whose description is: -once the richest member of Brazilian parliament-, lól.
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Apr 4, 2016 00:19
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Is it possible to design and regulate a system so that this can not take place again?
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HisMajestyBOB posted:Could the FBI use information from the leak to build a case against people? US companies and citizens yes. RICO and FCPA are vicious loving laws that don't give a single gently caress who gets caught up in it.
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Comstar posted:I have full confidence that nothing will happen to anyone involved, except the people who leaked and reported it. Yeah, that's sort of the problem with this. The people most heavily involved are also in the most corrupt countries where they'll be the least likely to be bothered by it. There will be some fallout, obviously, but not as much as people are hoping for. American media will be all over it once American names are involved. They generally don't give a poo poo about the rest of the world as long as there's meaningless political gossip to hyperventilate about.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:why would King al Saud need to shelter assets? What happens if the people come after you with a guillotine?
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VideoTapir posted:From the Wikipedia article: come on USA highlight HIGHLIGHT SO HARD
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I mean they havent dropped anything about people in the United states yet. That will be interesting. They might not, considering this effort is partly funded by USAID.
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VideoTapir posted:They might not, considering this effort is partly funded by USAID. The previously leaked documents revealing the finer points of the Koch brothers and Disneys tax loophole schemes so I think you might be jumping the gun a tad
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Volkerball posted:lol they made a game I think the politican's ending is randomised so that most of the time you lose, until a "spelling error" means you get away with everything lol.
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School Nickname posted:I think the politican's ending is randomised so that most of the time you lose, until a "spelling error" means you get away with everything lol. I kind of like how the politician option basically lets you simulate Hillary Clinton's Clinton Foundation.
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Xae posted:Is it possible to design and regulate a system so that this can not take place again? Since you said regulate I assume you mean regarding funneling money around. Short version: not until we have a World Government.
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kustomkarkommando posted:The previously leaked documents revealing the finer points of the Koch brothers and Disneys tax loophole schemes so I think you might be jumping the gun a tad I'm confident we'll see loads of dirt on private citizens and corporations and whatever, what I'm looking for/forward to is anything on public officials.
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Come on, Hillary! At least give us Goldman Sachs.
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Apr 4, 2016 00:38
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How long does it usually take the legs to gain real traction? A day or a week? It feels like we've stumbled on an Illuminati conspiracy.
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Skeptical that there is nothing on the map for North America.
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Grouchio posted:How long does it usually take the legs to gain real traction? A day or a week? Well the the joint teams announced a comprehensive list of the companies will be published in May.
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Reason posted:Skeptical that there is nothing on the map for North America. Mexico got kicked out of North America? Bummer 
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quote:Jürgen Mossack is a German immigrant whose father sought a new life in Panama for his family after serving in Hitler’s Waffen-SS during World War II. Ramón Fonseca is an award-winning novelist who has worked in recent years as an adviser to Panama’s president.
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Reason posted:Skeptical that there is nothing on the map for North America. Mexico is in North America. Regardless, I don't doubt that there's at least a few American senators/congresspersons with their fingers in this pie. I'd be surprised if there were any Canadian leaders within the past two decades tied to this more than tangentially. We're a rather penny-pinching bunch up here, and our leaders tend to live relatively austere (by the standards of public servants) lives while in office. Maybe Stephen Harper has a few hundred thousand dumped in some offshore somewhere.
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quote:The Editor in Chief of Süddeutsche Zeitung responded to the lack of United States individuals in the documents, saying to "Just wait for what is coming next". edit: Reason posted:Skeptical that there is nothing on the map for North America. At least 2 dozen rich Canadians have been implicated.
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Wasn't it already public knowledge that David Cameron's dad used off shore bank accounts? A lot of sources say that Cameron's net worth is around £3.8 million, and his dad stashed around £2.7 million in off shore account. I'm assuming that a lot of the money went to Cameron's older siblings, but that for getting invovled with a shady company like that, it seems like an oddly low fortune? I'm sure there's less comically evil finance companies to go with? Also, the pro-Putin angry commenters are out on the news sites already demanding to know how dare the media slander Putin 
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Jürgen Mossack is a German immigrant whose father sought a new life in Panama for his family after serving in Hitler’s Waffen-SS during World War II. You couldn't make it up. Apparently he fled justice by offering to be a spy for the Americans on communists in post-war Europe. Before relocating to Panama to spy on Castro's 26th of July Movement in Cuba.
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Well yeah. This wasn't your immediate thought when you saw it was a German guy from Latin America?
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What are the chances any of these outlets will actually release the raw data?
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Marenghi posted:You couldn't make it up. Apparently he fled justice by offering to be a spy for the Americans on communists in post-war Europe. Before relocating to Panama to spy on Castro's 26th of July Movement in Cuba. It's like The Boys from Brazil meets The Big Short.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:edit: The map is only of leaders, it doesn't include rich citizens who've been implicated. Ireland isn't on that map but a company registered here and ran by an accountant previously implicated in facilitating bribes between construction companies and leading politicians in the 90's, has been implicated in facilitating the international trade of spy equipment, arms and military equipment between companies and nations by methods open to bribery. Marenghi fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Xandu posted:What are the chances any of these outlets will actually release the raw data? For that matter, do we even know where the documents are coming from? It may be the case that they're being parceled out now to trusted outlets before the big Internet dump.
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Julian Assange is going to use this as a chance to be annoying and attention seeking again, isn't he? Dude wishes he was as cool as Ed Snowden.
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Vermain posted:For that matter, do we even know where the documents are coming from? It may be the case that they're being parceled out now to trusted outlets before the big Internet dump. I think they were anonymously leaked to the ICIJ, which then distributed them to various journalism outlets. https://panamapapers.icij.org/pages/reporting_partners/
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FYI: Dick Cheney represented Wyoming in Congress way back when.
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