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GhostBoy posted:I'm hopeful the bathroom bill nonsense will get repealed, if not through the courts, then through pressure from business. Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT civil rights organization along with Equality NC, a similar org from North Carolina, has managed to get quite a number of big companies on board: http://equalitync.org/latest/news/businesses_against_hb2_updated_4_21/ It'll get repealed, because much like many of the 'morality' laws the Right loves to pass, it has no basis in actual established law and, is in fact, contrary to established laws. Either it gets repealed or the courts will strike it down, and frankly the politicians that passed it know it will happen. Passing these bills is just a way to appease their voting base, and then they can turn and raise a fuss when it inevitably gets struck down. ThingOne posted:Missouri's Religious Freedom Amendment was struck down by a house committee in a 6-6 vote yesterday with three of the more business-minded Republicans jumping ship. You can already hear the religious wing sharpening their knives. Their knives are getting awfully short. That's why all these bills and vocal hatred, they know they are losing their voting base due to age and decrease in members of those evangelical faiths. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Mercury_Storm posted:A small town in Alabama called Oxford just released a brand new Willing to bet they repealed it in anticipation of the Feds coming down hard on Carolina.
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ecureuilmatrix posted:NC is responding with "gently caress YOU DAD YOU CAN'T MAKE ME" And, lo, the Federal Courts did reach down and slap the gently caress out of North Carolina for not understanding the Supremacy Clause.
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May 6, 2016 16:15
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Nitrousoxide posted:This isnt a supremecy clause issue. The law violates the 14th. They may removing the funding as an initial punishment, but at the end of the day it's an unconstitutional law and does violate the supremacy clause.
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Roy Moore has been suspended for Ethics violations. Which resulted him lying and throwing a tantrum: http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...me_sex_marriage quote:Despite rulings by both a federal judge and later, the U.S. Supreme Court, "Moore instructed probate judges throughout Alabama to ignore those higher courts and to refuse to issue licenses to same-sex couples," AL.com reports. Full text of complaint: https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/documents/coj46complaint.pdf CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 03:43 on May 7, 2016 |
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Gyre posted:It's going to be delicious when his poo poo gets smacked down. The best part: quote:North Carolina's suit said that Title VII, which the Department of Justice said House Bill No. 2 violates, doesn't recognize transgender status as a protected class. "If the United States desires a new protected class under Title VII, it must seek such action by the United States Congress," the suit said. What better way to get that done than to sue in Federal Court over a law that is Constitutionally dead in the water, while you cry about being given a week to rectify a law that you took less than a day to pass as a bill and signed into law the same day in a special session. Seriously, someone in the DoJ is laughing their rear end off right now, and I'm willing to bet that he made this lawsuit under advise of the Liberty Council, because it reeks of 'Kim David part deux' because nobody but Liberty Council would be so loving stupid to think this would fly.
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May 9, 2016 16:00
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Mr. Nice! posted:Today is the deadline the feds gave them to pass something that says the law will not be enacted or enforced. I wonder if they'll pull the trigger and yank the money. Considering they are suing? They'll probably ACCELERATE yanking the money.
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May 9, 2016 16:03
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Sharkie posted:The Justice Department, of course, doesn't agree with this interpretation.http://documents.buzzfeed.com/Title%20VII%20Memo.pdf Seriously, whose ready to watch the inevitable spanking?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Y'all act like getting bitchslapped by the Feds isn't going to feed their persecution narrative. Everything feed into their persecution narrative. The entire backstory for the Liberty Council and half the Evangelicals is that they are being oppressed by NOT being allowed to oppress others.
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joat mon posted:That's 100% true, and shows that 1)strict construction and 2)living constitution/laws arguments know no ideology. (though it's usually right+strict construction and left+living constitution) Even if it is still in question, I doubt North Carolina is going to be the one to finally sway that into the Conservative's favour, and this will likely just make the DoJ more staunch in knocking these sort of things down.
