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Ryaomon posted:The real biggest issue was that people managed to kind of understand that with such a broad wealth of IPs to draw from your personal favorites may not get in immediately, and they still managed to have a super underwhelming roster. Who the hell wanted Gizmo or Morty? The first DLC season of the beta was two Gremlins, Rick, Morty (separate), and Black Adam How are you already running out of ideas
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 00:58 |
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# ? May 2, 2024 08:25 |
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As someone not playing Multiversus, two Gremlins as dlc is great imo. Very funny and cool
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 00:59 |
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Honestly its telling on yourself more to not be excited for Gremlins. Way better than most of the poo poo they put in there.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:01 |
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Yes, but like two characters in the same season?
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:02 |
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They should have put in Power Armor from the Fallout TV show
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:03 |
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Also the second season was Marvin the Martian and then they
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:04 |
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Rick and Morty: Boring choices. Risk-averse. Kind of a meme I guess. Suggests lack of creativity or personality from devs. Some WB board member suggested this for sure. Two Gremlins: Extremely strange choice. Exciting and weird. Devs getting strange with it, having fun. Why two? That's just nuts. I'm sure there was some niche Gremlins memes going around or something at the time of their release that would also make them also a boring choice, but not knowing poo poo it's very funny to me.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:08 |
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Black Adam: Dwayne Johnson personally asked us to do this
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:18 |
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I dont think they had a genuine strategy for DLC characters other than what they thought people wanted and what had Synergy(tm) but in the most corporate exec who does not understand customer experience kind of way.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:28 |
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Waffleman_ posted:Yes, but like two characters in the same season? Cole and Evil Cole
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:31 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:Cole and Evil Cole Infamous and God of War were the only two series to get more than one entrant and they went with this. Another roster that "makes sense" on paper but is garbage in practice especially thanks to the art style chosen.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:39 |
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"okay so smash has too many 'dude with sword' how do we capitalize on that" "have heaps of dude with gun" "BRILLIANT"
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:48 |
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though iirc superbot wanted to have more variation but sony had the final say
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:49 |
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Saying Cole and Evil Cole are the same character is beyond ignorant. Learn the lore man
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:50 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:though iirc superbot wanted to have more variation but sony had the final say The people demand the iconic, memorable, and beloved character "Big Daddy" from Bioshock a game only associated with Playstation. The roster is a mess of sensible and what the hell corporate why is our live service game dying we gave all the super heroes guns thinking. I also firmly believe one of the strengths of Smash is consistency of aesthetic and PABR couldn't clear that. I vaguely remember it being hideously unbalanced but not in a fun way, just like "hey this move you're required to use on your character is a total dud while that other ones cheaper option is superior to you in every way"
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 02:05 |
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Given how popular Super Smash Bros is, and the crazy good numbers MvS put up initially, it's shocking to me there haven't been more attempts at clones. Like why do they keep trying to make Destiny II and Fortnite? Are there just way more devs with shooter experience?
