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CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
so there's pretty much no reason to not release the autopsy reports unless the cops had something to do with this, right?

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
They could be inconclusive either way and/or not get released in the interests of protecting the surviving family members' privacy.

I mean what's the autopsy gonna reveal that you don't already know anyway; they were shot and killed while sleeping.

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3



Jesus christ, Like I knew there was a drug problem around here but I didn't realize how bad it has gotten.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

fyallm posted:

Cincinnati has Rhinegiest, MadTree, 50 West, a poo poo ton of other really good breweries, Kings Island, Coney Island, OTR, Hofbrauhaus, Krohn Conservatory, Chateau Laroche, NFL Team, MLB Team, USL Team (should move to MLS within 5-6 years), Big East Bball team, If UC ever moves into the Big 12 they will have that for football and basketball, Mediocre Art Museums, Music Hall, AND A STREET CAR.

I use to rag on Cincy and Ohio as a whole, then I started traveling for my job and realized it isn't as bad as I thought.

YEah, a lot of people ask me "why did you move to Ohio?" I always reply with "have you been to Kansas?"

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

girth brooks part 2 posted:

:confused: I grew up there and don't know what that is. Is that the thing where everyone knows they're a bunch of toothless ignorant hillbillies, but doesn't give a poo poo because everyone else manages to be just as bad but without the self awareness? Or is it just that thing we're I'm culturally obligated to crank up the volume whenever the Daredevil's are playing?

whole lotta trailer trash who dont give a poo poo because they are proud of it, or at least lack the self awareness to care. but i'd much rather be around people who are caught up in their own bullshit even if it is dumb than people caught up in external bullshit. white trash is bad but what is worse is nuevo riche trailer trash one generation removed that thinks spending $250 on fake nails and buying a crossover with a ~coexist~ bumper sticker gives them a level of sophistication.

mudding might be dumb as gently caress but you have a whole bunch of people with poo poo they built loving around, compared to a bunch of pricks getting together in their 12x12 suburban backyard and drinking straw-ber-rita while everyone is desperately trying to convince everyone (including themselves) that they aren't blue collar

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
maybe the cop gently kissed and licked all the bullets before firing them

maybe they shot a pattern of bullets that spelled out "sheriff joe did this"

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"

Moridin920 posted:

They could be inconclusive either way and/or not get released in the interests of protecting the surviving family members' privacy.

I mean what's the autopsy gonna reveal that you don't already know anyway; they were shot and killed while sleeping.

Toxicology reports, further elaboration on the 'bruising' found on some of the bodies. It's rumored that maybe torture was invoved and the police don't want the public in a panic or uproar.

Or, yeah, since literally every vehicle and even the crime scenes themselves were towed away, LE had something to do with it. As mentioned earlier, one ex-deputy is awaiting trial on two murders,one commited with the prosecutors gun

Dr.Caligari fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 7, 2016

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


CharlestonJew posted:

so there's pretty much no reason to not release the autopsy reports unless the cops had something to do with this, right?
either incompetence or implying people they don't want to piss off, either one works

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
My heart is in ooooohhhhiiiioooo

http://www.fox19.com/story/33071367/mystery-heart-found-in-field-in-norwalk?clienttype=generic

naem
May 29, 2011


vanmpires

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
I would seriously be quizzing the guy that 'found' that. I'm not sure how urban of an area it was found in, but I don't see such a easily found and hearty (lol) snack being passed up by animals overnight

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating

Dr.Caligari posted:

I would seriously be quizzing the guy that 'found' that. I'm not sure how urban of an area it was found in, but I don't see such a easily found and hearty (lol) snack being passed up by animals overnight

A good post.

Gamer With Dignity
May 15, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dr.Caligari posted:

Toxicology reports, further elaboration on the 'bruising' found on some of the bodies. It's rumored that maybe torture was invoved and the police don't want the public in a panic or uproar.

Or, yeah, since literally every vehicle and even the crime scenes themselves were towed away, LE had something to do with it. As mentioned earlier, one ex-deputy is awaiting trial on two murders,one commited with the prosecutors gun

Oh wow.

