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CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...essure_from_nba

quote:

North Carolina House Republicans are reportedly drafting new legislation to amend HB2, amid pressure from the NBA which could move the 2017 All-Star Game out of state. HB2 is a virulently anti-LGBT bill that experts have deemed unconstitutional, which in addition to banning transgender people from using public restrooms that correspond with their gender identity, remove local control over minimum wage and employment discrimination ordinances.

The possible new bill would, as WBTV first reported, create "an official document that would recognize a person�s gender reassignment. The new document, which is treated as the equivalent as a birth certificate in the draft legislation, is referred to as a certificate of sex reassignment."

A portion of the draft bill reportedly reads:

�An individual who (i) was born in another state or territory of the United States that does not provide a mechanism for amending a current certificate of birth or issuing a new certificate of birth to change the sex of an individual following sex reassignment surgery and (ii) resides in this State at the time of the written application may request a certificate of sex reassignment from the State Registrar,� the legislation reads. �The State Registrar shall issue a certificate of sex reassignment upon a written application from an individual accompanied by a notarized statement from the physician who performed the sex reassignment surgery or from a physician licensed to practice medicine who has examined the individual and can certify that the person has undergone sex reassignment surgery.�

It would appear that only transgender people who have completed "sex reassignment surgery," as it is described, would be considered transgender and entitled to "a certificate of sex reassignment."

"The draft bill," WBTV adds, "also amends portions of HB2 related to protections for employees by adding specific references to federal statutes that provide special protections for certain groups of people. Other changes in the draft legislation increase the penalties for suspects convicted of committing certain offenses in a multi-person bathroom or changing facility."

The draft bill also amends portions of HB2 related to protections for employees by adding specific references to federal statutes that provide special protections for certain groups of people. Other changes in the draft legislation increase the penalties for suspects convicted of committing certain offenses in a multi-person bathroom or changing facility.

"The draft legislation is the result of months of conversations between leadership in the state legislature, including the Speaker's office, and officials from the NBA," WBTV adds, noting House Speaker Tim Moore (photo) has not responded to inquiries.

https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/747844228328325120/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

# ¿ Jun 28, 2016 19:34

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 08:32

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Teddybear posted:

Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter has ordered that the ban on transgender military personnel be lifted immediately.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/transgender-military.html

Its not been a good year for the Far Right. :getin:

# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 19:00

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Max posted:

Yeah the proper response from the editor should have been to set the article on fire before it even got posted.

And fire the person responsible.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 20:39

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Yesssss

Desperation of Right Wing groups is so sweet.

Bonus:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...ng_anti_gay_law

quote:

A federal appeals court has just upheld a lower court's ruling denying Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant's request to allow him to enforce a law that makes anti-LGBT discrimination legal. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals Friday afternoon honored U.S. District Court Judge Carlton Reeves' August 1 ruling, in which he refused to stay his prior ruling that HB 1523 is unconstitutional and could not be enforced.

On Friday, the 5th Circuit stated it would maintain the status quo by not allowing the law to be enforced. Judge Reeves had ruled literally hours before the law was slated to become effective that it was unconstitutional, and thus has never been enforced.

Buzzfeed's Chris Geidner reports, "in denying the request for a stay pending appeal," the 5th Circuit "also denied the governor�s request to expedite the appeal."

In his July 1 ruling Judge Reeves stated HB 1523 is "state-sanctioned discrimination," and said its "absence does not impair the free exercise of religion."

In that ruling Reeves also slammed Gov. Bryant, stating "issuing a marriage license to a gay couple is not like being forced into armed combat or to assist with an abortion," speaking to the State's argument that irreparable harm could come without HB 1523. "Matters of life and death are sui generis. If movants truly believe that providing services to LGBT citizens forces them to �tinker with the machinery of death,� their animus exceeds anything seen in Romer, Windsor, or the marriage equality cases."

Gov. Bryant will have to decide if he wants to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court.

UPDATE:
The conservative legal organization, Alliance Defending Freedom, is providing co-counsel for the governor's appeal in the 5th Circuit. HB 1523 was based, at least in part, on language from a model policy that ADF sent to the governor's office before same-sex marriage was legalized nationally in 2015."

# ¿ Aug 13, 2016 04:49

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

North Carolina filed its brief defending HB2 today:

quote:

The brief contains more than a few absurd statements. Here are some highlights of the most abhorrent. It�s worth noting that none of these are true:

