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Ogianres posted:Currently looking through and trying to research the Secretary of State options in the OR ballot, anyone have a quick rundown of what I should be looking for to actually distinguish the better candidate between R. Devlin and B. Avakian? They both employ some good sounding rhetoric and boast impressive endorsements/prior political activity, but I'd really like to be able to delve into their connections and see who's more sincere and devoted to Progressive values. I voted for Avakian because he gave the Sweet Cakes morons a huge fine. Richard Devlin consistantly gets re-elected by people from Lake Oswego if that tells you anything.
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smg77 posted:I voted for Avakian because he gave the Sweet Cakes morons a huge fine. Richard Devlin consistantly gets re-elected by people from Lake Oswego if that tells you anything. yeah i've just got through his okay moderate-left voting record on to his issue priorities and took a bunch of red flags to the face, definitely starting to feel avakian
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Vox Nihili posted:My bog standard democratic congressman is facing a primary challenge from a hyper-corporate candidate dressing himself in the trappings of a movement candidate. wow a few people were worried this would happen after bernie's run, kinda nuts that its already happening.
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Ogianres posted:yeah i've just got through his okay moderate-left voting record on to his issue priorities and took a bunch of red flags to the face, definitely starting to feel avakian #FeelTheAvakian
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yeah I was saying there'd probably be a wolf in sheep's clothing (an Obama pretending to be a Bernie, iow an Obama) next time the Dems have a presidential primary, but it really did start immediately. In the old thread I wrote a few posts about David Trone who was some millionaire running against Jamie Raskin, boasting how he wasn't taking any corporate money and saying some of the right things (but that was only possible because he was a millionaire so eh).
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Hello, comrades! I don't know about you, but I'm ready to get hens and eat the rich at a local level.  Al! posted:How are we going to face the biggest threat to progressivism today: identity politics? And how are we going to roll back the so-called "gains" these hijackers have made in the last few years? To be honest, I think money is the biggest threat to progressivism, not identity politics. If anything, identity politics are often a tool used by money and its agents to divert discourse. I was tempted to write up a big effortpost about ways we can use identity politics in our favor, but I'm worried that might be outside the scope of this thread... Are we talking only about individual candidates itt, or also general strategy?
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Apr 29, 2016 04:12
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Bear-Finch party gonna straight up eat America's hen and decapitate the loving bull.
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Apr 29, 2016 04:17
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Classic Comrade posted:
maybe clay pell will come back
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Vox Nihili posted:My bog standard democratic congressman is facing a primary challenge from a hyper-corporate candidate dressing himself in the trappings of a movement candidate. I'll post more about it ITT later assuming that's the sort of thing that belongs here (no real progressive candidates involved but still a Dem primary race). so your congressman is mike honda
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Apr 29, 2016 04:21
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etalian posted:No John Fetterman? John Fetterman is one of the best senate candidates I've seen so far. He needs to be in the OP for future reference or something. Fakeedit: I forgot they already voted and he lost. RIP.
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Mr. Horrible posted:To be honest, I think money is the biggest threat to progressivism, not identity politics. If anything, identity politics are often a tool used by money and its agents to divert discourse.  In this thread maybe it won't get lost in the shuffle immediately. I'm curious what you have to say myself. I feel like race/gender/sexuality causes are good and there's still struggle left there, but I also feel like, based on the way the corporate world went hard at North Carolina over that bill, that corporations are gonna be happy to allow progress on that front. Meanwhile, I fear we have a long future of money using identity as a wedge against class, like we've seen a lot of this election season.
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Apr 29, 2016 04:29
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mods rename this thread Gallery of Failure
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Mr. Horrible posted:I was tempted to write up a big effortpost about ways we can use identity politics in our favor, but I'm worried that might be outside the scope of this thread... Are we talking only about individual candidates itt, or also general strategy? hell yea make that effort post!!!!!! you make good ones imv
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Apr 29, 2016 04:34
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Concerned Citizen posted:mods rename this thread Gallery of Failure  / 
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Concerned Citizen posted:so your congressman is mike honda no doxxing itt
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Concerned Citizen posted:dumb and bad Sorry for your lots
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Concerned Citizen posted:mods rename this thread Gallery of Failure none of this bullshit either pls the dem primary thread exists for a reason (for that kind of bullshit)
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Hajj Podge posted:John Fetterman is one of the best senate candidates I've seen so far. He needs to be in the OP for future reference or something. yeah pennsylvania just sucked in general on 4/26 lmao at least maryland pulled through with raskin. not [donna] edwards tho :/
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Hajj Podge posted:John Fetterman is one of the best senate candidates I've seen so far. He needs to be in the OP for future reference or something. Yeah, he was a long shot unfortunately but I'm glad I got to vote for him.  Hopefully he runs for the next available seat and we can build up enough of a campaign framework to get him nominated!So, while primarying from the left is great, I'm curious: has anyone had any success with building a movement for local changes? I'm thinking sewer socialism in the form of grassroots single-issue movements and ballot initiatives, like funding a homeless shelter or setting up a needle exchange. I have a vague idea of how campaigns work, but I wonder if that sort of push requires different tactics.
