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Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth
TERFs somehow manage to be even more loving despicable than bible-thumpers.

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Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth

Instant Sunrise posted:

Raymond herself wrote a policy paper arguing that Medicaid/Medicare shouldn't cover transition related procedures and sent it to the Reagan Administration. This paper was used by Reagan as a justification to drop the coverage for Trans-related medical services, and most if not all insurance companies followed suit after that, and it wasn't until fairly recently that trans coverage has been reinstated by insurance providers.

Yardbomb posted:

Jesus christ what a loving shitbag.

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth
Let's focus on celebrating real heroes of gay movement

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth

spotlessd posted:

That's not even what that slogan means and "our cause before yours" is a dumb strawman that has never accurately represented left opposition to identity politics. But of course if that's how the privilege-checkers of the world see things they're welcome to call the FBI as always.

spotlessd posted:

I mean this is a perfectly true fact but you kind of trailed off there. Actively harmful to whom?

Somehow people got the impression that debates around left identity politics are theoretical questions of strategy and priorities. That's bullshit. No one on the left side of that argument had any hope of resisting the self-appointed (brace yourself--they're all rich!) power brokers who put their normative politics in to practice over the objections of their more radical counterparts. It's a done deal. The only question is what happened next and that turns out to be pretty obvious if you're approach to history isn't as fuzzy and sloppy as the person who wrote that article but also just if you have any notion at all of what usually happens when you make a deal with Satan. Access to liberal institutions is great if you're a liberal who still thinks they can just bring in some folding chairs at some future date and get this tide a-risin' but no one who actually needs to see a doctor more than they need to get loving married is really holding their breath.

Honestly its heartwarming to see the Tumblr crowd returning to their old redbaiting schtick in an election season but try to remember whose fault it actually is that we're fighting an incipient fascist insurgency in the first place.
Lmao, you are literally the very thing you claim to not exist. Your mask slips off so easily.

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth

spotlessd posted:

It's pretty easy to see the value of social and legal acceptance when it comes with a big fat bill. Regardless of any theoretical differences (there are many) the principle complaint of activists with marriage equality is the people who prevailed on that line did so by doing what bourgeois parasites do best: hoovering up every last dollar of support in battleground states while the old networks of outreach, health services, and advocacy groups withered and died. People standing in the smoldering crater left behind by marriage equality know exactly what "social acceptance" buys them.
We were going to build socialism but dirty queers stole all the money :(

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth

spotlessd posted:

I mean just consider for a moment that visitation rules didn't actually apply to the parking lots and homeless shelters that came to be the death bed of many AIDS victims and you'll begin to see the line between left and gay disintegrate.
It's currently disintegrating in this thread because you're a huge piece of poo poo.

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Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth

Quorum posted:

In reference to Prester Jane's speculations about the infiltration of American education by the absolute worst of the creepy cultish religious right under Trump, well...

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/801147316296159232
I'm sure Internet Atheist crowd that pulled for Trump as hard as they could will be delighted.

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