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GlyphGryph posted:Interesting. Would you consider the MiB style "erase the last 10 minutes" mind wipers to effectively be murder, for killing the individual you were and replacing it with someone from the past? That's inaccurate, the MiB device doesn't replace you with an earlier you, it replaces you with earlier you + 10 minute hole. If it went back in time and pulled 10 minutes ago you forward as a replacement that might be considered murder, but mostly because both bodies would self-destruct when they touched each other.
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vintagepurple posted:I really can't make sense of oh dear me's point unless they're of the belief that they/their sister will just wake up in the new copied body. It's not about the "original organism." It's about you being absolutely dead and replaced. Your thoughts are gone. Your sister is still dead. There's just an uncanny valley clone walking about thinking it's the person you guys were. That's not what uncanny valley means, as the person wandering around presumably would be indistinguishable from the original rather than very close but just off enough to cause unease. The whole argument against sister cloning comes across as a fetishism of authenticity or religious fervor. If the only way to tell the difference is to be told which is the original then authenticity loses all meaning to the observer. This is wholly different from saying you'd be ok doing it to yourself.
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Peta posted:There are echoes of the uncanny valley in the idea that you can look at a replica of your dead sister and find yourself disturbed by the knowledge that sh'es only a replica rather than the original. quote:Ah yes. It is OK to be tricked, because you do not know you are being tricked while you are being tricked. In the clone scenario it's simple to envision a method where knowledge of which is the original is destroyed, so I'm not even sure how that becomes a trick outside of attempting negative framing. Both then become clones and originals.
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Control Volume posted:Are people who teleport more likely to be serial killers? No, the teleporters will shrink and enlarge the skull as necessary to remove those characteristics.
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Kit Walker posted:Until you start earnestly arguing that you'd be fine with your loved ones getting killed so long as they were replaced with their identical duplicates. Why wouldn't someone be ok with that? Or perhaps why shouldn't they?
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Apr 12, 2016 21:01
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Kit Walker posted:I never thought I'd be asked to explain to someone why their loved ones getting killed was a bad thing but here we are. So explain it.
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Kit Walker posted:How about instead you explain to a loved one why they should be fine with it? Why would I do that? How they feel about the teleporter is their decision, not mine. Presumably if they are ok with using a teleporter then conveniently I should experience no continuity break when they use it. Zachack fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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Control Volume posted:What if your sister was cloned, and they got in a fight to the death in front of you over their identity, but in the melee you weren't able to see who the victor was. Would you help the survivor dispose of the body? My taxes are high enough, I don't need some maybe-clone clogging up the prison system.
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