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Re Concerned Citizen's posts: Yikes But also: Mr. Horrible posted:Hello, comrades! I don't know about you, but I'm ready to get hens and eat the rich at a local level. This thread seems to be for general strategy as well as finer points so...Effortpost please!
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Thank you for the new thread Classic Comrade. Even if we can't hail Satan as much I look forward to this being a good thread.
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My congressman is a Kennedy and isn't about to be primaried. He's supporting Clinton as a superdelegate which is lovely, but I suppose I could have it worse. I don't think the Republicans are even running a candidate against him this year. I'm curious about town elections but I can't find any goddamn info anywhere. It's a town of about 45,000 so running for anything wouldn't be as easy as just putting one's name on the ballot. In lieu of that, I think I'll be looking for any active progressive groups in my area and seeing if that takes me anywhere.
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Quiet Feet posted:My congressman is a Kennedy and isn't about to be primaried. He's supporting Clinton as a superdelegate which is lovely, but I suppose I could have it worse. I don't think the Republicans are even running a candidate against him this year. You're gonna want to start going to locals. I'm starting off small myself. Going to locals for the LD. They're looking for someone to run for state senate in two years - or so they said at the caucus - so now seems to be as good a time to start as any.
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NumberLast posted:This thread seems to be for general strategy as well as finer points so...Effortpost please! hell yeah it is. it's pretty catch-all. ideas/strategy are cool to talk about!!!
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Classic Comrade posted:hell yeah it is. it's pretty catch-all. I mean, it's a peanut gallery. Which means it's a place for progressives to talk about politics. But it's in YCS, so best do so in the context of the current elections!
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Mr. Horrible posted:Yeah, he was a long shot unfortunately but I'm glad I got to vote for him. i was kind of surprised with how many bernie people voted for sestak instead, considering. like... if ur already supporting a long shot, why balk at supporting another long shot?
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NumberLast posted:I mean, it's a peanut gallery. i gotchoo. current elections can be the general framework of the thread the speculative/strategy stuff is xtra. tho it is a little harder for me to talk about current elections cause there are none in RI right now really!!! so its a little less concrete for me than some other ppl, in different states! i just have future plans....
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Classic Comrade posted:i was kind of surprised with how many bernie people voted for sestak instead, considering. Some people just legitimately don't like Fetterman.
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Classic Comrade posted:i gotchoo.  We're gonna take congress. 
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Classic Comrade posted:i was kind of surprised with how many bernie people voted for sestak instead, considering. I guess the Sanders campaign was backing Sestak? All I know about him was that supposedly he had a tendency to tell the DNC to gently caress off and let him do things his own way.
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Quiet Feet posted:I guess the Sanders campaign was backing Sestak? All I know about him was that supposedly he had a tendency to tell the DNC to gently caress off and let him do things his own way. If that's the case, Fetterman's numbers say one of two things: 1) Fetterman has a lot of draw 2) Sanders endorsements aren't terribly strong Honestly I lean towards the latter (though both are probably true).
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NumberLast posted:If that's the case, Fetterman's numbers say one of two things: i don't think he ever like super-openly endorsed sestak tho like he never asked ppl to give him  or anything
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Classic Comrade posted:i don't think he ever like super-openly endorsed sestak tho hoagie, torpedo, or sammich? 
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Classic Comrade posted:i don't think he ever like super-openly endorsed sestak tho Did he not? I seriously don't know!
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NumberLast posted:Did he not? nope. the only three that got an e-mail so far were zephyr, lucy, and pramila.
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Classic Comrade posted:nope. the only three that got an e-mail so far were zephyr, lucy, and pramila. zephyr? more like hindenburg. 
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My Imaginary GF posted:MyIGF Which office are you running for here?
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yum $19 at the waldorf-astoria progressive
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Uncle Wemus posted:Which office are you running for here?  the one that makes Minnesota great again, eh?
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