|
This show continues to be hilarious, but I would like the plot turns to settle down just a little bit. I really like the parts of the earlier seasons where they were actually working on building something. Season 3 and 4 so far it seems like every episode is just "everything is turned upside down!" Richard leaves Pied Piper and Dinesh becomes CEO of the newly branded PiperChat Dinesh tanks PiperChat and hands it off to Gavin Belson Gavin *gets fired from Hooli* Richard goes to Gavin and gets him to partner for the PiperNet or whatever Gavin Leaves. In as many episodes. At this rate I expect the next episode to start with Gavin walking into the house and directing a team of movers installing workinstations and Richard is like "What the gently caress Gavin, I thought you left to find yourself" "I did. I mean I found myself. I was a garage all along. I bought this house." Also I was hoping that Dinesh being CEO would give him a chance to stop being a huge piece of poo poo, but I guess that's never gonna happen.
|
#
¿
May 22, 2017 18:08
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 12, 2024 09:34 |
|
|
Yeah, Richard has managed to act progressively more and more childish as the show has gone on. It would bother me, except that it's doing a good job of showing how someone like S1 Richard turns into Gavin Belson. edit: ^ Yeah. Part of what sucked me in initially was that it was a good comedy and also a solid drama. The drama part is basically completely gone because every single thing is just reversed by completely random events. I'm not saying I want it to be a serious show, but it's not possible, as a viewer, to invest in the outcome of anything anymore. It use to be when they scraped by and secured funding I was like "phew, they did it!" and now it's like, "who cares? some random poo poo is gonna gently caress it up right away". Snak fucked around with this message at 18:31 on May 22, 2017 |
|
#
¿
May 22, 2017 18:29
|
|
|
I don't think that a single thing in this show is made up. Like, obviously the algorithm is, and the actual events aren't really realistic, but all the stuff they talk about is actually real poo poo.
|
|
#
¿
May 22, 2017 18:35
|
|
|
I mean, I don't think we're supposed to agree with what Richard says. I think it's been pretty deliberate that we're seeing Richard learn the wrong lessons from his limited success. And we know for a fact from his Tabs/Spaces fanaticism that he's a really snobbish dick about some things for no other reason than personal bias. And even Richard's immediate "of course you can come work for me, Dinesh" feels odd. LIke, yeah, it makes sense, but Dinesh was a huge dick to him after he recommended Dinesh be CEO. Then literally 10 seconds after finding out that Dinesh ratted out his girfriend to the FBI just to get out of a relationship with her, he hires him. Like, I find all the characters of this show wildly entertaining, but if one character has proven time and time again that they are incompetant and you shouldn't trust or work with them, it's Dinesh. He hosed up the DBAN that was supposed to nuke Pied Piper, he's a serial liar to try to sleep with women, he both publically admitted to "stealing" HooliChat and failed to protect his own product with due diligence. And he bailed on SeeFood as soon as he didn't like it. He's not a person than can plan ahead or own up to his mistakes, and his capabilities are questionable at best. But sure, of course he is hired. Like, I'm not saying that Richard shouldn't hire him, I'm just saying that Richard is obviously not being objective in most of his decisions. Richard really needs to take better advantage of his most useful and powerful asset: Jared.Jared is hopelessly devoted to Richard, loyal to a fault, and has more business knowledge than everyone else in the show put together. Richard is dismissive of him for the same reason he's dismissive of Blood Boy: He sees him an outsider. When Richard left PiperChat, the fact that he didn't beg Jared to come with him showed how clueless he is about the whole situation. Jared would have come with him in an instant and helped him navigate the whole situation. Also the funniest part of last episode was when, after getting the transfusion, Gavin called Jared by his real name, Donald. Also, What the gently caress are they doing with Monica? Awhile back, there was a really solid hook for her to be fired by Laurie and then be hired by PiperChat, which would be the perfect reason for her to be more involved in the story. But instead she's just been kind of putsing around these deadend side plots that don't go anywhere. In the first season, they did a good job of showing her as a struggling professional, and giving her agency in the story. Now she doesn't do anything and she's just including in a plot that happens around her. Hopefully the new developement that happened this episode gives her something to do.
|
|
#
¿
May 22, 2017 19:08
|
|
|
I just think it's dumb that they set up her coming to work for Pied Piper and then ditched it to do nothing with her instead.
