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HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


*snip*

Somebody fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Aug 23, 2016

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Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

A Sinister Rap posted:

The game was called Cry On and was also being co-developed by Mistwalker, Hironobu Sakaguchi's company that he made after leaving Square. And though I remember hearing that it was supposed to be connected to Drakengard, I can't find an official source at all. Sakaguchi did put the trailer on his YouTube account in 2014.

Cavia was working on it as co-developer, and it shared the same character designer as Drakengard, but that's where the connections end. And it would involve golems, but was otherwise unrelated.

JordanKai posted:

:synthy: Update Time! :synthy:
Enjoy!(?)

:allears: It's a great summary, and especially great to hear your co-commentator's increasingly confused and amused reaction to Drakengard's bonkers plot.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.



Mind the rules! :shobon:

JordanKai posted:

:siren: Also, please don't speculate about where the plot is going! I've seen enough spoilers being posted under the guise of "speculation" on this subforum that I'd rather just nip that in the bud as a whole. Thank you!

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


JordanKai posted:

Mind the rules! :shobon:

Ack, sorry about that. It's a shame Ickwalyx didn't see the footage during the Drakengard videos as you were explaining things to him, because words alone can't convey the sheer :wtc: factor of that game.

Nyagato
Apr 6, 2009
To bad the game crashed before the best part of the credits.

SpookBus
Aug 22, 2015
I really want to see the reactions of random people in Tokyo when a giant skeleton dragon and a stone lady fall from the sky and the dragon gets impaled on a tower.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


8-bit Drakengard

Nyagato posted:

To bad the game crashed before the best part of the credits.



This really just makes the entire game. It's a perfect ending.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


:synthy: Update Time! :synthy:

After last week's rather intense update I think we have to cool off a little bit. It's time for another double update, because we have a lot of sidequests to take care of. Even though we pick up a grab bag of different sidequests, we still managed to make a themed episode out of it, sort of. Once that's done, we're heading back to the Forest of Myth to take care of the Deathdream once and for all (presumably, at least).







Quest Logs:


AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

"Melon" without any qualifiers generally refers to honeydew melon or rockmelon (cantaloupe) in Japanese, so Yonah's request isn't terribly redundant. :eng101:

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


...the greatest of feasts, indeed?

bhlaab
Feb 21, 2005

JordanKai posted:

:synthy: Update Time! :synthy:

I've got a very special update for you all today. As I've mentioned before, NieR is a sorta-kinda sequel to Drakengard. The games are only very tenuously related to one another and knowledge of Drakengard's plot isn't a requirement for enjoying NieR. That said, I do think you'll get a whole lot more out of this LP if you at least have a cursory idea of what Drakengard is and what happens in it.

So to that end, here is a 45-minute video in which I explain the plot of Drakengard to an increasingly dumbfounded Ikwaylx. Enjoy!



You talked about the base looking like the twin towers and how it was probably unintentional.

Well, maybe not.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/20/nier-drakengard-creator-says-nier-inspired-9-11/ (spoilers)

quote:

Later in the panel, Yoko moved on to discussing Nier and some of the ways in which that game attempts to move the player. For Nier’s design, he revealed, he was deeply influenced by the events of 9/11 and the world thereafter.

The way it's inspired by 9/11 might be a little spoiler-y so I'm not including it (it's in the article, as are some other significant spoilers, so read at your own risk), but there is a pretty good reason.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


bhlaab posted:

You talked about the base looking like the twin towers and how it was probably unintentional.

Well, maybe not.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/20/nier-drakengard-creator-says-nier-inspired-9-11/ (spoilers)


The way it's inspired by 9/11 might be a little spoiler-y so I'm not including it (it's in the article, as are some other significant spoilers, so read at your own risk), but there is a pretty good reason.

I specifically didn't mention this because it has to do with NieR and not Drakengard. It'll come up eventually though, I promise.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


:synthy: Update Time! :synthy:





Whew, we finally made it out of the forest! But before we get a chance to sit down and drink a cup of hot cocoa we already get embroiled in another adventure. It seems like Yonah has gotten in contact with the owner of the creepy mansion near Seafront, and they desperately need our help! So we're gonna head over there to meet--among others--my favourite character in the whole game!