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comes along bort posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...3cf6_story.html Yeah, which is part of why its likely his little lawsuit will go nowhere.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Lynch just came out and said that the DOJ is suing the state of NC over HB2 to enjoin enforcement and that financial sanctions on the state are still on the table during the process. I think they are leaving them on the table as a good faith bait, but the way Lynch was talking, DoJ is going to rip them a new one if they don't back down now.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Yeah the DoJ is not happy at all that NC didn't even respond to them and instead just filed suit. Seriously, it was such a bad move on NCs part. Oh, they just filed a second suit as well. But if Lynch is talking this way, NC might as well have just thrown a temper tantrum, because DOJ is going to take them through the ringer for that. Lynch just announced UofNC board of governors is meeting tomorrow and they reached out to the DoJ, chances are they are going to be game.
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quote:While Republican state leaders have complained about being “bullied” by the federal government over House Bill 2, lobbyists in Raleigh tell WRAL News they and the businesses they represent are being bullied by state lawmakers seeking to silence business opposition to the new law.
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BigRed0427 posted:Source please? Also, I love that Trans rights is such a big issue that the right is willing to throw big business under the bus just to preserve the gender binary. http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/north_carolina_republicans_now_targeting_companies_that_oppose_hb2_for_retribution
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May 12, 2016 17:35
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joat mon posted:You might need to recalibrate. He was getting an execute homosexuals bill (since overturned) passed. And the courts have rejected the defenses' attempts to dismiss twice. This is going to be a very bad case for Lively.
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SwingShift posted:"If only we treat these trans people horribly enough, they'll stop being trans. Wait, over half of trans kids try to kill themselves? Probably not related." They want trans/gay kids to off themselves or repent and go straight. It's quite literally their goal. Otherwise, they deserve to die as an affront to the Lord.
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Sharkie posted:11 States are suing the Obama Administration after the administration pointed out the interpretation of Title IX they'd been using for a while now. Agencies named in the suit include the Department of Justice, the Department of Education, the Department of Labor, etc., as well as Loretta Lynch and other officials. I can't see how they hope to win this, Scalia is dead, and unless Trump wins more progressive judges will fill the bench, and even when Scalia WAS alive, Gay Marriage passed. This is just them attempting to distract voters from actual issues.
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http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ericrosswood/supergirl_actor_s_cousin_sent_to_ex_gay_therapyquote:Jeremy Jordan, who plays Winn Schott on CBS' Supergirl, has turned to social media in an effort to rescue his cousin from being trapped in an ex-gay conversion therapy center.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Saw that story and spent an hour fantasizing about a midnight drag queen commando raid on the facility.  Yardbomb posted:If there was any justice, every one of those hellholes would be firebombed with the people running them locked inside. Yes. I've had a couple as well, its as close to a modern Prison Camp complete with torture as you can get.
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http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...no_longer_there Rumor is that Sarah has been released from the Pray Away the Gay Camp.
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Ratoslov posted:Is there a non-profit that wants to lobby these things into non-existence that I could donate to? APA has basically classified these sort of camps as torture. I know they are actively opposed to them.
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Vulpes Vvardenfell posted:Isn't that situation flatly illegal? I'd think the people running the place could be charged with False Imprisonment. They get the same sort of legal loophole as military style discipline camps for troubled teens, and nobody will dare touch them because the Evangelical crowd would political murder you.
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Aleph Null posted:I think their clout is on its way out. Not soon enough for their victims.
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Guy was pulled over in LA with firearms and tannerite, supposedly heading to the Pride festival. You can speculate from there...
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Liberal_L33t posted:That is literally the case this time, though. Tell us about your Fine Ol' Solution.
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Schubalts posted:Can we also point those people at animals like the species of lizard that is composed entirely of females, that reproduce asexually, but still engage in mating behavior with each other (to possibly induce egg-laying)? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asexual-lizards/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail And that isn't even to mention the thousands of recorded instances of homosexuality that occur in nature otherwise.