|
|
#
¿
May 22, 2017 19:47
|
|
|
I'm gonna miss Gavin, he's been a really entertaining part of the show since the beginning.
|
|
#
¿
May 23, 2017 18:00
|
|
|
I mean, Gavin yelling profanity when his couch caught on fire was amazingly funny, just because of established characters and good comedic timing. I don't think the show is suffering at all as a comedy. I just think the drama side of things that was really strong in the first season and a half has really faltered. The show can certainly continue just fine as "just" a sitcom, but I will miss the more coherent story aspect that helped hook me initially.
|
|
#
¿
May 24, 2017 21:30
|
|
|
Yeah, it's hard to pick a favorite character on this show when they're all so loving funny.
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2017 18:05
|
|
|
Nope, he's still the best. edit: ^ just watched that episode. The best part isn't even the vision quest, it's when he comes back having kidnapped that kid who he thinks is himself from the future.
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2017 20:35
|
|
|
I don't want that to happen because then won't Jian Yang have to go away too?
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2017 21:00
|
|
|
Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything, but it's pretty lame.
|
|
#
¿
May 25, 2017 21:08
|
|
|
empty baggie posted:I wonder if this means the end of the Aviato/Pied Piper house. I hope that Jian Yang somehow owns the house next. Either because he somehow inherits it, or through some kind if squatter law.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 01:14
|
|
|
anime was right posted:im pretty sure he could just... buy it. That's not as funny though.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 02:02
|
|
|
I agree with the above post.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 17:25
|
|
|
But it's not that. It's Erlich is leaving this season. Not everyone follows news about shows, nor should they be expected to. This is how the spoiler discussion always goes: "I don't consider that a spoiler, and you shouldn't either". Instead of just being considerate.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 17:50
|
|
|
I just feel like erring on the side of being considerate to people who might want to be surprised is the polite thing to do. There are lots of other threada where peole drop links by saying "casting spoilers: link" Because sometimes it's like "guy is cast as character's dad" which means tha character may actually meat their dad which is something people didn't expect and is kind of a stoey spoiler. Also, when you say something like "news source reports that Jian Yang murders Erlich this season", it's only apparent that that is a joke to people who reas the link. People who don't want to know casting spoilers don't read the link. Just be considerate. Edit: ^ did you even read the next sentence after the one you bolded?
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 17:58
|
|
|
Yeah, and thats, fair. I get it. I basically don't read entertainment news at all.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 18:05
|
|
|
Again, it's still available to people who read entertainment news. Some people don't because it's mostly terrible opinions and sometimes spoilers.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 18:09
|
|
|
The worst is when you're working in some language where whitespace is actually part the code, like Python, and they get mixed, and then you load it into an editor with a different tabs to spaces conversion and you're just hosed. Edit: I'm very torn on Richard's views, because I do orefer tabs over spaces, but I also use vim over emacs.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 18:20
|
|
|
priznat posted:I want to know Richard's views on text editors that convert tab keypresses to spaces. It seemed like he was bothered by the tap tap tap of spacebar so perhaps that is ok. He specifically argued that spaces bloat file sizes, and as a compression specialist, that really bothered him.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 18:47
|
|
|
Eight spaces is super wasteful.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 18:56
|
|
|
winvirus posted:Anyone who unironically uses spaces over tabs should be banned from computers. Spaces definitely have their purpose if you're "pretty formatting" code and lining up stuff across lines. Now, the value of that is it's own debate, but you can't do it with tabs.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 19:19
|
|
|
I don't write a lot of python... If I was using just 1 ide, I would configure it to make 4 spaces when I hit the tab button, but I use all manner of different text editors, so tab being tabs is what I'm used to.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 20:33
|
|
|
That joke also had a great callback when they were all worried Richard was gonna hire that one rear end in a top hat, and then Richard just said, offhandedly "Oh, don't worry, I'm not hiring him. he uses spaces instead of tabs"
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 20:58
|
|
|
Sorry, I wasn't in the thread then, I just brought it up as a joke. That's ridiculous, also.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 21:05
|
|
|
Wow, that's even worse. I just thought it was funny there was a off-the-cuff callback a season later. I'm waiting for SeeFood and NipAlert to merge into some killer app, and Jian Yang and Bighead become partners.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 21:21
|
|
|
PittTheElder posted:Other than the company names, and the fact that Weissman scores are made up, Silicon Valley is basically a documentary. Weissman scores are funnier than that: Wikipedia posted:The Weissman score is an efficiency metric for lossless compression applications, which was developed for fictional use. It compares both required time and compression ratio of measured applications, with those of a de facto standard according to the data type. It was developed by Tsachy Weissman, a professor at Stanford, and Vinith Misra, a graduate student, at the request of producers for HBO's television series Silicon Valley, about a fictional tech start-up. [1][2][3][4] So yeah, they were made up for the show, but are technically real.
