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 General Plot: Primarily set in the mid-twenty-first century in the fictional Japanese city of Niihama, Niihama Prefecture otherwise known as New Port City , the manga and the many anime adaptations follow the members of Public Security Section 9, a special-operations task-force made up of former military officers and police detectives. Political intrigue and counter-terrorism operations are standard fare for Section 9, but the various actions of corrupt officials, companies, and cyber-criminals in each scenario are unique and require the diverse skills of Section 9's staff to prevent a series of incidents from escalating. In this post-cyberpunk iteration of a possible future, computer technology has advanced to the point that many members of the public possess cyberbrains, technology that allows them to interface their biological brain with various networks. The level of cyberization varies from simple minimal interfaces to almost complete replacement of the brain with cybernetic parts, in cases of severe trauma. This can also be combined with various levels of prostheses, with a fully prosthetic body enabling a person to become a cyborg. The main character of Ghost in the Shell, Major Motoko Kusanagi, is such a cyborg, having had a terrible accident befall her as a child that ultimately required that she use a full-body prosthesis to house her cyberbrain. This high level of cyberization, however, opens the brain up to attacks from highly skilled hackers, with the most dangerous being those who will hack a person to bend to their whims. TL;DR; Japanese Shadowrun. Like a cleaner shadowrun and the government is a crazy backstabbing corporation. Where does this come from?  Masamune Shirow created the Ghost in the Shell manga(what Japanese call comics) series back in 1989.  It was turned into a anime movie (Ghost in the Shell) in 1995, some of you might remember this being in your local Blockbuster.  There was a sequel to this movie in name only(Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence) in 2004, that told a story from the manga.  It was also recreated into an anime series (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex) in 2002 that was pretty drat good. Followed by a second season ( Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG) and another anime movie(Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex - Solid State Society). This left the series in a weird way, so you know the cool thing to do.  Reboot the series! Ghost in the Shell: Arise released in 2013 and ended in 2014 and it also got its own movie (Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie (Jesus christ, they really put  in that name)) in 2015.TL;DR; Japanese comics makes Japanese comic book movies that America can take and use to make a movie. It worked for All you need is KILL! Edge of Tomorrow Cast and Characters: (most will prob be cut for a 2 hour movie)  The members of Section 9. From bottom left to top right: Paz, Borma, Saito, Batou, Motoko, Togusa, Aramaki, and Ishikawa Paz is an investigator in Section 9. Borma is Section 9's resident explosives specialist. Saito can handle any automatic firearm with deadly accuracy and precision, but his primary role is as the unit's tactical sniper. Batou is a main male character in the Ghost in the Shell series, recruited from the Rangers, the second best melee fighter in Section 9 and is the second in command under Major Motoko Kusanagi. Major Motoko Kusanagi is a cyborg in the employ of "Public Security Section 9", a fictional division of the real Japanese National Public Safety Commission, as the squad leader. Togusa is the only member of Section 9 who has not undergone cybernetic replacement in some manner as he had been referred to as 'natural'. Lt. Col. Daisuke Aramaki is the Chief Executive Director of Public Security Section 9. Ishikawa is the information warfare/technology specialist in Public Security Section 9. American movie stuff: I don't think its going to have as good as a plot or music as the anime series but it will be interesting to see what spin they try to do. Crappy released image for the movie.  There's no way the will be able to give screen time to all the characters. I bet they just rewrote up the 1995 movie's plot and made it more approachable for the average Supposed to be released on: March 31, 2017 Directed by: Rupert Sanders Produced by: Avi Arad, Steven Paul Written by: Jonathan Herman, Jamie Moss Starring: Scarlett Johansson, Pilou Asbęk, Michael Pitt Movie News: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/first-look-scarlett-johansson-in-anime-adaptation-ghost-in-the-shell-20160414 Update ufarn posted:Teaser trailer(s) out: Tomtrek posted:Full trailer has dropped: I really like this series. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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We already seen Scarlett Johansson naked in Under The Skin.
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Apr 14, 2016 21:37
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poo poo someone add 'again' in the title with forum magic.
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Apr 14, 2016 21:38
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Tenzarin posted:poo poo someone add 'again' in the title with forum magic. Owned! My work is done here.
