Alienation: The newest Housemarque twinstick particle/lighting tech demo

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Pijeus: Feb 24, 2007; Grimey Drawer

Downloading now, looking to play only singleplayer...got burned on difficulty by Helldivers and Dead Nation solo but have high hopes for this, it looks awesome.

# ? Apr 27, 2016 14:53

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# ? May 16, 2024 02:45

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

to your earlier question, the game starts off with handmade levels (enemies are random) and procedural levels come in later.

# ? Apr 27, 2016 16:05

Kilometers Davis: Jul 9, 2007; They begin again

Real hurthling! posted:

to your earlier question, the game starts off with handmade levels (enemies are random) and procedural levels come in later.

Thanks!

This game is wonderful solo. It's Diablo + Super Stardust but it has a very strong personality of its own. The alien designs are all really cool and blasting them hasn't even slightly began to get boring.

# ? Apr 27, 2016 23:40

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

Pubbie veteran is pretty annoying. Hosts have no idea they control where the party goes

# ? Apr 27, 2016 23:47

Feenix: Mar 14, 2003; Sorry, guy.

How (or when, maybe? ) do I invade?

# ? Apr 28, 2016 00:59

Awesome!: Oct 17, 2008; Ready for adventure!

i think theres an option to do it when you select your mission and you get the list of active squads

# ? Apr 28, 2016 01:01

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

This game is great. I really enjoy the ohshi experience of solo but the co-op business is where it becomes the greatest. I appreciate being able to jump in and play the entire game with randoms that smoothly and flawlessly. Gonna do a Bio-specialist that way. So nice.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 01:13

Neon Knight: Jan 14, 2009

Real hurthling! posted:

Pubbie veteran is pretty annoying. Hosts have no idea they control where the party goes

The worst is the ones who want to do the long walks to complete ever optional challenge. There are more challenges next mission man, come on!

# ? Apr 28, 2016 01:46

Schroeder91: Jul 5, 2007

I can be guilty of that :v

I wanna platinum this game but level 30 Hardcore character sounds insane. I'm level 15 and I've died a ton already and still do.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 01:54

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

I wanna learn all about the game, find the best most careful awesome goons, then I wanna give the lv30 hardcore squad challenge a shot.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 02:04

Feenix: Mar 14, 2003; Sorry, guy.

Awesome! posted:

i think theres an option to do it when you select your mission and you get the list of active squads

Oh I see. Anyone been invaded yet? What's that like?

# ? Apr 28, 2016 02:06

Neon Knight: Jan 14, 2009

Feenix posted:

Oh I see. Anyone been invaded yet? What's that like?

I joined a game with invasions turned on. Higher levels dudes would drop in and slaughter someone and then disappear. Not too fun. Maybe at level 30 it will be more even.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 02:08

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

for saboteur i highly recommend ignoring all the melee skills
as sweet as the plasma swords are, shotgun covers the same arc and kills in two shots instead of one so whatever and those points in stealth, athelete, and air strike will go much farther towards keeping your frail rear end alive vs trying to be a melee class.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 02:19

Danith: May 20, 2006; I've lurked here for years

Ugg pubbies.. If anyone else is on around this time for a hour or 2, add xDanith and lets group (currently level 9). Or just add me and we can group if we see each other online

Edit: I also created a community called GoonNation since there didn't seem to be one. Join and post your screenshots

Danith fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 28, 2016

# ? Apr 28, 2016 02:23

Paracausal: Sep 5, 2011; Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Would love an invite from any goons who needs bodies to kill some xenos
TG_Chronocide

# ? Apr 28, 2016 03:03

SilverMike: Sep 17, 2007; TBD

Real hurthling! posted:

for saboteur i highly recommend ignoring all the melee skills
as sweet as the plasma swords are, shotgun covers the same arc and kills in two shots instead of one so whatever and those points in stealth, athelete, and air strike will go much farther towards keeping your frail rear end alive vs trying to be a melee class.

On the other hand, my SMG that drops a grenade on melee and revolver that shoots a boomerang on melee are making close-quarters pay off. And I gotta say the skill that lets your power strike arc give you health back goes together nicely with the swords, especially solo.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 03:30

Neon Knight: Jan 14, 2009

Real hurthling! posted:

for saboteur i highly recommend ignoring all the melee skills
as sweet as the plasma swords are, shotgun covers the same arc and kills in two shots instead of one so whatever and those points in stealth, athelete, and air strike will go much farther towards keeping your frail rear end alive vs trying to be a melee class.

Disagree! I don't see what the worth of cloaking is, those points are better spent getting to the second last tier of plasma sword at least. The sword can pretty much erase one or two chunks of medium sized mobs and buy you a lot of breathing room with hordes. Shotguns are fine, but what your goto secondary is will probably be up to luck. I have a legendary powershot I would be dumb not to use, which is fine for lines of dudes but if something in my face needs to die while I'm reloading I am swording it.