The_Book_Of_Harry
Apr 30, 2013

Anderron Shi posted:

A good post for throwing the cops off Dr. Caligari's trail.

Antifa Sarkeesian
Jun 4, 2009

yo les digo que no, que no soy la madre de nadie, pero que, eso si, los conozco a todos, a todos los jóvenes poetas del DF, a los que nacieron aquí y a los que llegaron de provincias, y a los que el oleaje trajo de otros lugares de Latinoamérica, y que los quiero a todos
okay so i've read this whole thread and i think there's something to the fake money story. i think they were probably getting hard drugs middle-manned and paid with counterfeit cash. their connect then gave it to the mexicans who then got pissed. mexican cartel dudes usually only deal with other mexicans so it's usually their own families, distant or not who physically deal the drugs in the U.S. a large amount of cash shorted to them is pretty much the only thing that'll get them to act across borders like that.

here in my hometown this crew of black drug dealers were shipping heroin from here to philly via USPS. an 80,000 dollar package got seized by the postal inspectors. the crew's connect here in town, a mexican family, basically told them that if they didn't give them the 80,000 dollars (they were fronting the crew the package), they were going to doxx the whole crew to "the peoples in mexico" who would come and kill them all. the drug dealers realized they were hosed so they pushed their way through the front door of the house of the mexican family connect one night and tied everyone up, stabbed them to death and then lit the place on fire. they're all in prison now i think.

dookifex_maximus
Aug 10, 2016

by zen death robot
how are peace talks going in the midwest?

Risky
May 18, 2003

What do I change my FB profile pic to show that I care?

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating

Panda Bear posted:


here in my hometown this crew of black drug dealers were shipping heroin from here to philly via USPS. an 80,000 dollar package got seized by the postal inspectors. the crew's connect here in town, a mexican family, basically told them that if they didn't give them the 80,000 dollars (they were fronting the crew the package), they were going to doxx the whole crew to "the peoples in mexico" who would come and kill them all. the drug dealers realized they were hosed so they pushed their way through the front door of the house of the mexican family connect one night and tied everyone up, stabbed them to death and then lit the place on fire. they're all in prison now i think.

that's wild

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"

Risky posted:

What do I change my FB profile pic to show that I care?

A rebel flag that says REBEL across it


Panda Bear posted:

here in my hometown this crew of black drug dealers were shipping heroin from here to philly via USPS. an 80,000 dollar package got seized by the postal inspectors. the crew's connect here in town, a mexican family, basically told them that if they didn't give them the 80,000 dollars (they were fronting the crew the package), they were going to doxx the whole crew to "the peoples in mexico" who would come and kill them all. the drug dealers realized they were hosed so they pushed their way through the front door of the house of the mexican family connect one night and tied everyone up, stabbed them to death and then lit the place on fire. they're all in prison now i think.

Wouldn't they just be super hosed then? It's not like prison is out of a crime organization's reach. I'm sure the murdering dealers have family on the outside.

You might be onto something with the counterfeit money. Honestly the family had their fingers in so many illegal pies it would be very difficult to nail down which one it was. Counterfeit money, drugs, having no criminal records despite their lifestyle (CI's?), cars which may or may not have been part of a chop shop, cockfighting, dogfighting, phantom LLC's set up by various family members for possible for money laundering.. the list goes on and on.

This $4 million dollar pot operation was also busted a few months ago. Possibly uncovered during the Rhodens investigation. The only thing I think it proves for sure is that someone has some serious money to invest in drugs in the area. They had a freakin bank vault door installed at the entrance to there underground grow op. Can you even legally buy a bank vault door, and who constructed the whole thing, yet alone worked harvesting it?