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Guavanaut posted:Yeah, but there's also thousands of instances of poo poo we really shouldn't be excusing by appeal to nature that occur too, like gang rape in ducks and traumatic insemination in bedbugs and all kinds of poo poo that occurs in the parasite world. Its more to demonstrate that their argument that being gay is against nature is false. Yes, there is plenty of hosed up stuff in nature, nature is generally awful.
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Kylra posted:I don't know whether to laugh or not over the gop trying so hard to pin the shooting as foreign terror and how we need to shut off the flow of refugees. Are there no depths they won't stoop to? Donald Trump really is the leader they deserve. Forever. If it makes you feel better, its killing his ratings, the only people who buy that are the Tea Party mongoloids that already support him no matter what.
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Schizotek posted:This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man I'm so sorry dude. 
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Toplowtech posted:And Turkey's gov just declared that the Istanbul Gay Pride March wouldn't happen this year "on security ground". Considering that last year, they broke it up with cops shooting rubber bullets on the crowd, it's hard to deny the security problem. Between Erdrogan's recent announcements declaring women who don't have children 'Useless' and Turkey playing up their Islamic connections, say hello to the new Turkish Islamic state.
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Hermetic posted:He's eilther too stupid to understand you, or trolling. Either way, the kid's not worth your time. Its Insect Court. He's a Right Wing troll.
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Hollismason posted:What's a good news site for LGBT news. I mostly read the Advocate , Queerty( don't judge me) and Huffposts Queer Voices. http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/
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Literally The Worst posted:lmao you are literally defending civil unions as being separate from but equal to marriage, is this fuckin real Bu..but separate but equal 
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Hermetic posted:I'm sorry if that's how I came across. It was more "I can see why they're not in a rush to fix it immediately, despite being fairly progressive", not "This never needs to be fixed, separate but equal is awesome!". You're one of those nutcases that thinks governments shouldn't be allowed to marry and marriage is a religious institution aren't you? OR. You could just let gays marry. Because this is a childish line of inquiry.
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Guavanaut posted:I never said it was Abrahamic or religious, just that it has historically been patriarchal and I understand why people object to that. It's not like we're trying to rehabilitate the KKK or the Swatstika. The vast majority of people have positive views of the word marriage, so doing away with it because it was less equal previously is kind of silly. And even then, what does this actually have to do with gays demanding marriage equality? They want access to those rights and under the bonds of marriage, so it seems kind of silly for you to try to make this about "Well, but you see marriage is really unequal and sexist in the past, so nobody should have it". That's just shifting the goal posts. unwantedplatypus posted:The argument that marriage has baggage doesn't really hold up. Marriage is heavily inter-twined with the idea of a mutually beneficial, consensual, relationship in the west. It's historical meanings and implementations, while not utterly irrelevant, do not have much bearing on how the word is used today. This, exactly. Most humans view marriage positively.
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Guavanaut posted:And still carries those connotations for some people, because we still live in a society that carries a lot of those trappings. You can see why people might want an arrangement that escapes that word, right? Yeah, I want you to go around an average town and tell married people that their marriage is an unequal partnership and they should change it to a civil union. Literally The Worst posted:What people might those be
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Small Frozen Thing posted:No offense, but you do have to be careful bringing up "average" people in discussions regarding minority groups. True, wasn't thinking ahead there. a cartoon duck posted:For protocol marriage and civil unions aren't the same in the first place, at least in Germany. Civil unions aren't constitutionally protected so they can be pretty easily undone, and while someone can adopt their partner's child in a civil union they cannot adopt a child together. There's also some issues regarding the support of widows in civil unions as I understand it, but I'm no legal expert. And that's the problem in the US as well, anybody arguing that Civil Unions should be seperate but equal to marriage is usually hiding the fact that: 1. They view marriage as a religious institution 2. Some states do not give equal rights to Civil Unions. 3. It would allow Evangelicals and others to propose legislation to more easily target and exclude gay partnerships. Its a bait and switch. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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hackbunny posted:Uh, wow. This can't be true, can it? Doesn't make much sense given the context of his 911 call.
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