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BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Source please? Also, I love that Trans rights is such a big issue that the right is willing to throw big business under the bus just to preserve the gender binary.

# ¿ May 12, 2016 17:33

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 21:36

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Hollismason posted:

Maybe then it could purchase some drones to drop off care packages or something. Their "therapy" in those camps is usually outdoor labor.

This I could get behind.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 17:21

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

If we are going to get political with this, then lets push the non-discrimination laws. Hard.

If the GOP cares SO MUCH about us now, then let them know that's what we want.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 21:39

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Me to my Senators and congresswoman posted:

Dear (Senator)
I am writing this the afternoon after the shooting that had taken place in Orlando that had killed fifty people. By now it has come out that the shooter was Muslim and the club he attacked was a gay night club. All the usual things that you can say about this shooting are being said about this one now, including new calls for banning Muslims from the US.
Here is why this time around is making me mad. I am a Trans Woman who has been listening to the past month and a half about how Trans people are a threat to children if we allow them to use public bathrooms. Or Gay people having rights in this country would destroy the first amendment. Congressman Louie Gohmert said, two days ago, that the VA being allowed to perform reassignment surgery would put the lives of our veterans at risk(http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/louie-gohmert-oppose-transgender-rights-save-veterans-lives) The Lt. Governor of Texas this morning posted a bible verse that blamed the LGBT community for what had just happened.(http://www.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patrick-tweets-reap-what-8076147.php) on twitter. Now all of the sudden when our community has been directly attacked people have been praying for us, and using this incident to show solidarity with the LGBT community.
Islam and ISIS did not kill fifty people last night. What killed them was homophobia and transphobia. If the GOP all of the sudden is deciding to care about the LGBT community because ISIS MIGHT be responsible. Then their feet must be put to the fire for their support. I am asking that you and your colleges in the Senate and Congress make a hard push for passing the laws that would make discrimination of all kinds against LGBT individuals illegal in the United States. If the GOP wants to help our community all of the sudden then that is what we want from them.

Anything I should add?

I know writing people in congress is pointless, but dammit I want to do something and this is all I got right now.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 22:12

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

I need something to do. What are some LGBT political groups to donate to that are good? Who are the people in Washington down the throats of people who do stuff?

Who can I throw money at or give time to?

# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 21:53

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Keeshhound posted:

Can you donate blood?

Nope, I've had sex with someone with a penius.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 22:12

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Schizotek posted:

This week has been pretty awful for me. I go to school in Orlando, and while I was lucky enough to be in Texas visiting family during the shooting, I still got to wake up to texts from friends telling me my community was being massacred. Discussion about it in the household ended up with a shouting argument between me and pretty much everyone else that ended with me outed and told by my grandfather that people gays and liberals aren't part of the family's values, and if I didn't hold their values I wasn't part of the family. Feels bad man

Sorry to hear that. Were all here if you need us.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2016 00:19

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

spotlessd posted:

I mean this is a perfectly true fact but you kind of trailed off there. Actively harmful to whom?

Somehow people got the impression that debates around left identity politics are theoretical questions of strategy and priorities. That's bullshit. No one on the left side of that argument had any hope of resisting the self-appointed (brace yourself--they're all rich!) power brokers who put their normative politics in to practice over the objections of their more radical counterparts. It's a done deal. The only question is what happened next and that turns out to be pretty obvious if you're approach to history isn't as fuzzy and sloppy as the person who wrote that article but also just if you have any notion at all of what usually happens when you make a deal with Satan. Access to liberal institutions is great if you're a liberal who still thinks they can just bring in some folding chairs at some future date and get this tide a-risin' but no one who actually needs to see a doctor more than they need to get loving married is really holding their breath.

Honestly its heartwarming to see the Tumblr crowd returning to their old redbaiting schtick in an election season but try to remember whose fault it actually is that we're fighting an incipient fascist insurgency in the first place.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_and_responsibilities_of_marriages_in_the_United_States

It's Wikipedia but BOOM. All the legal rights you get in the US when you are married. It's all stuff that you don't think matters till you try to start a family. LGBT people fighting for marriage rights is about normalizing LGBT people AND getting the same benefits straight married couples get.