It certainly looks like some major players are either moving into the area, or are just now having the curtain pulled back some. If the whole story ever comes to light I think there will be some locally well known names involved, and most certainly some LE. No I don't have any proof, it's just something that wouldn't surprise me from growing up and living around here

Dr.Caligari fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Sep 17, 2016

Antifa Sarkeesian
Jun 4, 2009

yo les digo que no, que no soy la madre de nadie, pero que, eso si, los conozco a todos, a todos los jóvenes poetas del DF, a los que nacieron aquí y a los que llegaron de provincias, y a los que el oleaje trajo de otros lugares de Latinoamérica, y que los quiero a todos

Dr.Caligari posted:


Wouldn't they just be super hosed then? It's not like prison is out of a crime organization's reach. I'm sure the murdering dealers have family on the outside.

You might be onto something with the counterfeit money. Honestly the family had their fingers in so many illegal pies it would be very difficult to nail down which one it was. Counterfeit money, drugs, having no criminal records despite their lifestyle (CI's?), cars which may or may not have been part of a chop shop, cockfighting, dogfighting, phantom LLC's set up by various family members for possible for money laundering.. the list goes on and on.

This $4 million dollar pot operation was also busted a few months ago. Possibly uncovered during the Rhodens investigation. The only thing I think it proves for sure is that someone has some serious money to invest in drugs in the area. They had a freakin bank vault door installed at the entrance to there underground grow op. Can you even legally buy a bank vault door, and who constructed the whole thing, yet alone worked harvesting it?

I think they probably figured they would get away with it. The daughter of the mexican family was the only survivor (besides a 4-year-old that was presumably spared), but was on life support and died a few months later. the same day she died the house actually caught fire again because of (supposed) squatters. Anyway, they really might have gotten away with it if the package hadn't been seized. They were able to identify the ringleader of the crew from CCTV footage at the post office and marshals picked them all up in philly. but yeah, i won't be surprised if their number comes up and the mexicans (sureños or whatever local gang might be in lockup or prison with them) catch them slipping. they are surely marked.

crazy about the bank vault for that grow op. i wonder what the extent of what was stolen was.

some of you guys have mentioned chop shops that are fronts for laundering money; how does that work? i'm ignorant about that.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Dr.Caligari posted:

This $4 million dollar pot operation was also busted a few months ago. Possibly uncovered during the Rhodens investigation. The only thing I think it proves for sure is that someone has some serious money to invest in drugs in the area. They had a freakin bank vault door installed at the entrance to there underground grow op. Can you even legally buy a bank vault door, and who constructed the whole thing, yet alone worked harvesting it?

I'm sure you can legally buy a vault door. It's not that unusual for rich/paranoid people to want a vault or safe room, and plenty of high value businesses decide to have a vault store room rather than stuffing everything in a safe.

The redneck version would probably involve a salvaged door from a bank branch that had closed or upgraded tho. I used to work in a gift shop that had been a bank decades earlier, and there was still a vault in the basement (we stored excess candy stock in there). If you had connections in construction and salvage it probably wouldn't be that hard to come across a salvaged bank vault door for little more than the scrap price.

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"

Panda Bear posted:

some of you guys have mentioned chop shops that are fronts for laundering money; how does that work? i'm ignorant about that.

I know there is someone more knowledgable than me that can explain it, but while chop shops and money laundering happen together they are seperate activities. There is some kind of title wizardry one can do to where a irl perfectly fine car has insurance claimed on it (as if its totalled) , then it's chopped and its vin number and parts used on different cars. With todays tracking abilities I'm not sure if the re-using of vin numbers still happens or is possible, I wouldn't think so..

Wholesale car auctions, used car lots and car transport are all one big racket from what I gather, and is where money laundring because possible. Used car lots and auctions can falsify numbers and the companies are fly-by-night by there nature. Car transport is thee way to transport drugs or 'hot' money. Just load up your contraband into the gas tank and fenders, load it onto a transport semi with other cars and send it cross country.

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

Panda Bear posted:

I think they probably figured they would get away with it. The daughter of the mexican family was the only survivor (besides a 4-year-old that was presumably spared), but was on life support and died a few months later. the same day she died the house actually caught fire again because of (supposed) squatters. Anyway, they really might have gotten away with it if the package hadn't been seized. They were able to identify the ringleader of the crew from CCTV footage at the post office and marshals picked them all up in philly. but yeah, i won't be surprised if their number comes up and the mexicans (sureños or whatever local gang might be in lockup or prison with them) catch them slipping. they are surely marked.