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Apr 14, 2016 21:44
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I think I saw some leaked footage for this where the Major gets kidnapped by a hacker or something? e:found it Transferrins fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Apr 14, 2016 |
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Apr 14, 2016 21:59
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Tenzarin posted:Cast and Characters: (most will prob be cut for a 2 hour movie) Actually the press release Paramount put out today lists five actors playing members of Section 9 (no mention of who's playing who though), and Motoko, Batou and Aramaki's actors had already been announced awhile ago. Also despite initial reports that he was playing The Laughing Man apparently Michael Pitt is playing Kuze? This movie's probably gonna be bad but I'll still see it. Tenzarin posted:Crappy released image for the movie. 
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Apr 14, 2016 22:38
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TechnoSyndrome posted:Actually the press release Paramount put out today lists five actors playing members of Section 9 (no mention of who's playing who though), and Motoko, Batou and Aramaki's actors had already been announced awhile ago. Also despite initial reports that he was playing The Laughing Man apparently Michael Pitt is playing Kuze? This movie's probably gonna be bad but I'll still see it. Hang on The laughing Man and Kuze?!? this movie will not make any sense if they try to cram every single series into it. They should just do the Motoko merges with AI to create a god storyline.
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Tenzarin posted:Hang on The laughing Man and Kuze?!? this movie will not make any sense if they try to cram every single series into it. They should just do the Motoko merges with AI to create a god storyline. I don't know if it's because initial reports were wrong or if they're going to try to combine the two into one character, but it doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence. Still going to try to wait for a trailer to pass full judgement though, all we have is some character names and a brief explanation of Section 9.
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Apr 14, 2016 22:51
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TechnoSyndrome posted:I don't know if it's because initial reports were wrong or if they're going to try to combine the two into one character, but it doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence. Still going to try to wait for a trailer to pass full judgement though, all we have is some character names and a brief explanation of Section 9. Combining the corporate terrorist hacker The Laughing Man who wants the government to release the cure to cyber brain cancer and Kuze who wants the government to treat refugee's from the 3rd and 4th world war better even going as far as a rebellion with a nuclear weapon seems possible. But there's no way to pull off the motivation in 2 hours. Let alone to explain that Motoko and Kuze both knew each other when their families died in a airplane crash and they both got cyborg'd.
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Apr 14, 2016 22:57
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Tenzarin posted:poo poo someone add 'again' in the title with forum magic. You should have just said it was a joke, because between creepy assholes leaking her nudes and her being in Under the Skin, it's not like this is a revelation.
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Tenzarin posted:Combining the corporate terrorist hacker The Laughing Man who wants the government to release the cure to cyber brain cancer and Kuze who wants the government to treat refugee's from the 3rd and 4th world war better even going as far as a rebellion with a nuclear weapon seems possible. But there's no way to pull off the motivation in 2 hours. Let alone to explain that Motoko and Kuze both knew each other when their families died in a airplane crash and they both got cyborg'd. And also introduce Section 9, the world the film takes place in, and a bunch of stuff about cybernetic technology. Also it seems weird to me that they wouldn't just stick with one storyline so they have more sequels to make if the movie is successful. Laughing Man movie > Individual 11 movie > hybrid of Ghost in the Shell 95 & Solid State Society would have been a pretty obvious trilogy when planning for the movie in pre-production I'd think.
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They need to just draw Batou in because I don't think they will find anyone good enough to play him. Wonder if they will give him the plug eyes and some how pull that off without explaining that. Aramaki is pretty easy, hes just some old guy with a wolverine haircut.
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Apr 14, 2016 23:25
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While it sounds like they are trying to do way too much at once, at least it seems like the TV show is the main inspiration which is by far the best version of GiTS.
