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Mange Mite posted:Oh ok i though it was just sort of sliding around down there Even then, the kid racking a bullet and disarming the safety might have given the game away. Unless the guy was idiot enough to not only treat his gun like a wallet or phone, but leave it loaded and ready to fire. Who knows, maybe it was a wheel gun and the child just fired it. 2 year olds are strong enough. But don't the holsters have have thumb-snaps? The fact the child sounds like he was not belted and the grandmother had a 1 year old on her lap in the front seat tells me that this family were not really deep thinkers. Jesus christ what an dumb way to die. It's not really a gun law issue. You can't really legislate for that kind of stupidity.
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They hand you the kid when it's born and then hand you a beer. If you drop the kid to reach for the beer they throw your baby in the baby-trash.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:02
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Serious Frolicking posted:the whole seat belt situation was incredibly unsafe, but unlike the dumb florida horse lady this one had no idea that there was a gun in the car and presumably never taught her child how to use one. so naturally this is the one who died. It didn't hurt that she was also incredibly smug about her four year old knowing how to use a gun. I feel bad for this lady. So many poor choices that don't mean much on their own but add up to a horrible thing happening. Like it was said. It's not so much about guns as about poor safety in general. It could easily have been a car accident or anything else. The Florida woman was so called "educated" about firearms so she has no loving excuse for inflicting that on her kid.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:15
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Mange Mite posted:If you are carrying a gun in a holster in uniform it should be loaded and ready to fire. Otherwise what's the point I thought it was stowed under a car seat? I know highly trained people in services walk around with only the final safety as they are in immediate danger and practically sleep with their guns. But I seriously doubt they jam their loaded, cocked pistols under the car seat that they loan to their girlfriend and her family. Never mind the fact the guy is a civilian security guard and that argument does not really cut much ice. And if the guy feels the need to get a weapon without a safety for a job that's primary function is defusing violence and not escalating it then the guy is a loving dope who can't buy the right gun for the right job. That is the attitude of the Florida mom who thought because she was so comfortable with guns she got complacent and started seeing it as an accessory rather than a tool.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:48
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Myron Baloney posted:Hardly anyone who carries a handgun for their job in 2016 is going to have a gun with a safety catch, period. Glocks and similar pistols have "safety features" rather than an external safety and if a round is chambered pulling the trigger will fire it. And yes, jamming a holstered loaded pistol under the seat is pretty irresponsible even if you don't plan on letting anyone borrow your car. And who knows why he carries as security? Maybe he works for an armored car company that dictates if you work for them you carry a piece. Ok, sure. I don't actually own a gun so I just assumed that a lot of guns had at least a 2-3 step safety. You obviously are better informed than me on this one. As for the guy, we can spend all day speculating on his lifestyle and career but it doesn't change the fact I think he was a dumbass who got his girlfriend killed through negligence. The few people I knew who carried guns for security professionally were always fastidious about safety so I assumed it was the done thing. I just don't understand this guys thinking, I just think there is no excuse.
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