I am on world state 2 now, pretty much new game plus. Difficulty/rewards ramps up and a few new enemies seem to show up more often than before. Also unlocks bounties you can take that usually require you to get 5-20 kills of certain enemy types with restrictions on weapon use or location. Can be a little frustrating hunting them down during regular play if you want to stay on veteran, dying resets progress.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 03:42

Schroeder91: Jul 5, 2007

The assignments are cool but it kinda sucks to get one for a place you don't have unlocked yet since the campaign restarts, which is my own fault sure, but the rewards are so nice!

# ? Apr 28, 2016 03:45

Bruc: May 30, 2006

Do you ever get pieces of equipment that reduce cooldown cost of abilities? I like them and all but I feel like I barely use them, I think I would enjoy this much more if it had a constantly ticking cooldown on abilities.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 04:09

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

The game begins when you finish it for the first time, but if I had known you get pushed into NG+ like that I would have stayed behind and grinded.

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Apr 28, 2016

# ? Apr 28, 2016 04:39

Neon Knight: Jan 14, 2009

MrLonghair posted:

The game begins when you finish it for the first time, but if I had known you get pushed into NG+ like that I would have stayed behind and grinded.

If you want some cakewalk missions to grind on just set it to rookie. Or join World 2 games started by folks of lower level than you, difficulty is set in relation to the host I think.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 05:17

Feenix: Mar 14, 2003; Sorry, guy.

Neon Knight posted:

I joined a game with invasions turned on. Higher levels dudes would drop in and slaughter someone and then disappear. Not too fun. Maybe at level 30 it will be more even.

I just invaded like 5 different games. It's way too unfair in favor of the invader. I slaughtered everyone, every time.
I'm not even that high level. I'm level, like, 6...

# ? Apr 28, 2016 05:23

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

beat the campaign. they make you earn it in the final mission.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 08:55

El Cid: Mar 17, 2005; What good is power when you're too wise to use it?; Grimey Drawer

Feenix posted:

Oh I see. Anyone been invaded yet? What's that like?

It seemed kind of bullshit to me. I was hosting a game (with invasions turned off as far as I am aware, can people who have it turned on join as a friendly and force it on or something? Or I guess maybe I turned it on accidentally or it was a bug?)

The invasion itself wasn't so bad... the first time. I had one random teammate and while we took some damage we managed to kill him before he killed either of us. The same dude just chain joined as an invader, every time he either killed me (the host) or we killed him he'd be back in a minute or so, same guy every time.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 15:19

ufarn: May 30, 2009

Some observations after playing the game for a bit:

Hardcore is, as always, where the fun is.
If you play Softcore on anything less than Veteran, you're a dweeb, and the game will be tremendously dull.
After you do the spaceship mission, you can go back to the South American mission to farm and do bosses and Challenges, the latter of which just opened up. You will get some great loot and some tough enemies.
The difficulty after the Spaceship is no joke. If you play these the first time as Hardcore, you might very well die, as awesome as you think you are. On Professional, too. Some of the mechanics also change without giving anything away.
At least on Hardcore, you'll want at least one crowd-clearing (anti-Horde) weapon (Shotgun/Minigun/Flamethrower; Shotgun is a requirement as far as I'm concerned). The Boomerang is pretty much better than anything else, especially for clearing crowds and straight lines of mobs.
Re-rolling is very expensive, but if you're around the Spaceship level, you might want to explore re-rolling your high-level purples to save your bacon on Hardcore.
Crafting/Upgrading: Upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. Always You can boost your damage output a lot. The white sockets can fit whatever; the coloured rings require the particular part, I believe. Don't upgrade your materials, unless you've got at least 10, since you'll risk not having enough parts for upgrading.
Fighting in open areas will kill you. The Horde should be a relief for you, if you know what you're doing, since you'll get a bunch of ammo and health. You may need to use one of your active AOEs, if they crowd you too much on occasion.
If you play Tank in a team without upgrading your Shield first, you're a bloody idiot.

Specific to Hardcore:

Surviving solo on Hardcore becomes increasingly unfeasible; you have to face Horde alone, and you can take turns diverting the attention of enemies
There's no shame in taking down the difficulty a notch in Hardcore every now and then. ESPECIALLY when soloing.
Start off upgrading your passive at the bottom. It basically revive you, when you die and more, but I can't figure out the cooldown mechanic.
Being cocky and rushing ahead will get you killed eventually. Evidently.
Oh, and if you're in a bad spot, you can just go to the menu and quit. It's kinda dumb, I guess, but maybe they'll nerf it with a timer like Diablo. For now, use the hell out of it.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 28, 2016

# ? Apr 28, 2016 18:50

cage-free egghead: Mar 8, 2004

I will say that it is a bit disappointing that:

1. Skill cooldowns are super long most of the time which makes things a bit boring. Maybe scale down the cooldowns and scale down damage/effectiveness?

2. Passive skills are the same exact thing across the classes. It shouldn't be that hard to come up with good synergies for each of them utilizing their specialties.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 18:57

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

Lblitzer posted:

I will say that it is a bit disappointing that:

1. Skill cooldowns are super long most of the time which makes things a bit boring. Maybe scale down the cooldowns and scale down damage/effectiveness?

