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FreakerByTheSpeaker posted:Oh hey, the band got back together! It's easy, look up "environmental working group(or just ewg)+suncscreen". The specific sunscreen I would recommend is somewhat pricey, but it's also got a good balance of a minimum of toxic elements and good coverage. it's called Jason 30 SPF mineral sunscreen.
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empireofcrime posted:and may be a charter school cheerleader too. it was sad (  ) learning that deray mckesson (bringing this back to local level politics.... he ran for mayor of baltimore) was being monetarily supported by charter school ppl and lobbyists.
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C-SPAN Caller posted:It's not as bad as moneyed right interests but it is a distraction tactic for sure. hemophilia posted:Way too many social issues have related if not causative economic factors, so to be merely socially progressive doesn't compute for me. To me, being socially permissive and/or accepting while also having apathetic or rear end-backwards attitudes about the economy already has a label, it's called 'libertarianism'.
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Classic Comrade posted:it was sad ( Once I found out about his weird shilling of commercial products on his Twitter and the other poo poo like his being gung ho for charter schools, I pretty much wrote off DeRay as untrustworthy.
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I'm posting in this thread 1) to get a bookmark and 2) to update on what's been going on in my neck of the woods. Tennessee Dems will be holding their Jackson Day dinner on the weekend of May the 7th, and I have a ticket to attend. I'm going with at least the county chair here in Claiborne, so it'll be a good chance to network and start making inroads. I've been told the dems will be running for about 60 different offices in the state, hopefully I can meet a few and feel out how big of a progressive vein is running through the state party at the moment. At the very least, it's an opportunity for me to learn how everything works (or doesn't work) in this part of Tennessee, anyway.
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hemophilia posted:I used to whine about identity politics a lot and honestly what has given me pause is how Bernie Sanders has handled the issue. okay but in 8 years when ta-nehisi coates is the literal only black person to have personally benefited from a clinton presidency can we at least agree to revisit this issue
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YOU A loving HAT posted:Ah, back in the biz i mean i'm not the boss im just the OP but liiiiiiiiiiiike.... hail satan.
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YOU A loving HAT posted:Ah, back in the biz Please don't.
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hemophilia posted:Please don't. hemophilia you should get one of those word blocker/filter thingies, and make it so 'satan' is changed to like... 'satin' or something 
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Satan is my loving homie and way more of a progressive than p much the whole DNC
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Classic Comrade posted:hemophilia you should get one of those word blocker/filter thingies, and make it so 'satan' is changed to like... 'satin' or something That wouldn't help, because I would still know someone was hailing the dark lord satan
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I hail statins because I'm fat and don't want to have a heart attack.
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Classic Comrade posted:yeah it's very sad how centrists (and right-wing ppl, on the opposite end) use identity politics to manipulate people. most 'economic progressives' embrace identity politic issues too, so what do you think would be a good way to counteract the whole "using identity politics to obfuscate" issue? i think it's good if all people and especially prominent voices on the social justice scene remind their peers and allies that there's more than one struggle, that it's all connected, there's a kinship between all oppressed people, that in the not distant past you could be dismissed from certain jobs for being gay, and as progress is made in any of these arenas, not to leave anyone behind. Which, to be fair, the majority of people in the social justice movement are aware of pretty much, but there do need to be continual reminders, because you know the corporate media is going to give platforms and voices to those who don't threaten them, and there are a lot of less informed people that might succumb to marcotte-ism. I don't think it's wrong to call out people who aren't being allies of the working and lower classes Fast Luck has issued a correction as of 15:28 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Like it would be very good if someone with the stature of like Deray for example called out Hillary Clinton when she said "We could break up the banks, but would that end racism" telling her not to use black people's struggles as a defense of big banks... instead somehow Hillary won points for understanding what it means to be intersectional while implicitly sticking up for big banks. 
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The weird thing is it doesn't take very much to draw a line from banking hegemony to certain kinds of discrimination, like you know securing mortgages, or the housing crisis from you know 8 years ago having lots of minorities and non-minority but none the less low income families caught in the loving crossfire. It's really weird.
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gently caress you Reuters. https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/726056978267648001
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empireofcrime posted:gently caress you Reuters. Only good comment on there is from the person with a Gravity Falls profile pic. Way to go, buddy. 
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NumberLast posted:Only good comment on there is from the person with a Gravity Falls profile pic. Way to go, buddy. I don't appreciate all the lovely insinuations that goes into an article like that. A combination of people's disdain for Clinton and some degree of horseshoe theory nonsense(Trump and Sanders are practically the same person).