Heads up: the sound isn't super great in this episode. Ikwaylx had the washing machine going in the background and it ended up doing a number on his commentary track. I did my best to salvage it and while I ended up with something listenable, it's not perfect.


Documents:



Weapons & Weapon Stories:



quote:

Blade of Treachery

Level 1:
The two sisters were a perfect pair of walking mannequins.
In no way could you tell they were mechanical.
State of the art technology gave them the gift of life, of laughter, of joy, of satisfaction.
But, they could not cry.
They were never meant to cry.

Level 2:
Being mere dolls, they could not feel.
They could be sad, but not feel sadness.
Sadness was unknowable to them.
Even the death of a loved one, even as their creator succumbed to disease, they felt nothing.
As if their creator had just disappeared from the face of the earth.

Level 3:
One warm spring day, a stray cat approached and greeted them.
Covered in scars, riddled with disease and thin as a rail.
They took it in and cared for it.
"Ah, what a fuss."
Their tender care rejuvinated it, and in time it regained its health.
From that day on, that cat became a fixture in their daily lives.
Every day, it would beg for food, affection, and praise.
"Ah, what a fuss."

Level 4:
Winter's cold blew into the house as it staggered in from outside.
With a weak meow, the cat's strength slipped, and it fell limply to the floor.
The younger shook her again and again. The elder called for it again and again
But in the end, not a single cry, not a single response came.
Something in the twins, something deep in their hearts, broke.
And from that day on, they felt nothing at all.

JordanKai fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Sep 11, 2016

FicusArt
Dec 27, 2014

Why would I draw dudes when I could be drawing literally anything else?
Wow a cute fluffy spider comes up to check you out, doesn't attack, and goes off to do it's own thing, and you kill it? So rude.

AndwhatIseeisme
Mar 30, 2010

Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
Fun Shoe
Watching the update, I'm not sure whether you're being intentionally coy with something or if you are unintentionally making an error identifying something.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


AndwhatIseeisme posted:

Watching the update, I'm not sure whether you're being intentionally coy with something or if you are unintentionally making an error identifying something.

I can promise you that it's the former 99% of the time. :sax:

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

*snip*

Somebody fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Sep 11, 2016

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.



Nooo, that's a secret!! :ssh:

For now.


e: vvv Apology accepted. :shobon:

JordanKai fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Sep 11, 2016

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

I'm sorry.

Demicol
Nov 8, 2009

I caught up on the Nier episodes and figured I'd try playing Drakengard instead of watching the videos. Two levels in I realized it's one of the worst games I've played, so thanks for the plot videos, don't think I could suffer trough that game.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


The terrible gameplay is a vital part of the Drakengard experience. Think of it as a work of art rather than a game.

FailAtMagic
Apr 11, 2011

ultrafilter posted:

The terrible gameplay is a vital part of the Drakengard experience. Think of it as a work of art rather than a game.

Which is an excuse I would call bullshit on anyone else than Yoko Taro but..... it''s Yoko Taro.....

PhysicsFrenzy
May 30, 2011

this, too, is physics
Your drakengard talks got linked in the dark id's setsuna thread. what a great walk down memory lane :allears: I hope you do video summaries of the other games, you and Ickwalyx are really entertaining

A Sinister Rap posted:

Also I wonder if Ending B was ever intended to be the default/canon ending, though my only real basis for that is that the credits theme for B, Exhausted (Japanese) / Growing Wings (English) is the only song with vocals and basically turned into Drakengard's main theme, showing up in 2 and 3.

fairly certain Exhaustion only became the series leitmotif because it is amazing. here are the other versions, since they're all worth a listen:

Drakengard 2:
Growing Wings
On the Holy Land
The Broken Past

Drakengard 3:
Exhausted
Growing Wings (DLC)
? ? ? ? ?

the music in drakengard 3 isn't as consistently amazing as NieR's, but the soundtrack's still worth a listen to anyone enjoying the music in this lp (you should all be enjoying the music in this lp :colbert:) drakengard 2 has some really solid tracks as well, some of my favorites in the whole series

Hidingo Kojimba
Mar 29, 2010

Demicol posted:

I caught up on the Nier episodes and figured I'd try playing Drakengard instead of watching the videos. Two levels in I realized it's one of the worst games I've played, so thanks for the plot videos, don't think I could suffer trough that game.