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I just want to weigh in here and say I've loved the series since 1995 too (didn't really read much of the manga) and I just can't see a way they'll make this anything but crap. GiTS was always an unpleasant, philosophical and extremely violent world. They won't be able to capture any of that in ~90 minutes. Same goes for all the characters, as people have already mentioned. They'll probably end up simplifying them into mere plot devices. says they Disney-fy the basic premise and go on to commit countless plot blunders until they churn out another "robot-fight!" holoporn.e. IShallRiseAgain posted:While it sounds like they are trying to do way too much at once, at least it seems like the TV show is the main inspiration which is by far the best version of GiTS. I don't know which TV show you mean, but I'll always love the first movie the best. phasmid fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 03:33
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I'm cautiously excited, and they seem to have nailed the look and feel at the very least. I just can't see them doing justice to the philosophical musings...although re-watching the series I would be ok with a condensed version of them as long as it doesn't come out hackneyed (it will  ). Story sometimes took a backseat to the musings and it made it kind of a chore to watch.Best case is it goes the Blade Runner route, nailing the look and minimizing the philosophy to a digestible chunk. I just know it won't do justice to the platonic ideal of their golden anime god fans have in their heads, so I can't wait for the years of bitching that will follow. Still don't get why they went with ScarJo over an actual Japanese person 
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Tenzarin posted:Combining the corporate terrorist hacker The Laughing Man who wants the government to release the cure to cyber brain cancer and Kuze who wants the government to treat refugee's from the 3rd and 4th world war better even going as far as a rebellion with a nuclear weapon seems possible. But there's no way to pull off the motivation in 2 hours. Let alone to explain that Motoko and Kuze both knew each other when their families died in a airplane crash and they both got cyborg'd. I bet that either a) the meat of the movie will be Kuza/Kusanagi character development with the Laughing Man stuff being maybe the first third or so as a way to establish the characters/setting or b) Kuza's plot is mostly sequel setup The actual Laughing Man stuff could be condensed and simplified without losing too much. Much more straightforward than remaking the first movie too. Also Michael Pitt is great Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 04:03
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It worked out for Edge of Tomorrow, even though the whole story was greatly changed. They fight the entire war in Edge of Tomorrow, in the comic its only a single battle that keeps on looping.
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TechnoSyndrome posted:And also introduce Section 9, the world the film takes place in, and a bunch of stuff about cybernetic technology. Also it seems weird to me that they wouldn't just stick with one storyline so they have more sequels to make if the movie is successful. Laughing Man movie > Individual 11 movie > hybrid of Ghost in the Shell 95 & Solid State Society would have been a pretty obvious trilogy when planning for the movie in pre-production I'd think. Yeah, it's odd because it seems to limit the franchise potential of the series. It's weird they'd shot themselves in the foot like this, because of the film succeeds it's that much harder to do a sequel.
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Apr 15, 2016 06:29
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Doesn't Masamune Shirow draw straight-up porn now
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Improbable Lobster posted:I bet that either Seems to me it would be foolhardy to plan for a sequel when they have no idea how this one's going to turn out. To capture the unique creature of a good GiTS movie is a daunting task. If you add a bunch of studio nabobs trying to spit out more and more like sausage links, the movie will probably slip off that tightrope towards "faithful and well executed" into "gun movie boob have girl make bomb robot action go". Adding Kuze does seem like they want to do the origin story thing, but that's a hell of a lot to ask of audiences worldwide who are gonna see no fewer than 15 goddamn iterations of Katniss Everdeen "backstory" to chew through between now and 2017. Motoko is cool because she's the quiet type - changing her inner narration would change the whole feel. Besides, Kuze was only a major character in SAC 2. Other than that, he was just an ancillary character in the movie Solid State Society (maybe? the ending was bizarre as hell).
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Apr 15, 2016 09:18
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Americanized Ghost In The Shell seems like an incredibly bad idea.
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HorseLord posted:Americanized Ghost In The Shell seems like an incredibly bad idea. Think of it as Lost in Translation 2.
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Apr 15, 2016 11:15
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Corek posted:Doesn't Masamune Shirow draw straight-up porn now I've seen very little proof that Shirow is not just a guy who loves drawing porn who stumbled into something brilliant, rather than the Japanese Alan Moore.
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Apr 15, 2016 11:18
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Wasn't there some big deal about how the 'ghost' is the computer data version of the person's brain, and the Major doesn't even have a human brain anymore? She's a complete robot that used to be a human, then a human brain with a robot body, and now just a robot body run by a program that used to be a human brain? Wasn't that where all the philosophical weight came from?