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hemophilia posted:The weird thing is it doesn't take very much to draw a line from banking hegemony to certain kinds of discrimination, like you know securing mortgages, or the housing crisis from you know 8 years ago having lots of minorities and non-minority but none the less low income families caught in the loving crossfire. It's really weird. Banking hegemony leads to unscrupulous practices, which predate the habitually marginalized which (surprise!) tend to be racial minorities. Two or three degrees of separation, depending on how you count it. But the more important point is you shouldn't have to bring it 'back to racism.' Yes, institutional racism is a problem but using it as obfuscation to defend a practice that hurts a different group (and in this case one that tends to encompass the group used as obfuscation) isn't just wrong, it's pretty dumb.
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empireofcrime posted:I don't appreciate all the lovely insinuations that goes into an article like that. A combination of people's disdain for Clinton and some degree of horseshoe theory nonsense(Trump and Sanders are practically the same person). I have a friend that thinks people hate Trump because the media tells him to, and that the media hates him because they'll lose money if he wins (or something). I tell him about Trump's racist and violent rhetoric and all I get is "I don't believe that happened," which is pretty  . But he also voted for Bernie.Point is, there is crossover among people that are just generally anti-establishment while being fairly apolitical, like my friend there.
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NumberLast posted:Banking hegemony leads to unscrupulous practices, which predate the habitually marginalized which (surprise!) tend to be racial minorities. When this happened, nobody should have been lauding her because you can swat that horse-poo poo down with a soundbyte's worth of words. That's my main point. It's not complicated or convoluted, it's so offensive I can only assume people were blindsided by the audacity of it.
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NumberLast posted:I have a friend that thinks people hate Trump because the media tells him to, and that the media hates him because they'll lose money if he wins (or something). I tell him about Trump's racist and violent rhetoric and all I get is "I don't believe that happened," which is pretty Sure, but like with the Bernie Bro thing it's painting all Sanders supporters with the same brush.
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hemophilia posted:When this happened, nobody should have been lauding her because you can swat that horse-poo poo down with a soundbyte's worth of words. That's my main point. It's not complicated or convoluted, it's so offensive I can only assume people were blindsided by the audacity of it. I just heard it, thought "That's stupid," and moved on with my day. I came back to people celebrating the comment and just 'd my way to bed.
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empireofcrime posted:Sure, but like with the Bernie Bro thing it's painting all Sanders supporters with the same brush. Oh, I know. It over-generalizes. What I found weirdest about the article is that it seems to be approaching the issue with the assumption that Bernie supporters will support Trump.
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NumberLast posted:Oh, I know. It over-generalizes. What I found weirdest about the article is that it seems to be approaching the issue with the assumption that Bernie supporters will support Trump. speaking of linking the two... https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/726058648649261056
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Concerned Citizen posted:patty judge is probably going to win now, actually. imo hogg is better than judge and i will vote for him instead, but dscc is all up judge's butt. NumberLast posted:Tom Fiegen did a reddit AMA where he talked about how we should annex Mexico. Like, in all seriousness. hahaha thanks for the info guys, I haven't been following Fiegen that closely for very long so I'm sorry to hear he is such a shithead Modus Pwnens posted:Thanks for this. I'd tossed him 5 bucks earlier, now I know better. Judge is awful and Krause is a nonstarter, so I guess that leaves Hogg. as soon as I saw him posting stuff like that on his facebook I knew for sure his political career was going nowhere
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empireofcrime posted:gently caress you Reuters. answer to headline: because Trump is a massive piece of poo poo and the vast, vast, VAST majority of Sanders supporters would never even consider voting for him
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Concerned Citizen posted:patty judge is probably going to win now, actually. imo hogg is better than judge and i will vote for him instead, but dscc is all up judge's butt.  @ fiegen
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Breadallelogram posted:Grassley is probably going to win reelection anyway. I'm sorry. I feel the same way about by terrible rep.Dave Reichert!!! 
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A big problem will be the need to weed out the actual crazies that both naturally tend to gravitate to fringe causes and have their crazy-fueled enthusiasm to put themselves out there to run for office and make public appearances and whatnot. Like a 'Bernie Democrat' wanting to annex Mexico makes all the non-insane left wing people look like idiots.
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Goetta posted:A big problem will be the need to weed out the actual crazies that both naturally tend to gravitate to fringe causes and have their crazy-fueled enthusiasm to put themselves out there to run for office and make public appearances and whatnot. Yeeup. Which is what kind of took me aback in a bad way when I saw Fiegen on that spreadsheet. Not as well-vetted as I had hoped...
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NumberLast posted:Yeeup. maybe we should make a new/edited version of that list? supporting sanders does not equal being a progressive. for example donna edwards endorsed clinton but she seemed like a very cool and good candidate (who unfortunately lost). Breadallelogram posted:
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Classic Comrade posted:maybe we should make a new/edited version of that list? supporting sanders does not equal being a progressive. for example donna edwards endorsed clinton but she seemed like a very cool and good candidate (who unfortunately lost). I'm down to try it!
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YOU A loving HAT posted:Ah, back in the biz Don't see why not, plus bernie too since you know, stuff he does matters for this movement.
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