They'll be lucky if the cartels return the favor of sparing their youngest children. Everyone they know is hosed.

Thots and Prayers
Jul 13, 2006

A is the for the atrocious abominated acts that YOu committed. A is also for ass-i-nine, eight, seven, and six.

B, b, b - b is for your belligerent, bitchy, bottomless state of affairs, but why?

C is for the cantankerous condition of our character, you have no cut-out.
Grimey Drawer
Print poo poo get hit

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
AND we're back..

I will try my best to catch you up on the going-on's since the died a GBS death.

To catch up, The Cincinnati Enquirer had sued Pike County to have the autopsies of the murdered family of 8 released. The Ohio AG as well as Pike co were against this, saying that disclosing this information would severely hamper the investigation. The case was sent to mediation.

What we got from that is a Heavy redacted autopsy reports
And the coroner's also Heavy redacted report

Needless to say, the Enquirer wasn't happy with this, and are proceeding with the case. Despite my prestigious internet Dr. title, I am not a real doctor or even close, so I couldn't make much from the autopsy reports. If one of you much wiser individuals spot anything odd, please do share.


Some other developments:

Fox19 did a report where they continuously visited the parking lot of warehouse where the Rhoden trailers and camper is kept. No security was ever seen, and according to them, just anyone could approach the homes. I personally think this is junk article, as Dewine has stated any 'good' evidence is stored elsewhere, and the properties are being kept in a warehouse to protect the contents for whoever inherits them, as well as possible preservation for a jury walk through. But at this point, I don't see a judge making a jury walk through a bloodsplatter tin can that has had no circulation or climate control for over 6 months...

Sheriff Reader says that he believes the perp(s) are local. AG Dewine doesn't agree, and says this is speculation and not an investigatory finding.

Some other new facts and rumors;

Kenneth Rhoden's daughter, Kendra was suppose to have a sleepover the night with Hannah Gilley of this fateful night. She was with her boyfriend as they followed Hannah in her red Jeep. On the way, both her boyfriend gets a 'toothache' , and she gets a call about a babysitting gig she can't pass up. She pulls a U-Turn and goes back home source

Miranda Gilley, was also suppose to stay with Hannah, and changed her mind.

Hannah also sent her oldest daughter to stay with her dad, unplanned, that same night at 10:30PM

Donald Stone, another cousin, was suppose to spend the night at Kenny's camper. He ends up not going to Kenny's or spending the night.

Brandon Rhoden, who lived within the same area did not spend the night at his home this night

So that's 5 people changing there mind at the last minute. Maybe they are all interconnected and just a coincidence, but food for thought none the less

Another plot hole is that Donald Stone said him and Kenny were planning to get up early and go to a car auction. His daughter Kendra said he was to get up at 4AM and left for his job over an hour away in Columbus. Either way, neither of these people, nor any of the other family decided to check on Kenny until 1:30PM, even though 7 family members were discovered dead around 7AM. Kenny, you recall, was also found 10 miles away from the other crime scenes and only shot once in the face. I am very curious to if the bullet used on him matches any of the other bullets..but this isn't something LE is talking about obviously.

Here are some good links for those wanting more info, or a wider picture of what occurred as we know..

Umbrella of Suspicion Pt.1 Before the Murders - Most accurate timeline I could find, plus link to the YT 911 calls and other good info
Umbrella of Suspicion Pt. 2 The Murders
Pike Co: Death In The Foothills - A really good piece from the Enquirer

Now, I had mentioned before about corruption and shadiness in Pike Co politics, such as the ex-deputy who killed two people, one using the prosecutor's gun AFTER the first murder

Well, now this is pure gossip, and quite possibly the bitter lies of an ex-junkie who feels like he was wronged by LE... OR not.. Either way this following post was made by a Pike County local to his own Facebook page in regards to Sheriff Reader saying the killers were local:

FB maniac posted:

Uh DUH!!!!! Sheriff Charley Reader, and his good squad (Pike Co. Sherff's Deputies) are the culprits here. As a former drug user and having been deeply connected to various well known, high traffic, seriously well connected individuals in the local, state, and federal drug syndicates, I happen to know for a fact and have information that if I were to open my mouth would seriously cause federal scrutiny upon the Pike County law enforcement. I happen to know for a fact and know a few other people who actually have proof that former Pike County Sheriff's Larry Travis and Rick Henderson took bribery payments and protection money from several local well to do drug families. The Rhoden family is, rather was just one, of these families. Another family is the <snip> family, who happens to have out of state and out of country mafia ties. These families were forced to pay the Pike county sheriff's office money in order for them to continue selling drugs in their county. When current crime ring ruler/leader (Sheriff Reader) took office he raised the amount of money that he and the department requested from these families. It just so happens, and I can prove that the Rhoden's refused to be blackmailed anymore and refused to pay the increased protection money to Sheriff Reader and when the amount of time elapsed they were given to pay up (Their deadline, was 4-20-2016)(Conveniently, international pot smoking day) 2 days later the Sheriff and various members of his hit squad took action and killed the entire Rhoden family, except for the 1 baby. Which just so happens, to know be indirectly in custody of Sheriff Reader's family. Lesson here, the biggest criminals in our area are the law enforcement. This wont come as a surprise to anyone with an open mind, a knowledge of local politics, and/or any connection to any part of the local drug trade. I am taking a huge risk mentioning this and should anything happen to me, I am actually as of tomorrow morning going to take steps to ensure that various evidence could be released.

A very dangerous thing to post I would say, especially when he 'checks-in' at home on FB and has pictures of his kids on it. Chris Graves from the Enquirer commented on this post and said "DM me please", and the next morning his Facebook was scrubbed and set to private. Some really crazy stuff going on in this case, and it keeps getting weirder...

Dr.Caligari fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Oct 28, 2016

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


I happen to know for a fact!

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
tl;dr

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Dr.Caligari posted:

AND we're back..
This is going to end well. :tinfoil:

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Dr.Caligari posted:

AND we're back..

I will try my best to catch you up on the going-on's since the died a GBS death.

To catch up, The Cincinnati Enquirer had sued Pike County to have the autopsies of the murdered family of 8 released. The Ohio AG as well as Pike co were against this, saying that disclosing this information would severely hamper the investigation. The case was sent to mediation.

What we got from that is a Heavy redacted autopsy reports
And the coroner's also Heavy redacted report

Needless to say, the Enquirer wasn't happy with this, and are proceeding with the case. Despite my prestigious internet Dr. title, I am not a real doctor or even close, so I couldn't make much from the autopsy reports. If one of you much wiser individuals spot anything odd, please do share.


Some other developments:

Fox19 did a report where they continuously visited the parking lot of warehouse where the Rhoden trailers and camper is kept. No security was ever seen, and according to them, just anyone could approach the homes. I personally think this is junk article, as Dewine has stated any 'good' evidence is stored elsewhere, and the properties are being kept in a warehouse to protect the contents for whoever inherits them, as well as possible preservation for a jury walk through. But at this point, I don't see a judge making a jury walk through a bloodsplatter tin can that has had no circulation or climate control for over 6 months...

Sheriff Reader says that he believes the perp(s) are local. AG Dewine doesn't agree, and says this is speculation and not an investigatory finding.

Some other new facts and rumors;

Kenneth Rhoden's daughter, Kendra was suppose to have a sleepover the night with Hannah Gilley of this fateful night. She was with her boyfriend as they followed Hannah in her red Jeep. On the way, both her boyfriend gets a 'toothache' , and she gets a call about a babysitting gig she can't pass up. She pulls a U-Turn and goes back home source

Miranda Gilley, was also suppose to stay with Hannah, and changed her mind.

Hannah also sent her oldest daughter to stay with her dad, unplanned, that same night at 10:30PM

Donald Stone, another cousin, was suppose to spend the night at Kenny's camper. He ends up not going to Kenny's or spending the night.