�Intersex� isn�t a real thing. (p9)
Pretty much every man everywhere is just dying to dress like a woman and sneak into bathrooms to molest your daughters. (p22)
Law enforcement officials won�t be able to arrest anyone for doing anything wrong because of non-discrimination laws. (p23)
The NCAA has a standard of acceptance for trans people in sports teams, which justifies NC�s discrimination. (p26)
People who have different types of genitalia are scary. (p28)
Gender identity is nothing more than a �feeling� that people use to trick others. (p30)
An injunction would prohibit the people of NC from governing themselves (even though HB2 prohibits local municipalities from governing themselves). (p31)
The reality of verbal and physical attacks trans people suffer isn�t worth writing a law against because it�s abuse from citizens, not the State. (p34)
Because trans people don�t go to the police to report safety concerns, their concerns aren�t valid. (p34)
Non-discrimination laws would mean �any male� could use a women�s restroom legally. (p34)
Trans people claim they won�t use the bathroom because of safety concerns but that�s not true nor a good reason for a safety law. (p35) (Yes, it�s true that trans folks avoid the bathroom for safety, here�s a study.)
Treating trans people with respect and letting them use the proper bathroom isn�t a good treatment for gender dysphoria. (p35)
Gender dysphoria goes away once puberty starts. (p36)
Any harms to trans people are outweighed by harms to non-trans people. (p37)
Even if a trans person is harmed by anti-trans policies, just being trans is harm enough and they�re already suffering, so harming them more is ok. (p37)
Since �gender identity� isn�t real and only �biological sex� is, HB2 doesn�t discriminate against transgender people. (p44)
Since non-discrimination laws that mention gender identity have never passed Congress, we don�t need to worry about it. (p46)
None of this applies to Title IX since external genitalia is the only thing that matters in determining sex. (everywhere)
North Carolina�s brief goes from bad to worse to absolutely disgusting and can be summed up in one sentence: The idea of transgender people messes with what we think our world is and that scares the crap out of us, so it�s bad and wrong.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/rjmedwed/north_carolina_s_newest_brief_supporting_hb2_is_as_abhorrent_as_you_d_expect

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 23:06

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Guavanaut posted:

I'm glad the brief set the tone with the bit that has been medically and scientifically shown to be wrong, it helps anyone that's undecided about taking it seriously.

Does that mean that people whose gender identity matches their body/birth assigned sex are tricking people?

I think the saddest and funniest part is that they are actually being advised that this sort of argument will be taken seriously...

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 23:15

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Crabtree posted:

"You see that, John. EVERY MAN WANTS TO DRESS UP AS A WOMAN AND PEEP ON KIDS. IT ISN'T JUST ME." These people would probably be the best episodes on to Catch a Predator if that show still existed because they seem so drat knowledgeable about this particular fantasy for some reason.

It isn't coincidence that half the pedophiles that get arrested in the South are associated with Church groups or Religious Youth groups :ssh:

# ¿ Aug 21, 2016 04:19

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

MaxxBot posted:

Man I could never be a defense attorney, I know they're just doing their job but the way they describe this is pretty sick.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/trial-man-accused-boiled-water-attack-continues-41610112

Nearly killing someone for being gay "wasn't hateful" and "wasn't malicious," being gay is "disrespectful behavior."

EDIT: As expected but good to see nonetheless.

https://twitter.com/JLewisWSB/status/768534308881592320

But mah religious freedoms!

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 21:42

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/top_australian_newspaper_publishes_cartoon_depicting_gay_people_as_nazi_stormtroopers

https://twitter.com/davidadonaldson/status/778367889996779521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

# ¿ Sep 21, 2016 17:00

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...ame_sex_couples

quote:

A federal judge has just dismissed a lawsuit filed against a North Carolina law enacted specifically to "protect" magistrates from having to issue same-sex marriage licenses or officiate weddings of same-sex couples. The law, known as SB2, was drafted and passed by top North Carolina Republicans in response to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling on marriage equality, as protection for people who claimed same-sex marriage violates their deeply held religious beliefs.

The complaint was dismissed on the grounds the plaintiffs, two same-sex couples and one interracial couple, did not have standing and had not been directly harmed by the law. The AP notes "U.S. District Judge Max Cogburn wrote there is potential someone could suffer real harm because of the law."

The bill was originally sponsored by Senate President pro tempore Phil Berger, who has been actively working to fight same-sex marriage for years.

Last year Gov. Pat McCrory vetoed the bill, but Republicans were able to override his veto.

As of July last year, 14 magistrates had taken advantage of the law.

In order to appear non-discriminatory, the magistrate must promise to not marry any couples � gay or straight � for at least six months, but even during debate lawmakers were openly explaining that the legislation was to "protect" them from marrying same-sex couples.

I thought we were done with this poo poo.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2016 18:50

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

iospace posted:

It's North Carolina. I think it snuck under the radar during the HB2 crap and the whole veneer of "OH, IT'S AGAINST ALL MARRIAGES " which kept it from getting traction in the big media.

Oh, I know it being North Carolina and all, but pretty sure this is in direct defiance of the SCOTUS ruling, I'm shocked the Federal Judge even ruled for the defense.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2016 19:43

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Cocks Cable posted:

It's not that surprising. Log Cabin Republicans are a thing, and I've encountered my fare share of rich entitled gay males with a hefty dose of FYGM attitude. You really don't want to meet them. They're quite insufferable. And then with the the Pulse tragedy and ISIS regularly throwing gay people off buildings, some will fall prey to the evil muslims waging war on western culture fear mongering narrative.

Milo and Peter Thiel come to mind

# ¿ Sep 23, 2016 21:34

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...rriage_benefits

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Nearly one-third of Texas state lawmakers, along with candidates for the state legislature, pastors, and other anti-LGBT activists are saying the Supreme Court's 2015 Obergefell decision does not give legally-married same-sex couples who are government employees the right to the spousal benefits their different-sex peers have, or even the right to live together.