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Apr 15, 2016 11:23
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Corek posted:Doesn't Masamune Shirow draw straight-up porn now Literal child porn too, going by an anime he made recently with the Excel Saga writer who appeared out of the aether after like 16 years. I don't know how bad it ended up being but it looked bad enough nobody sane would touch it with a pole for fear of the FBI https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_in_the_Crimson_Shell:_Ghost_Urn
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Has the OP forgotten about Ghost in the Shell: Innocence, which is a great combination of eastern philosophy + anime noir? It's actually a better film than the original in certain respects, although perhaps not in terms of a cohesive narrative..
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icantfindaname posted:Literal child porn too, going by an anime he made recently with the Excel Saga writer who appeared out of the aether after like 16 years. I don't know how bad it ended up being but it looked bad enough nobody sane would touch it with a pole for fear of the FBI I'm not gonna lie, if someone tried to tell me that this was a blatant parody of Ghost in the Shell (Pandora in the Crimson Shell? Really?) I'd probably believe them, but I also wouldn't do any research to back that up for fear that I was wrong and it was just creepy poo poo. edit: is the new series any good? I feel like having two movies and a couple of short seasons of a show all being good, despite being fairly unrelated (and the second movie/show being made like 20 years after the first) is really pushing someone's luck, and the odds are against the new one being any good, but I also don't follow anime at all, so I am just talking out my rear end here.
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Yoshifan823 posted:edit: is the new series any good? I feel like having two movies and a couple of short seasons of a show all being good, despite being fairly unrelated (and the second movie/show being made like 20 years after the first) is really pushing someone's luck, and the odds are against the new one being any good, but I also don't follow anime at all, so I am just talking out my rear end here. Not really no. It's not unwatchably bad but it's not nearly as good as SAC. I've never been a huge fan of GitS in any iteration though so maybe it's just me.
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I really love Ghost in the Shell and its sequel, and the series Stand Alone Complex. It's really frustrating to me to see such a horrible looking unfaithful adaptation of the anime. The least Hollywood could have done was hire all Japanese actors, cause you know the characters in the anime are kinda all Japanese and they live in Tokyo. Instead for some reason we get an entire cast of all white Americans??? I lost a lot of respect for Scarlett Johansson, she is just as responsible for accepting a role she knows she has no business being in. Hollywood really needs to be forced to be more responsible with the art it decides to steal.
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I wish they'd have gotten a better director for this
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this was almost as bad an idea as the long-suffering Akira live action movie in development hell. I might be less nonplussed at the fact Johansson is in this at all than the fact she's a white lady. I mean whatever if it's going to gently caress up the location and all, but I don't think ScarJo is very talented, like at all. How many successful live-action animes have been made for American audiences? Cowboy Bebop and Akira are shelved and the DBZ film was garbage.
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Yaws posted:I wish they'd have gotten a better director for this Just straight up not making this movie period is the only acceptable outcome.
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I like Scarlett Johansson and Ghost in the Shell and Takeshi Kitano so I think this might be good.
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I said come in! posted:Just straight up not making this movie period is the only acceptable outcome. Worst case scenario: It's bad and we can ignore it. Uncle Boogeyman posted:I like Scarlett Johansson and Ghost in the Shell and Takeshi Kitano so I think this might be good. The only feature length film the director has to his credit is Snow White and the Huntsman.
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Yaws posted:The only feature length film the director has to his credit is Snow White and the Huntsman. how was that?
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:how was that? Utterly forgettable.
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Yaws posted:Utterly forgettable. eh. maybe this one'll be good, it's based off something cooler than Snow White.
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Seems crazy that they didn't cast Rinko Kikuchi for this, she would have been the perfect actress to play Kusanagi.
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icantfindaname posted:Literal child porn too, going by an anime he made recently with the Excel Saga writer who appeared out of the aether after like 16 years. I don't know how bad it ended up being but it looked bad enough nobody sane would touch it with a pole for fear of the FBI Funimation licensed it for North America and pretty sure its just his style in a adult swim friendly show.
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Wulfolme posted:Wasn't there some big deal about how the 'ghost' is the computer data version of the person's brain, and the Major doesn't even have a human brain anymore? She's a complete robot that used to be a human, then a human brain with a robot body, and now just a robot body run by a program that used to be a human brain? Wasn't that where all the philosophical weight came from? She has a human brain but that's the only human part. A big part of the first film was her having an existential crisis and starting to doubt whether she was ever actually a human.
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