Brandon Rhoden, who lived within the same area did not spend the night at his home this night

So that's 5 people changing there mind at the last minute. Maybe they are all interconnected and just a coincidence, but food for thought none the less

Another plot hole is that Donald Stone said him and Kenny were planning to get up early and go to a car auction. His daughter Kendra said he was to get up at 4AM and left for his job over an hour away in Columbus. Either way, neither of these people, nor any of the other family decided to check on Kenny until 1:30PM, even though 7 family members were discovered dead around 7AM. Kenny, you recall, was also found 10 miles away from the other crime scenes and only shot once in the face. I am very curious to if the bullet used on him matches any of the other bullets..but this isn't something LE is talking about obviously.

Here are some good links for those wanting more info, or a wider picture of what occurred as we know..

Umbrella of Suspicion Pt.1 Before the Murders - Most accurate timeline I could find, plus link to the YT 911 calls and other good info
Umbrella of Suspicion Pt. 2 The Murders
Pike Co: Death In The Foothills - A really good piece from the Enquirer

Now, I had mentioned before about corruption and shadiness in Pike Co politics, such as the ex-deputy who killed two people, one using the prosecutor's gun AFTER the first murder

Well, now this is pure gossip, and quite possibly the bitter lies of an ex-junkie who feels like he was wronged by LE... OR not.. Either way this following post was made by a Pike County local to his own Facebook page in regards to Sheriff Reader saying the killers were local:


A very dangerous thing to post I would say, especially when he 'checks-in' at home on FB and has pictures of his kids on it. Chris Graves from the Enquirer commented on this post and said "DM me please", and the next morning his Facebook was scrubbed and set to private. Some really crazy stuff going on in this case, and it keeps getting weirder...

How much time did you spend on this post? I need to know because I've been chastised for effort = good post

naem
May 29, 2011



This latest season of trailer park boys got really grim

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Who Is Paul Blart posted:

Look as a country America basically decided this was OK, I don't understand why people are upset about it anymore. This is what we do.

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009
Good post, interesting thread, haters have tiny dicks.

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona

Dr.Caligari posted:

AND we're back..

I will try my best to catch you up on the going-on's since the died a GBS death.

To catch up, The Cincinnati Enquirer had sued Pike County to have the autopsies of the murdered family of 8 released. The Ohio AG as well as Pike co were against this, saying that disclosing this information would severely hamper the investigation. The case was sent to mediation.

What we got from that is a Heavy redacted autopsy reports
And the coroner's also Heavy redacted report

Needless to say, the Enquirer wasn't happy with this, and are proceeding with the case. Despite my prestigious internet Dr. title, I am not a real doctor or even close, so I couldn't make much from the autopsy reports. If one of you much wiser individuals spot anything odd, please do share.


Some other developments:

Fox19 did a report where they continuously visited the parking lot of warehouse where the Rhoden trailers and camper is kept. No security was ever seen, and according to them, just anyone could approach the homes. I personally think this is junk article, as Dewine has stated any 'good' evidence is stored elsewhere, and the properties are being kept in a warehouse to protect the contents for whoever inherits them, as well as possible preservation for a jury walk through. But at this point, I don't see a judge making a jury walk through a bloodsplatter tin can that has had no circulation or climate control for over 6 months...

Sheriff Reader says that he believes the perp(s) are local. AG Dewine doesn't agree, and says this is speculation and not an investigatory finding.

Some other new facts and rumors;

Kenneth Rhoden's daughter, Kendra was suppose to have a sleepover the night with Hannah Gilley of this fateful night. She was with her boyfriend as they followed Hannah in her red Jeep. On the way, both her boyfriend gets a 'toothache' , and she gets a call about a babysitting gig she can't pass up. She pulls a U-Turn and goes back home source

Miranda Gilley, was also suppose to stay with Hannah, and changed her mind.

Hannah also sent her oldest daughter to stay with her dad, unplanned, that same night at 10:30PM

Donald Stone, another cousin, was suppose to spend the night at Kenny's camper. He ends up not going to Kenny's or spending the night.