Fake edit: Go gently caress Yourself.

Real edit: http://www.houstonpress.com/news/texas-high-court-judge-wants-to-deny-houston-gay-couples-marriage-benefits-8744089 here is a sneak peek of what the fight for marriage rights is going to look like in the next few years by the way. Courts and judges splitting hairs over a Surpreme Court decision over marriage rights and benefits. This is why this poo poo is important. This is the poo poo that he's people build their lives and form families.

Fake edit: Suck my dick, You Fuckman.

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 24, 2016

# ¿ Sep 24, 2016 15:10

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

*sigh* someone help me out here. He's saying that big money interests push gay marriage as an issue to distract from the REAL issues plaguing the LGBT community, meanwhile no one cares about housing and employment discrimination?

If so. What the gently caress are you talking about?

It's not like the Human Rights Campaign just packed up shop after last year. They are still around. LGBT activists are still around, fighting for these things.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2016 18:23

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Holy poo poo, i just realized that I have heard guys yelling about cultural Marxism make this same argument about gay people.

I was going to do a long post about why this dude is so full of poo poo but he really isn't worth it. Just know you can suck my dick for thinking "Identity Issues" are preventing your dream of a Marxist rebellion and utopia that may or may not be better for us.

Just imagine all of Rick's lines here are me yelling at you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vN_PEmeKb0&t=204s

# ¿ Sep 25, 2016 01:15

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Mr. Nice! posted:

This thread got really really bad.

I blame capitalism.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2016 01:35

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Your all not alone.

I love you all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIVOjsPrnOs

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Nov 10, 2016

# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 19:50

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Is anyone who run in farther left circles seeing or hearing " What's happening in Chechnya is not real, it's just an excuse to drum up support for war with Russia and propagate Russiaphobia?" Because one of the organizers in my area is spreading it and boy am I mad right now. When I I get home from work i can post the full post.

Also throw in "36 states in the US currently do not protect LGBT under the law so...shut up".

# ¿ Apr 15, 2017 19:45

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Ok, took me awhile but i found their post again. drat, Facebook does not make finding things easy. Two things to know when you read this. 1: This person does the organizing for all the trans related events in our area, including TDOR and the Trans day of Visibility that was recently held. Also, their family is Russian so that might be where the "Russiaphobia' stuff is comming from

Dear god, how are there more Jullian Assanges. posted:

For US people, regarding Chechnya.
Here's what I know:
1. The information is currently inconclusive. The only media outlet that claims to have investigated this issue is not a very reliable one, and has reported false and/or embellished information in the past.
2. There is an extreme problem with homophobia and transphobia in Chechnya. It certainly permeates everything including the government's ideology.
3. US politicians, islamophobes and russophobes on the ground in the US are using this as a pretext to put out some disturbing calls. Similarly to pro-intervention calls regarding Syria, messaging is appearing calling on the US government to "do something about" Chechnya (really, Russia, they mean). 50 US congresspeople just signed a declaration against this possible problem in Chechnya. They did not do that because they care about LGBTQ people. They did it because they got something they could use as an easy pretext for Russophobia.
4. There are currently 32 states in the US with zero codified protections for LGBTQ people. The Trump administration aims to have that number grow. The Democratic Party will not do anything to stop the trend.
5. Both the Republicans and Democrats do not care about LGBTQ people in the US. They certainly do not care about LGBTQ people in Chechnya. They want to use our community to drum up support for sanctions and war. They've done this before. If you actually believe the Trump administration can or will actually initiate something positive to help Chechen and Russian LGBTQ people (we are talking Brown Muslims here) you need to sit down and do some thinking.
6. Do not expect liberal politicians to initiate anything positive either. The entire line of the Democratic Party in recent years has been to "go hard on Russia". That means sanctions and war. That means Russian people, including Russian LGBTQ people, dying.
What to do:
1. Allow people on the ground to investigate and report back further. The current information is insufficient and something of this magnitude needs to be verified and organized against very carefully so as not to endanger more people, whether or not it is true.
2. Vocally oppose homophobia and transphobia here. Organize against the US government's acts of aggression against LGBTQ people here. Don't let yourself be distracted from your primary fight.
3. Vocally oppose war, imperialism and russophobia.
4. Meet and support Chechen and Russian LGBTQ people (sup!). Help initiate forums on pinkwashing and anti-imperialist international LGBTQ solidarity. Make sure Russian and Chechen voices are at the forefront, but be aware that, like with any other demographic, there are many Russian and Chechen voices that are acting as supporters of nefarious US activity.
5. Do not stage protests "against Russian homophobia" in the US. That's already happening in Russia. We can do our own work -- you do yours. Protests here are a message to the US government. Protests against Russia here are a call on the US government to attack Russia.
6. If you want to stage a public action, make your messaging clear: Stand with LGBTQ people all over the world. Stand against US war. Don't let our communities be used as a pretext for imperialism.