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 02:20 |
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Platform fighters are hard and also tough to get access to so much strong IP if you want the crossover factor.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 02:24 |
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It is way way easier to design a single player game with a loot treadmill than it is to design a fighting game that will land with enough of a mass audience to stick around.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 02:25 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Platform fighters are hard and also tough to get access to so much strong IP if you want the crossover factor. And sometimes that IP is shackled to a publisher literally named Game Mill that's too cheap for Voice Acting
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 03:08 |
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brawlhalla is apparently super popular even though i literally never see people play it or talk about it
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 03:24 |
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dragon enthusiast posted:brawlhalla is apparently super popular even though i literally never see people play it or talk about it Yeah, the audience for Not-Smash is playing Brawlhalla. Its also the only one of these that has a consistent aesthetic and one its imported characters from outside franchises have to comport to. Barudak fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Apr 13, 2024 |
# ? Apr 13, 2024 03:38 |
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I doin't think Multiversus is failing is due to a missing core to the crossover or whatever. It had a huge playerbase that bled out over time because the monetization and the balance was bad and getting worse all the time.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 04:55 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:big corpos absolutely don't care about jk rowling's transphobia lol you dont have to tell me they dont give a poo poo, i know, i literally said hogwarts legacy sold well were you just jumping up and down with joy at the thought of getting to go 'well actually nobody cares about transphobia' that you stopped reading halfway through
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 04:59 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:though iirc superbot wanted to have more variation but sony had the final say
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 05:02 |
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Blockhouse posted:I doin't think Multiversus is failing is due to a missing core to the crossover or whatever. It had a huge playerbase that bled out over time because the monetization and the balance was bad and getting worse all the time. I think it being a messy game with bad monetization and balance is an outgrowth of wanting an esports live service title first, coherent and appealing game second. But it is also just, flatly, not good Endorph posted:the funniest thing to come out of playstation all stars is the devs emailing square enix to go 'can we put cloud in this,' getting told no, waiting a week, then emailing them again to go 'okay what about squall tho' To be fair, I wouldn't have waited a week.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 05:20 |
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Didn't PSABR have the Bad Dante in it? Like they got Dante but the wrong one.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 05:52 |
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it had remake dante yeah to be fair though his game had just come out so capcom wouldnt have let them use actual dante, that one isnt really their fault
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 06:05 |
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It also had everyone's favorite MGS character: pre-Revengeance Raiden
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 06:09 |
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tbf it was revengeance raiden, the game just hadn't come out yet because he was there to promote it lol
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 06:13 |
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Waffleman_ posted:It also had everyone's favorite MGS character: pre-Revengeance Raiden To be fair, that was the closest they came to a third party character who was tied to playstation specifically since at least for a little while his, admittedly, prior game was exclusive to playstation, unlike all the others that launched multi-platform. The weirdest gap on the roster to me is no Ico or Wander. Edit: They had the guy(?) from Starhawk because it just came out the previous year but lol if anyone remembers that except my stupid rear end who rented it
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 06:17 |
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Cole being in SFxT is still the weirdest thing
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 06:52 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Cole being in SFxT is still the weirdest thing Potentially a trade off for getting Dante into Playstation Allstars but also, yes, lol.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Cole being in SFxT is still the weirdest thing I forgot that happened lol
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 06:56 |
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Barudak posted:To be fair, that was the closest they came to a third party character who was tied to playstation specifically since at least for a little while his, admittedly, prior game was exclusive to playstation, unlike all the others that launched multi-platform. I remember Starhawk but mostly because Warhawk is the first game on my trophies list and then I go "oh yeah i never got to play starhawk"
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 07:06 |
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Playing Killer Instinct and Blazblue on the go is kind of awesome, I really want sequels to both. kirbysuperstar posted:I remember Starhawk but mostly because Warhawk is the first game on my trophies list and then I go "oh yeah i never got to play starhawk" It and MAG were two games I played because I didnt want to play nothing but CoD multiplayer games and both were very bad. MAG frankly is one of the more misleading titles Ive ever played.
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 07:11 |
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Endorph posted:the funniest thing to come out of playstation all stars is the devs emailing square enix to go 'can we put cloud in this,' getting told no, waiting a week, then emailing them again to go 'okay what about squall tho' Barudak posted:To be fair, I wouldn't have waited a week. Every week the devs email Square and go down a list of characters until Square gives in: Cloud Cloud Tifa Cloud Sephiroth Cloud in a dress Squall okay fine Tidus
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 07:42 |
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It was wild learning that Cloud was supposed to be the guest character in Soulcalibur 2 but the deal fell through which is why they put in Heihachi instead
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 08:35 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:It was wild learning that Cloud was supposed to be the guest character in Soulcalibur 2 but the deal fell through which is why they put in Heihachi instead Guess whose also in Playstation Allstars....
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 09:01 |
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https://twitter.com/tabs_mvc/status/1779654922016842041?t=8WshRFbXUm2Op_hX3WWHAw&s=19
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The weirdest thing about Playstation All Stars Battle Royale's roster is that it didn't have Crash Bandicoot and Spyro. A mistake Smash Bros has now also made.
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