Carmant posted:

Idk what Mary Sue is but I bet it's something really stupid and meaningless like cuck because gokns really love to use it

whoflungpoop posted:

you dont have to be smart to understand ulysses

but you do have to study it and gain familiarity with his references (read:entire western canon) and and treat it like almost like something to be researched before you come to see that yeah wow this really is deep and has stuff pinging on things and levels that you couldnt see at first and draws all of it together into the context of his time and ireland and then its like wow yeah dude im starting to get it there's actually a substantive and uniquely powerful beauty behind what at first might look like madness

if you dont want to it then dont cuz yeah its a lot of work if you dont really care but like anything else in the world it isnt about smarts its about getting out what you put in

whoflungpoop posted:

when its in literature its an author surrogate

when its an undersexed catlady writing about her and dr who fuckin its a mary sue

Cuckoo posted:

I took an entire college course on this rear end in a top hat. We went over every deeper meaning possible, learned about the state of Ireland at the tine, etc. Joyce's works are still dense joyless slogs. Those letters are the only entertaining thing he ever wrote

Nanomashoes posted:

lol if you think loving Dubliners is dense or a slog.

Doctor Schnabel posted:

lemme ask ya this, bucko: would you like to have a nice beer and an enjoyable time with some dummies, or a discussion about modernist lit with ozma?

Sheep-Goats posted:

This is the kind of poo poo you say once at a party and no one wants to talk to you afterwards.

Cuckoo posted:

I took an entire college course on this rear end in a top hat. We went over every deeper meaning possible, learned about the state of Ireland at the tine, etc. Joyce's works are still dense joyless slogs. Those letters are the only entertaining thing he ever wrote

Joyce posted:

Lowly, longly, a wail went forth. Pure Yawn lay low. On the
mead of the hillock lay, heartsoul dormant mid shadowed land-
shape, brief wallet to his side, and arm loose, by his staff of citron
briar, tradition stick-pass-on. His dream monologue was over,
of cause, but his drama parapolylogic had yet to be, affact. Most
distressfully (but, my dear, how successfully!) to wail he did,
his locks of a lucan tinge, quickrich, ripely rippling, unfilleted,
those lashbetasselled lids on the verge of closing time, whiles
ouze of his sidewiseopen mouth the breath of him, evenso
languishing as the princeliest treble treacle or lichee chewchow
purse could buy. Yawn in a semiswoon lay awailing and (hooh!)
what helpings of honeyful swoothead (phew!), which ear-
piercing dulcitude! As were you suppose to go and push with
your bluntblank pin in hand upinto his fleshasplush cushionettes
of some chubby boybold love of an angel. Hwoah!

Oyak posted:

I liked the description of the ocean at the start of Ulysses. Who can forget the "snotgreen scrotum-tightening sea?"

Cuckoo posted:

I took an entire college course on this rear end in a top hat. We went over every deeper meaning possible, learned about the state of Ireland at the tine, etc. Joyce's works are still dense joyless slogs. Those letters are the only entertaining thing he ever wrote

Doctor Schnabel posted:

heyoooooo

naem posted:

Cuckoo posted:

I took an entire college course on this rear end in a top hat. We went over every deeper meaning possible, learned about the state of Ireland at the tine, etc. Joyce's works are still dense joyless slogs. Those letters are the only entertaining thing he ever wrote

Doctor Schnabel posted:

god that dude was into all the worst words

Your Dead Gay Son posted:

Can you loving imagine the aneurysms and strokes people who read the first printing of Ulysses experienced when they were still huffing dickens and melville.

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

I notice that you didn't refute that it was joyless.

nomadologique posted:

sometimes holding your head under water is a good and euphoric thing to do dipshit

st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

Hm, yes I've got an encyclopedic knowledge of all of the great works of western art, literature and culture over the last two thousand years and I can speak fluent English, Italian, German, French, Latin and Greek let me use all of those to make an unintelligible mess about farts and looking at naked statues and jerking off in a latrine which will be the apex of the written word for the next century.

st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

Hm, yes I've got an encyclopedic knowledge of all of the great works of western art, literature and culture over the last two thousand years and I can speak fluent English, Italian, German, French, Latin and Greek let me use all of those to make an unintelligible mess about farts and looking at naked statues and jerking off in a latrine which will be the apex of the written word for the next century.

st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

Hm, yes I've got an encyclopedic knowledge of all of the great works of western art, literature and culture over the last two thousand years and I can speak fluent English, Italian, German, French, Latin and Greek let me use all of those to make an unintelligible mess about farts and looking at naked statues and jerking off in a latrine which will be the apex of the written word for the next century.

mdm posted:

uhhh I don't think you "get" the western culture