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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

asdf32 posted:

Most people have already decided that being gay isn't a choice which is a shift that's accompanied many rights. For obvious reasons. Society doesn't support every whim and preference of every individual. The fundamental and innate nature of sexual preference is why society has and should write laws to support gay marriage and LGBT issues in general.

So if it were proven tomorrow that being gay is a choice after all, would it be okay to discriminate against gay people again?

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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Guavanaut posted:

LGBT rights in general are legitimized by not being pricks to LGBT people.

The idea that finding a 'gay gene' would suddenly legitimize LGBT issues is absurd. Let's say we find one. Cool, now let's say we develop a test you can pee on or put a blood sample on. Then let's give a few hundred thousand free to Uganda or Saudi Arabia or Faithful Word Baptist Church. What good exactly do you see coming from that?

Well the religious right would suddenly stop trying to ban abortions and it would become a woman's religious freedom and her right to choose :v:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Discrimination really doesn't seem to have much to do with whether or not the relevant factor is innate.

Religious affiliation is obviously not innate yet it was constitutionally protected from almost the founding of the USA, whereas skin color is innate yet de jure protection lagged by 100 years and de facto protection still isn't completely achieved.

The medical and psychological acceptance of homosexuality as within the normal spectrum of human sexuality had more to do with studies showing the prevailing theories that it was pathological were unsupported by evidence rather than by people coming to believe it's innate. Plenty of people believed it was innate but pathological and that gay people needed to be treated with drugs, electroshock, etc for their own good.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Man if you find yourself saying "I'm uneducated about $topic but I think.." maybe you should just shut up because nothing that comes after that could possibly be of any value to anyone in the universe.

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