50 Republican state lawmakers and others have signed an amicus brief making those assertions, along with others, including the claim that the Obergefell decision would compromise the state sovereignty of Texas if it were used to require the Lone Star State to spend any taxpayer funds, especially on spousal benefits for same-sex couples.

At The Texas Observer, John Wright explains the brief "was submitted Friday in a lawsuit brought by anti-LGBT activists against the city of Houston in response to then-Mayor Annise Parker�s decision to extend benefits to the same-sex spouses of city employees in 2013."

Wright notes the Texas Supreme Court had refused to hear the case, but "Jonathan Saenz, president of the anti-LGBT group Texas Values, and former Harris County GOP chair Jared Woodfill, have petitioned the nine-member court for a rehearing."

Also signing the brief is Rep. Cecil Bell, an anti-LGBT extremist.

The brief essentially argues that even the U.S. Supreme Court does not have the constitutional right to direct any state to treat same-sex couples the same way it treats different-sex couples.

It claims "nothing" in the Obergefell ruling "compelled the taxpayers of Texas to pay for a vast array of benefits for same-sex spouses."

Note that the signatories of the amicus brief have no qualms about the taxpayers of Texas paying for a "vast array of benefits" for different-sex spouses.

"Indeed, it would unnecessarily implicate constitutional issues of state sovereignty if Obergefell were misconstrued as imposing spending requirements on the state of Texas to fund expensive health care and other benefits without authorization by Texas law," they claim.

The lawmakers and others who signed the brief call on the justices "to diminish federal tyranny and reestablish Texas Sovereignty," by denying these same-sex couples spousal benefits.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2016 19:43

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Reminder that homophobia is alive and well -- even among "progressives"!

And Pseudoscience promotion is common on both the Right and Left :smith:

# ¿ Nov 8, 2016 20:08

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Aleph Null posted:

"wrong think" is whatever the people in charge say it is.

So the abusive beliefs would fall under "religious views" and be considered exempt. Unless it's not Christianity, then the child's welfare becomes more important.
At least, that's how it would probably play out.
As it is, parents can have children die under their care to their beliefs (such as Church of Christ, Scientist which believes prayer can cure everything), and not be held accountable until it becomes a trend.

Remember: You are talking about Conservatives that defend parents who starve/beat their children for not being proper, good Missionary position Christians. They protect people that allow their children to die tortuous diseases because "Prayer will save them"

They would rather their child die than be gay or not Christian. Think about that. The very group that says Abortion is Murder is okay with murder when it defends their wacky religious ideals.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 19:47

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick is holding a TV conference where they intend to announce an HB2 style bill.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/watch_live_now_texas_lt_governor_announces_anti_transgender_bill

# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 21:27

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

John Kerry just apologized, on behalf of the State Department, for the Lavender Scare:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_scare

# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 19:32

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

This happened in Brazil:

:nms:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dandara-dos-santos-dead-brazil-9980288 :nms:

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 01:42

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Hollismason posted:

Here's another article about the gay men being rounded up by Washington Post

This is terrifying.

Chechnya seems to have a thing for genocide...

# ¿ Apr 12, 2017 13:29

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

https://twitter.com/repjimcooper/status/857709095238938624

# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 21:38

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Federal Appeals court ruled against the plaintiffs over Mississippi's new Religious Freedom law:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen..._go_into_effect

# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 20:26

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

joat mon posted:

Here's the opinion.
They're not saying Mississippi's law is legal, they're saying that "That's messed up and no-poo poo unconstitutional" isn't enough harm to grant standing to sue.
In essence, they're saying that if there's no harm, they're not going to call a foul.

"Sure it could cause harm. It hasn't yet, and its totally not constitutional"

C'mon, that seems like a cop out.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 22:47

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

quote:

A Catholic bishop has instructed priests in his central Illinois diocese to deny communion, last rites and funeral rites to people in same-sex marriages � unless they repent.

In the decree he sent to priests, deacons, seminarians and staff in his Springfield diocese last week, Bishop Thomas Paprocki sets forth a set of norms on same-sex marriage and related pastoral issues that he says are the policy of the diocese.

Paprocki's decree bans priests and parish staff from performing same-sex marriages or allowing same-sex weddings or receptions at any Catholic facilities. People in same-sex marriages "should not present themselves for Holy Communion, nor should they be admitted to Holy Communion." A person in a same-sex marriage who is facing death may only receive communion after expressing "repentance for his or her sins."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ontent=20170623

# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 02:57

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...ite_sex_couples

Texas Supreme Court has rejected ruling that same sex couples are entitles to the same benefits as hetero couples.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 16:12

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

https://twitter.com/ZackFord/status...ame_sex_couples

# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 02:45

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Sessions has rescinded protections for Trans individuals from Workplace Discrimination

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...+Discrimination

# ¿ Oct 5, 2017 23:59

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 08:32

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Trump Administration just pulled support for Stonewall National Monument, in commemoration of the Stonewall Riots

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...cation+Ceremony

# ¿ Oct 11, 2017 14:54

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