Brandon Rhoden, who lived within the same area did not spend the night at his home this night

So that's 5 people changing there mind at the last minute. Maybe they are all interconnected and just a coincidence, but food for thought none the less

Another plot hole is that Donald Stone said him and Kenny were planning to get up early and go to a car auction. His daughter Kendra said he was to get up at 4AM and left for his job over an hour away in Columbus. Either way, neither of these people, nor any of the other family decided to check on Kenny until 1:30PM, even though 7 family members were discovered dead around 7AM. Kenny, you recall, was also found 10 miles away from the other crime scenes and only shot once in the face. I am very curious to if the bullet used on him matches any of the other bullets..but this isn't something LE is talking about obviously.

Here are some good links for those wanting more info, or a wider picture of what occurred as we know..

Umbrella of Suspicion Pt.1 Before the Murders - Most accurate timeline I could find, plus link to the YT 911 calls and other good info
Umbrella of Suspicion Pt. 2 The Murders
Pike Co: Death In The Foothills - A really good piece from the Enquirer

Now, I had mentioned before about corruption and shadiness in Pike Co politics, such as the ex-deputy who killed two people, one using the prosecutor's gun AFTER the first murder

Well, now this is pure gossip, and quite possibly the bitter lies of an ex-junkie who feels like he was wronged by LE... OR not.. Either way this following post was made by a Pike County local to his own Facebook page in regards to Sheriff Reader saying the killers were local:


A very dangerous thing to post I would say, especially when he 'checks-in' at home on FB and has pictures of his kids on it. Chris Graves from the Enquirer commented on this post and said "DM me please", and the next morning his Facebook was scrubbed and set to private. Some really crazy stuff going on in this case, and it keeps getting weirder...

good post, thank you

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Helical Nightmares posted:

Good post, interesting thread, haters have tiny dicks.
It really is. It seems like everyone has their hands in this pie though and they can even actually use the Internet so uh rip

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001

naem posted:

This latest season of trailer park boys got really grim

Trailer Park Boys, a Martin Scorcese film

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
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I live in Pike county so I do actually read these posts.

dookifex_maximus
Aug 10, 2016

by zen death robot
i dont live in pike county but i love rubbernecking

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Man Whore posted:

I live in Pike county so I do actually read these posts.
Oh god, we're all gonna die :ohdear:

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Man Whore posted:

I live in Pike county so I do actually read these posts.

If he shot you, I'd post about you in that dead goon thread.

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Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
Nothing new to report per say, but earlier in October someone distributed a 12-page newspaper calling itself "The Dirty Badge" that was basically accusations about Sheriff Reader's past wrongdoings.

I won't list all of the accusations, but here are some highlights:

-While on duty at the Waverly Police Department, Charles Reader was accused of breaking into pop machines and stealing money. (This is a long standing local rumor)
-Greg Ford, who filed the complaint about the pop machines, was disciplined for filing an unfounded report.
-Charles Reader took emergency radios purchased with a grant that was meant only for fire departments. (This is true, and the Sheriff department owes $47k back)
-Charles Reader was accused of sexually harassing female employees and fired from the Ross County Juvenile Detention Center. (Reader was hired by the JDC on Oct. 31, 1995, and fired on Jan. 26, 1996, having not made it through the probation period. Records from his personnel file noted he was "not the right fit" and there were "too many questions."Notes in his file indicate a female employee requested not to work with him)
-Charles Reader was sued in small claims court in 1995 by a Gallipolis business and issued an arrest warrant for not paying. (True)
-Joel Jenkins was placed back on active duty by Charles Reader without the required psychological testing after a police-involved shooting.
-Reader hired several people who were laid off by other law enforcement. Coincidentally, all for sexual harassment

Link to full article and more accusations.


The good news is that it seems like AG Dewine almost completely shut-out the Pike Co SO once they arrived on the murder scene that day. The bad news is... it's Dewine's BCI.

Dr.Caligari fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Oct 30, 2016

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