I had totally forgotten the "All Live Matter" Part at the end there. This pisses me off so much and is why I am leery of a lot of the far left Marxists and socialists in general. It seems like a lot of them are demanding their pet causes come first and everything else is a distraction.

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Apr 16, 2017

# ¿ Apr 16, 2017 02:45

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

SO is a gun company sponsoring DC PRide or something?

# ¿ Jun 11, 2017 15:03

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

RagnarokAngel posted:

While I agree with your other points, I'm not aware that cops can work security out of uniform. I've never heard of it at least, but I'm willing to admit I'm wrong.

Last NY PRide had uniform LGBT cops marching in the parade.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2017 15:11

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Senju Kannon posted:

i personally feel that way if it's the self serving "hey sorry for the other christians but we're cool"

and tbh i trust lgbt religious people far more than i do straight religious people to tell me they're "with it" so in that sense yea i feel the similarly

YEah, same. There are actually a lot of churches in my state that fully welcome queer people. Hell one of the speakers at the Hartford rally today was a black transmale preacher who said we have to take the microphones away from the Ellens and NPHs of the world.

Honestly a good portion of the rally was Queer history and I really wanna know more. Especially int he early 90's when activism became more white.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 03:10

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

*sigh* Turns out you can't post a memorial pic on Pulse to Facebook or twitter without rear end in a top hat telling me I need to be angry about Muslims.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 15:38

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

joat mon posted:

Because I'm sure some Muslim somewhere, sometime, had a lovely opinion about LGBT folks, I don't know how much sympathy you'll get, based on the last couple pages.

REally? I have to put up with this here too? gently caress You.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 21:29

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

joat mon posted:

No, I agree with you that having to be angry about Muslims is stupid.

But the same pages where "gently caress corporation floats in pride parades, gently caress allowing cops to attend in uniform, gently caress allowing politicians to campaign there unless their record on gay rights is SPOTLESS, and gently caress any straight tourist that isn't respectful" is cheered and religion gets (albeit more gently) tossed in too, your sentiment of compassion and toleration felt unfortunately out of place at the moment.

Oh, sorry about that. It's mostly coming from people who don't give one solid gently caress about us. They just want another reason to hate Muslims.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2017 21:40

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Welp, this won't end well.

chicagoist posted:

Gay Pride Marchers Carrying Star of David Flags Kicked Out of Chicago Parade

Three people carrying Jewish Pride flags were asked to leave the Chicago Dyke March on Saturday in part because they �repeatedly expressed support for Zionism,� according to the organizers. One member of the Dyke March collective said those carrying the rainbow flag with a Star of David in the middle were told to leave because the flags �made people feel unsafe,� adding that the march was �anti-Zionist� and �pro-Palestinian,� according to the Windy City Times. American flags also were reportedly not welcome at the event, although it isn�t clear whether anyone was kicked out for having one. Flags from other nations appears to have been allowed.

The annual Dyke March is billed as a more inclusive event that has a stronger focus on social justice issues than the massive Chicago Pride Parade on Sunday. Some 1,500 people took part in the Dyke March this year.