2. Passive skills are the same exact thing across the classes. It shouldn't be that hard to come up with good synergies for each of them utilizing their specialties.

they aren't cool downs. you need to collect tokens to fill them up.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 19:00

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

I take it back. The game begins when you finish it and start NG+, doing it with other players and on Veteran mode. My review has this at 6 out of 5 points.

Action: Melee at enemy
Effect: Grenade
:v:

# ? Apr 28, 2016 19:31

bubbapook: Jan 14, 2008

Absolutely loving the game, playing most nights and looking to party up for Goontimes. PSN is DD_Bubba, added my id to the sheet.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 19:38

SilverMike: Sep 17, 2007; TBD

MrLonghair posted:

I take it back. The game begins when you finish it and start NG+, doing it with other players and on Veteran mode. My review has this at 6 out of 5 points.

Action: Melee at enemy
Effect: Grenade

After picking up a gun with the same but Boomerang, you can understand why I was excited to see an SMG drop with that.

Then I learned it put the grenade at my feet and welp. Not quite as awesome.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 19:45

Schroeder91: Jul 5, 2007

Does rerolling sockets change them anymore than different color? Got a new legendary primary and unfortunately it doesn't have a special socket. I rerolled like 4 times and all that changes were the colors, it seems the socket count remains the same. Either way, I went from a level 13 14k DPS primary to a level 19 52k DPS primary :haw:

# ? Apr 28, 2016 19:50

cage-free egghead: Mar 8, 2004

Real hurthling! posted:

they aren't cool downs. you need to collect tokens to fill them up.

I meant it more in the sense that the time in between when you can use them is generally long because of the requirement to collect the tokens. I think it would be good to have more of a reliance on skills and create a timer with tokens that speed them up instead of requiring collecting them.

Having the classes be a bit more diverse in their roles would be great. Why not have a bio-gun for the Bio Specialist that has AOE or DOTs or a healgun similar to TF2? Or have the tank have some sort of aggro skill. Stuff like that. I mean we are treading the line with serious RPG mechanics with the loot drops and weapon stats, why not push that a bit more?

Also, there is a disappointing amount of weapons. The game is a blast to play but it just misses on a few things that I feel would really make it amazing.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 20:09

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

SilverMike posted:

After picking up a gun with the same but Boomerang, you can understand why I was excited to see an SMG drop with that.

Then I learned it put the grenade at my feet and welp. Not quite as awesome.

Melee + dash away is how I use it, turns out to be an insanely handy crowd-control form. Just a waste of a secondary weapon slot being a lv19 rare Powershot in my opinion.

So much loot drops online in NG+ Veteran, this is hella Diablo. Just wish there were a bit more choices in weapons, like instead of being stuck with SMG always on Saboteur etc.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 20:23

Deviant: Sep 26, 2003; i've forgotten all of your names.

Is there an IRC or PSN group for this?

# ? Apr 28, 2016 20:27

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

MrLonghair posted:

Melee + dash away is how I use it, turns out to be an insanely handy crowd-control form. Just a waste of a secondary weapon slot being a lv19 rare Powershot in my opinion.

So much loot drops online in NG+ Veteran, this is hella Diablo. Just wish there were a bit more choices in weapons, like instead of being stuck with SMG always on Saboteur etc.

new primaries would have to be in the first dlc i'd hope.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 20:33

SilverMike: Sep 17, 2007; TBD

MrLonghair posted:

Melee + dash away is how I use it, turns out to be an insanely handy crowd-control form. Just a waste of a secondary weapon slot being a lv19 rare Powershot in my opinion.

Ditto, I just preferred the boomerang so I wouldn't blow myself up. Probably less of an issue once I get the movespeed passive and don't need to dash out of the radius.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 20:35

Awesome!: Oct 17, 2008; Ready for adventure!

Lblitzer posted:

I meant it more in the sense that the time in between when you can use them is generally long because of the requirement to collect the tokens.

yeah i think i would like it if the energy token drop rate was slightly increased. not a huge buff just a little bit

# ? Apr 28, 2016 21:17

SilverMike: Sep 17, 2007; TBD

Jesus Christ why does every 2nd random idiot on this game not understand how to follow a minimap or a white arrow?

# ? Apr 28, 2016 22:26

ufarn: May 30, 2009

SilverMike posted:

Jesus Christ why does every 2nd random idiot on this game not understand how to follow a minimap or a white arrow?

Because that's generally how you get the good loot. Especially when Challenges are available.

# ? Apr 28, 2016 23:08

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# ? May 16, 2024 02:45

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

Going through NG+ online I'm happy if the host doesn't push us towards the helicopter at the end, we all need gear and levels. I wish I could take screenshots of some of the awesome chaos, even made it slow down once when hell broke loose in several hell already breaking loose, but my fingers are just so happily busy.

Solo it's a cool solid sci-fi topdown shooter challenge, multi it gets so much better.

# ? Apr 29, 2016 00:14

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