|
|
#
¿
May 26, 2017 21:40
|
|
|
Yeah, that blows my mind, too. Like, I get it. It's because they only ever encounter Vim when like a git commit launches them into it or something, but still...
|
|
#
¿
May 28, 2017 21:36
|
|
|
It was one of the weaker episodes so far, but still had its moments. Gavin was even in this one!
|
|
#
¿
May 29, 2017 08:05
|
|
|
He seems like one of those people who's really funny because they are an abrasive dick.
|
|
#
¿
May 29, 2017 09:07
|
|
|
I mean, yeah. Abrasive dickishness is funny to observe, but less so to experience.
|
|
#
¿
May 29, 2017 10:11
|
|
|
I think they're definitely ramping up the animosity between them. And you can tell that they know hitting people is crossing a line, because the violence spills over to poor Jared, and we get that shot of him looking sad with a a big red mark on his face from Dinesh hitting him.
|
|
#
¿
May 29, 2017 16:19
|
|
|
I don't even remember him in that. Who was he?
|
|
#
¿
May 29, 2017 17:25
|
|
|
Jian Yang's presentation has been "tempered' but by the fact that Erlich is the only person who treats him like a racist stereotype, which is nm in character for Erlich. They need to figure out wther Jian Yang is going to be a one-note stereotype joke, or a more full fledged commentary on a real aspect of Silicon Valley. Like, I think that Jian Yang's character isn't any more offensive than any of the other stereotypes portrayed, but whether I continue to feel that way depends on whether he gets any character growth. Like, I honestly think he's a really sympathetic character so far. The perspective that his original idea for SeaFood, thatbhe wanted to share make an app to share his families recioes for octopus, isn't dumb all. Erlich thinks it's dumb because it's not profitable, which Erlich views as a betreyal. But we've met Erlich, do we really think he's the victim in whatever the initial circumstances of Jian Yang's move-in were? I think the writers have a lot of room to grow Jian Yang as a character, especially considering thay most of his characterization so far has been through the lens of Erlich Bachman.
|
|
#
¿
May 30, 2017 08:37
|
|
|
Rexides posted:The article was not about whether the actor of Jian Yang was ok with the show's portrayal of his character. That's correct, but the actor has as valid of an opinion as anyone as to why the character isn't necissarily a racist stereotype.
|
|
#
¿
May 30, 2017 10:19
|
|
|
maskenfreiheit posted:Did they ever say who Laurie's baby daddy is? No, but considering it's apparently her fourth kid, she's probably married or cloning herself or something.
|
|
#
¿
May 30, 2017 20:12
|
|
|
Cojawfee posted:If they ever do show Laurie's other kids, I really hope they don't do that lame "the kids are super sperglords just like the parent" trope. It's also just as big a trope for them to be everyman non-nerds. So I hope they do something more interesting than either.
|
|
#
¿
May 30, 2017 20:43
|
|
|
Aww, the guy who dubs his voice in Spanish...
|
|
#
¿
May 31, 2017 03:26
|
|
|
Basically everything Jian Yang has done to screw over Erlich was out of frustration of now being able to do what he wanted. My impression of Jian Yang is that he is a person who is a victim of the "get a cs degree and go to silicon valley and get rich" pitch. It's nothing like he was told it would be and he never gets to do anything that he wants. He's real bitter about it, and Erlich is literally the figurehead for the lies and exploitation he is subjected to, so it makes sense that he pulls one over when he can. Which is mostly when Erlich explains to him how hard it is to evict someone and then tries to evict him...
|
|
#
¿
May 31, 2017 07:31
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 12, 2024 09:34 |
|
|
Donald. Donald. Donald. Jared. Jared...
|
|
#
¿
May 31, 2017 08:26
|
|