One of those who was kicked out of the march said she was approached numerous times over her flag. "They were telling me to leave because my flag was a trigger to people that they found offensive," Laurel Grauer said. "Prior to this [march] I had never been harassed or asked to leave and I had always carried the flag with me." Another person who was asked to leave told the Windy City Times that she was made to feel that �as a Jew, I am not welcome here.�

The organizers defended their decision to ask certain demonstrators to leave. A member of the Dyke March Collective spoke to Chicagoist on Sunday and insisted the organization is not anti-Semitic but rather didn�t want to be associated with anything that could be interpreted as pro-Israel. �Yesterday during the rally we saw three individuals carrying Israeli flags super imposed on rainbow flags. Some folks say they are Jewish Pride flags. But as a Collective we are very much pro-Palestine, and when we see these flags we know a lot of folks who are under attack by Israel see the visuals of the flag as a threat, so we don't want anything in the [Dyke March] space that can inadvertently or advertently express Zionism,� she said. �So we asked the folks to please leave. We told them people in the space were feeling threatened.�
The American Jewish Committee condemned the action and called for others to speak up against the move. �In the heart of our city one of the most blatant incidents of anti-Semitism took place today at the Dyke March,� said AJC Chicago Director Amy Stoken. �Where is the collective outrage over this despicable targeting of Jews?�

Last year, Slate�s Mark Joseph Stern explored the growing anti-Semitism that �has begun to tear at the seams of the LGBTQ movement.�

# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 03:11

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Also, HOLY poo poo. How are Pride events not about identity politics?

Now i'm sad because all of CT's Pride events aren't till September.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 03:55

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Senju Kannon posted:

really? that's weird. is it more of a college area thing? cause you'd think they'd have SOMETHING for pride month

I don't know, Maybe they don't wanna compete with New York or Boston Pride Events but also don't wanna hold them in the dead of summer? Hartford Pride starts on the 6th (http://www.hartfordpride.com/) and New Haven Pride doesn't even have a set date yet. Mainly because its a much smaller thing that's only been going for a couple of years. A fer of the other towns also hold their own Pride things but their small scale as well.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 04:10

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

So basically Gay marriage now means loving nothing because the Texas Supreme Court are a bunch of ducking cowards.

gently caress this country

# ¿ Jul 1, 2017 18:26

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Yeah...in texas. I think the broadness of Bigred's statement makes it sound as if they think it applies everywhere.

Yeah, but how long does it take to get things before the supreme court? What if we have another vacancy by then? Also, LBGT couples in Texas are screwed until this gets cleared up.

Sorry, I've just been scared and angry all day because of this and other stuff.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2017 02:10

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

I work a government job...weeeee!

# ¿ Oct 6, 2017 01:04

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

CommieGIR posted:

Trump Administration just pulled support for Stonewall National Monument, in commemoration of the Stonewall Riots

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...cation+Ceremony

So does this mean it's no longer a monument?

Also, question. WHat happened to the Trans thread in The Great Race Space? THe last few forum posts were people talking about underwear?

# ¿ Oct 12, 2017 00:30

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

OHhhhhhhhh....I missed all of that bullshit.

God dammit, why is it so hard to find trans spaces online that don�t fall apart because of bullshit like this or get flooded by anti trans trolls.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2017 16:16

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Thalantos posted:

Yeah, that person doesn't hang out in any of the Troon threads or what have you.

Come hang out with us!

Where doy ou guys hang out?

# ¿ Oct 13, 2017 02:26

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Reposting this from another thread.

So I decided, for the upcoming Trans Awareness Week in my city, to volunteer to put on a presentation on online Safety for Trans people. Part of it is going to cover basic Internet safety stuff. THe kind of stuff you should already know. BUT I want to show people how organized transphobes online work. Where they congregate, how they go about it. Why they do this. Stuff like that. BUT I also dont want this to be scary? I need some advice, how would you pen this?

# ¿ Nov 9, 2017 01:29

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 21:36

BigRed0427: Mar 23, 2007; There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Wait a sec. Doesn't this mean your country will hit a point where no one can run for public office due to dual citizenship?

# ¿ Nov 29, 2017 06:37

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