You'll occasionally hear people (not here obviously, but in general) say that there's nothing more boring than watching somebody else play games. Drakengard proves this to be bullshit, because it's boring as hell to actually play but loving hilarious to watch someone else go through.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
For a second there when the color left the screen, I thought it was going to be a Saboteur segment and fight some National Socialists through explosions.

SpookBus
Aug 22, 2015
Not only is the story for this sword depressing, it has absolutely nothing to do with the sword, or even treachery in general!

Miz Kriss
Mar 17, 2009

It's only an avatar if the Cubs get swept.
No, Weiss, the pedo was in the first game.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


PhysicsFrenzy posted:

Your drakengard talks got linked in the dark id's setsuna thread. what a great walk down memory lane :allears: I hope you do video summaries of the other games, you and Ickwalyx are really entertaining

That is part of the plan, yes. Stay tuned! :ocelot:

SpookBus posted:

Not only is the story for this sword depressing, it has absolutely nothing to do with the sword, or even treachery in general!

Their hearts were betrayed. :(

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


:synthy: Update Time! :synthy:





Today we've got a bit of a rare case on our hands: just a sidequest video without a main update to accompany it. That's because this video is already quite long on its own and the next main update is going to be really long as well, so putting them together would be overkill. That said, I recommend watching this video even if you haven't been keeping up with the sidequest videos so far. It features the introduction of a new gameplay mechanic, the conclusion of a plot thread introduced in the main story, and one of the most :wtc: quest triggers I've ever seen in a video game. It's all good stuff, really.

Oh, and I went to check: fluorite sells for a mere 6000 gold on the market. I think that guy was full of it when he was talking about how valuable it is!


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SpookBus
Aug 22, 2015

JordanKai posted:

Their hearts were betrayed. :(

I concede.

ChorpSaway
Oct 9, 2012

At first I was :unsmith: because the girl from Desert Land was okay, then we went to Seafront and it was :smith: all the way down.

Wiggy Marie
Jan 16, 2006

Meep!
That Lighthouse Lady mission makes me so angry. They never told her the truth so she never had a chance to move on and maybe have a life otherwise.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Jordan, I just wanna say great work so far on this sad as hell game.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


:synthy: Update Time! :synthy:





On today's episode, all the really bad poo poo goes down.

The red book from last episode is called Grimoire Rubrum, by-the-way. This never really gets mentioned in the story itself.


Yonah's Diary Entries:



Research Reports:

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Petition to change thread title to "Great! I love basements!" - Let's Play NieR. That's right up there with "I should've been the one to fill you dark soul with light".

Fiendly
May 27, 2010

That's not right!

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

That's right up there with "I should've been the one to fill you dark soul with light".

Speaking of which, Nier's just a few impalements away from being Dante himself.

AndwhatIseeisme
Mar 30, 2010

Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
Fun Shoe
So I guess Grimoire Noir's plan is to completely saturate the globe with shades?

Can we just take a moment to talk about how amazing all of the music in this update is? Nier in general has a pretty amazing soundtrack, but this section here is just a non-stop cavalcade of sonic bliss.

AndwhatIseeisme fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Oct 2, 2016

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






AndwhatIseeisme posted:

So I guess Grimoire Noir's plan is to completely saturate the globe with shades?
:dealwithit: If I had better art skills I'd plaster sunglasses over a screencap from the game, or at least give some to the Shadowlord.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
Back near the start of the game, Devola explained the meaning of the Song of the Ancients as telling the story of the White Book fighting the Black Book to save the world or some such. Fitting that it becomes the battle theme for this showdown.

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Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

I just love how desperate all this feels. When you're first playing, you obviously don't realise that, as long as you reduce its health to 1, everything will be fine. All you know is, this juggernaut Shade is headed to the library, you're little more than an inconvenience to it, but you're gonna make drat sure it will go no further. And then everything gets worse and worse with no sign of it stopping. You go from small moments of triumph as you keep hacking away at this titan, pummelling Grimoire Noire to get your spells back (which is so satisfying) to being utterly crushed as you realise it was all for nothing.

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