FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

that's up to you to stop posting

Despera posted:

My apologies for ruining your life that is this thread

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

that's up to you to stop posting

JMax posted:

Epsilon won then

VideoGames posted:

I LIKE COOKIE posted:

wait i watched a youtube video and i thought i should focus on industry, memory, and intelligence? whatever those mean I havnt played this game since early 07? was it really that long ago or am I confused with how long this games been going?

anyways I'm kinda just trying to figure how the controls without the tutorial and its proving to be harder to remember than I thought. doing the mining career job opportunities thing. which the youtube video told me to do

I LIKE COOKIE posted:

what if i care less about having the coolest ship and missiles and just want to specialize in something worth botting or something automatic and repeptative that gives good gains or is sought after or something?. is that legal in this game? and keep it going on my phone while I'm out skating and stuff and treat it more like a phone game than a real game?. with little regard to getting banned because lol eve the spaceship game

I have no clue what that entails and havnt even looked into botting. what do goons think of botting this giant space game that holds the country of Iceland's economy or whatever.

is it punishable in Iceland to bot or do bad things in this game btw? serious question

I LIKE COOKIE posted:

what if i care less about having the coolest ship and missiles and just want to specialize in something worth botting or something automatic and repeptative that gives good gains or is sought after or something?. is that legal in this game? and keep it going on my phone while I'm out skating and stuff and treat it more like a phone game than a real game?. with little regard to getting banned because lol eve the spaceship game

I have no clue what that entails and havnt even looked into botting. what do goons think of botting this giant space game that holds the country of Iceland's economy or whatever.

is it punishable in Iceland to bot or do bad things in this game btw? serious question

I LIKE COOKIE posted:

either way, botting or not- I'm still going to try the game out and take mining for a spin. If someone has advice for me and would rather reach me ingame my name is cookieoh. I'm a pretty serious noob and am currently confused on how I do the implants thing I apparently need to do

Unfunny Poster posted:

OK, so here's going to be a small post of stuff that, honestly, is probably lovely thinking on my part and also pretty hugely speculative based on what CCP say they want to do with Aegis and the roadmap they've shown the past few years.

I think that, ideally, most alliances/crews are going to want to cram themselves into 2-3 regions max depending on their relative size and on their activity. If you look at Providence's ADM (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Providence#adm) they're almost all at 6 ADM which is the max because they actively use their space etc. Coincidentally I did a stream the other day talking about the history of the building of Providence that was kind of fun (VOD here: https://www.twitch.tv/eve_nt_tv/v/62164111 ).

When you look at Providence and compare it to let's say Branch circa January 2016 (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Branch/2016-01-01#adm) there's a huge difference. Sure Branch is removed from empire so, logistically speaking, it takes more effort but you're also in a relatively save area of the game at that time what with The Imperium having sway of the land there. Hell even Deklein wasn't that good in terms of its ADM spread (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Deklein/2016-01-01#adm). CCP heavily have implied cramming people into regions/constellations is ideally what these changes will want to do. For example Fountain, prior to this war, had relatively better ADM spread than Branch & Deklein (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fountain/2016-01-01#adm). I think, personally, in a post-World War Bee world GSF & allies are better off focusing on a region or two that are decent ratting but also borders empire. Assuming the plan is to take back and hold sovereignty.I understand there are issues related to income in null versus low, wormholes, and highsec, however for the moment it's worth noting that if you want to live in nullsec and own space land you'll ignore that to some degree.

I don't know what option there are regarding the people who live far out in the boonies of space for the time being, mechanically speaking I have no idea what you can do other than have agreements or be very very smart & clever with how you get your stuff out there. Guys like Drone Walkers are going to have to work hard to get poo poo into Tenal more so than say someone like TISHU out in Cloud Ring. Now this is going to delve into rampant speculation around CCP's plans & roadmap, specifically player created stargates. I personally think CCP should make it so players can build, and will have to defend, player stargates between the boonie regions (eg. Omist, Outer Passage, Tenal, Period Basis etc.) and empire regions they can build a connection to. I won't touch on the idea of connecting wormhole systems in this bit but that could also be a cool function. Anyway, allowing players out in Period Basis to build a singular stargate that connects to empire allows for a bit of an ease for logistics and importing for them, and with some limits (eg. only one player made stargate can be connected to a relatively close empire region, maybe even only allow that to specific regions out in the boonies, etc.) would make sense to me. It'd resolve a lot of those issues where "it's super tough to live out here without any NIP/Blueing up of people in the regions we need to go through with our JFs."

