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Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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TacMan posted:

I'm gonna get mad for a second, why don't any of these cool games have online multiplayer?! Is it seriously that hard to get someone to figure out the networking bits?

As someone currently working on getting networking into a game, very much yes.

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Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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This game is extremely good and the Klobb is still extremely bad.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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poemdexter posted:

You should have read the Klobb description before using it...

Will do that next time! I read most things I swear.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Jetamo posted:

Lift Things:

No idea what triggers further progression here, as the third floor is continuing to wreck me everytime.

They need to have him explain where he is a bit more. I could have sword he just says "I'll wait for you by the second floor elevator" once but then never again. I thought it was glitched!



e: gently caress the tank boss on the third floor :saddowns:

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Good lord the Disintegrator is loving beastmode. And I was having a great run once until goddamn DOOR LORD mashed my loving poo poo in.

This game owns.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Xaris posted:

I wish there was the Nuclear Throne equivalent of golden weapons that you can save and start with

When the gently caress was this added? I've put a ton of hours into Nuclear Throne and almost beaten it a bunch of times and I've never seen a golden weapon.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Lakbay posted:

Apparently the hunter had a non-luck based increased item find but they removed it. They should put it back in because her dog hates me and most of the time after a room clear it just stands there looking adorable.

It's real good for identifying mimics though.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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There's also multiple Dark Souls NPC tropes and straight up a Chloranthy Ring

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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BJPaskoff posted:

Don't try this with the Beholster's buddies, they'll actually hurt you if you walk into them even though they're just sitting there crying.

Yeah that was some bullshit.


e: and i know it's all pixel art which is probably the only thing that makes it possibly but i'm impressed by how much work goes into making so many of the guns unique from reload animations to custom ammo and all kinds of other effects

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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I don't understand how you're supposed to use the Alien Engine without taking hits constantly.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Holy poo poo is active reload a good perk.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Holy gently caress is the fifth floor a nightmare.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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I really don't like how some of the active items are single use.

And yeah runs do feel really uneven in ways Isaac's rarely did. It's not a deal breaker but kind of annoying.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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poemdexter posted:

I have around 20 deaths so far and have killed the past with 3 of the 4 characters. If you play it like a bullet hell game and take your time and dodge correctly and learn patterns, you're fine. I never open chests in first floor because I always try for the secret floor and don't have issues doing no hit runs in bosses and the starter gun is usually good enough for the first two chambers.

The solution is get good.

My 45 deaths with no wins will haunt your dreams.

I'm going to make my own bullet hell roguelike and be good at that instead :qq:

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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I just wish I got more weird combinations more often. I can get to floor 5 now but man the first three are kind of a slog. Oh cool I got a water cannon and unfinished gun on Floor 1 and 2 and there's no keys, welp time to kill myself.


If I ever managed to a buff like Fat Bullets with the Marine his primary weapon would be pretty drat powerful but nope never.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Systems that reward you for playing better are super common in a ton of games, Binding of Isaac included. Why would you be rewarded for loving up?

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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I AM BRAWW posted:

yes, hello?

is there Pornography of the green and blue doctors yet. Thank you

They're my favorite characters in this game.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Any game that has a fun thing that's balanced around the player not doing said fun thing has design problems. Gungeon is definitely a good game but it sucks to feel penalized for using all of the crazy, powerful guns you can find.


Also gently caress the Corsair, what a useless piece of poo poo.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Sloober posted:

TBH a lot of guns don't feel like they're really all that great - anything out of a brownchest is really nothing more than your basic pistol with ammo

This actually makes me wonder why there aren't alternate not fantastic but maybe a little better/different infinite ammo guns to find to replace the starting ones. That seems like it could fix quite a few issues without altering the balance too much.


e: also what's with this game using actual gun manufacturer names? is that allowed now? i seem to remember Counter-Strike going from real names to fake a while back but then there was some court case where it turns out those things aren't protected and now there are real names again

Yodzilla fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Apr 14, 2016

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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https://twitter.com/DodgeRollGames/status/593625936131653632

Heh.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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No Safe Word posted:

I think that's a side effect of all Unity 2D stuff, since they just do 3D with basically no 3rd axis.

As someone making a game using Unity 2D, not necessarily. What they're showing there is that the dungeons actually are 3D (like actual walls and such) but the camera is pointed at them and has all depth turned off so the final result looks 2D. The sprites are tilted to match the camera angle so they look like their face-on with it.

Basically the same idea as what the recent Zelda did http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/19/zelda-link-worlds-developers-cheat-camera/

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Boy is this game kinda bad in co-op. In normal rooms it's mostly manageable but the camera is garbage during boss fights.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Zorodius posted:

Did you guys see this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnterTheGungeon/comments/4hzyxz/you_maybe_should_use_your_starter_gun_for_half_of/d2u4pej?context=1

you can't roll standard ammo drops while holding your starter at the end of a room.

that explains a whole lot.

Oh thank gently caress this is going to change goddamn everything.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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My first run with the new patch gave me three ammo refills on the first floor :goleft:

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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This is also a free update right? I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Wrath of the Lamb style expansion later with more bosses and zones vs weapon content. That's generally a lot more work.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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I hadn't played this since before the ammo drop fix was added and yeah builds feel way more different and fun now. I still can't tell if this game is way harder than Isaac or if I'm just complete garbage at it.

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Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

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Woot after bitching about difficulty I finally beat the Dragun! I'm glad he wasn't too tough, probably easier than lost floor 3 or 4 bosses.

I didn't even have that great of a loadout. I cleared most rooms with Hexagun and Machine Pistol and had Vulcan Cannon and Commando for bosses. No good passives but I used time stop once and double vision twice on bosses.

I'll probably never do any of the secret poo poo :(

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