Again that's just rampant fanboying and speculation of a cool game design/mechanic I think could make deep null regions viable and usable more so than they have been in probably their entire existance. That said I'll repeat that it's probably lovely for a lot of reasons and is all kinds of bad ideas and probably I did a poor job explaining stuff as I'm actually supposed to be doing The JEFFRAIDER Show right now and not writing this but people are talking about Citadels and my eyes glazed over from not understanding that stuff.

Hopefully this is at least a glimpse into my thought process about how Aegis sov & CCPs roadmap could be really good, and I'm sorry if it's a jumbled mess of words and bad ideas.

Foehammer007 posted:

What's the next ship you will go for VG?

Foehammer007 posted:

What's the next ship you will go for VG?

Xachariah posted:

I suggest a Retriever, Hulk or Procurer called Boulder.

Helicon One posted:

I broadly agree, but consolidating nullsec groups into smaller territories will just mean you get less friction between groups competing for space, if you don't have either a growing server population or an increased incentive to go out there and fight for that space. CCP seems to have based Aegis sov on ignoring those two realities, pretending that if only the big evil coalitions weren't squatting on all that space, nullsec would be unshackled and we'd see some glorious smallgang 0.0 PVPtopia of good fights on every gate. The other option is that they know the reality all too well, but are actively trying to starve the beast of large scale warfare and territorial conquest, because they intend to pivot the game towards a new audience who are here for the Fun Per Hour and demand content on a plate without any of the unpleasantries.

Zephyrine posted:

Skiff.

CommonShore posted:

Prospect

Helicon One posted:

I broadly agree, but consolidating nullsec groups into smaller territories will just mean you get less friction between groups competing for space, if you don't have either a growing server population or an increased incentive to go out there and fight for that space. CCP seems to have based Aegis sov on ignoring those two realities, pretending that if only the big evil coalitions weren't squatting on all that space, nullsec would be unshackled and we'd see some glorious smallgang 0.0 PVPtopia of good fights on every gate. The other option is that they know the reality all too well, but are actively trying to starve the beast of large scale warfare and territorial conquest, because they intend to pivot the game towards a new audience who are here for the Fun Per Hour and demand content on a plate without any of the unpleasantries.

Endie posted:

I dunno: Querious, Delve and Fountain are already patchworks which, until everyone with a pulse and a penchant for PvP headed north, had quite healthy numbers of fights. Even in the last 24 hours Querious had about 800 kills. Cloud Ring and other regions may well be similar but I am less aware of what's going on there.

As regards trying to get rid of the unpleasantries and increasing the "fun per hour", maybe that's a good aim for a game developer to have for their product?

Funso Banjo posted:

Is the game down?

Glory of Arioch posted:

i lost a rapier recently

im bad at pvp

also i didn't file for reimbursement, far beneath my station

VideoGames posted:

attached by Gurmistas

Unfunny Poster posted:

I sort of feel like its cheating to use Querious as an example as that's a thunderdome with NIPs regarding sov structures.

Endie posted:

That's a sandbox for you.

Endie posted:

I dunno: Querious, Delve and Fountain are already patchworks which, until everyone with a pulse and a penchant for PvP headed north, had quite healthy numbers of fights. Even in the last 24 hours Querious had about 800 kills. Cloud Ring and other regions may well be similar but I am less aware of what's going on there.

As regards trying to get rid of the unpleasantries and increasing the "fun per hour", maybe that's a good aim for a game developer to have for their product?

go3 posted:

who was the guy zataaki always loving argued with

luminalflux posted:

I miss my Zataaki Tachypoc

Unfunny Poster posted:

If you look at Providence's ADM (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Providence#adm) they're almost all at 6 ADM which is the max because they actively use their space etc.


CCP heavily have implied cramming people into regions/constellations is ideally what these changes will want to do.