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Concerned Citizen posted:
I think it's very inspiring that he didn't let his physical disability deter him from seeking office.
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The Vinja Ninja posted:Al Frankens endorsement was less praising and more "I said it, now leave me alone" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeipFdLiTro Pinterest Mom has issued a correction as of 20:17 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Rastor posted:I've been having similar thoughts. Just inject some science fact into the Greens and you might have something. List of red states where the Greens are on the ballot, comprehensive: Arizona Arkansas Louisiana Mississippi South Carolina Texas West Virginia
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progressive movements aren't doomed, i hear there's a p. successful one within the democratic party rn
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Error 404 posted:This is a terrible idea. i'm in favour of not letting that baby buy an assault rifle
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Classic Comrade posted:and it sucks because obviously racism and homophobia ARE bad!! but blatantly leaving class out of your analysis just... is not a complete picture of what's going on! and yet they're the ones that think we're not intersectional. Where's your weird serial killer word cloud then  https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/706649487696130048 https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/706670045410299904
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yo Classic Comrade this thread is technically not about presidential candidates ok 
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Hajj Podge posted:If there will be a new third party after this election, and if Bernie will lead it, I'll be washing my hands of the Democratic Party for good. Bernie Sanders spent 30 years studiously avoiding involving himself with the Vermont Progressive Party, the most successful third party in the US. He's not about to change now.
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Mr. Horrible posted:This man who just joined a party he avoided for decades will never change his tactics, because It's important to recognise that if you want progressive change and organisation, you can't wait for the yelling old man who doesn't play well with others to do it for you. Go out and do it yourself.
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Oh Snapple! posted:Warren waited a long time to endorse and I wouldn't be surprised if she's paying for it now in ways aside from DWS targeting her payday loan stuff. An earlier endorsement from her had the potential to neuter Bernie's campaign quickly and I don't think that's lost on the Clinton camp. Warren was being kept in reserve to ~unite the party~ after the primaries. Hillary's camp won't be mad about that - they won Massachusetts without her help, and Warren is a lot more useful to them as a June endorsement that symbolically gives permission for left-wing Dems to embrace HRC than she would have been in March.
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exploding mummy posted:no, not really. wants to end TPP, raise minimum wage, strengthen environmental regulations, end fossil fuels, etc it's D+1.
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rudatron posted:BoB is correct here, and you're wrong Error, but I want to poke this: The President has "uphold laws" as part of his literal job description, whereas activists get to (and should!) prioritise broad concerns of justice without regard for practicality as a way to shift the discourse.
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rudatron posted:So if some right-wing activist says that Obama secretly, in his heart of hearts, wants cops dead, but has to say some differently in public, your response would be to think 'well I don't like this guy, but I hope he's right'? 
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Jul 11, 2016 04:44
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As a leftist, I endorse that letter.
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Classic Comrade posted:
Parroting ableist smear campaigns to dismiss critics is something that even you've done, CC, so you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the concern that good leftists often wield their opponents' identities and concern about identities against them. Homework Explainer posted:something that's frustrating to me is liberals refuse to acknowledge and the leftists don't mention socialist countries have some of the best levels of representation for women and minority groups in government and highly skilled workforces Isn't that implicit in the premise of the letter? The left is supposed to be (and is, by and large is) better for marginalised people, of all stripes, so that makes the instances where we fall down all the more egregious. We don't get to pat ourselves on the back, point to how many doctors in Cuba are women, and declare the job done.
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It's easy to pretend that any criticism of the left by the left actually means that the critics are neoliberals or insufficiently pure  .
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Classic Comrade posted:
I'm a social democrat 
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NumberLast posted:This is what I don't get. Even if we completely eliminated attacks against, abuse of, erasure of or exploitation of identity, we'd all still be completely hosed. We can talk about both class and identity issues! What I've found is that often, when minority issues are brought up, there's an accusation from some segments of the left that they're distractions or obscuring the real issues. That's not something that was made up by Sady Doyle in order to strangle Bernie Bros, it's a real thing that a lot of people have noticed, that I've noticed in my life, and taken issue with, and it's what the letter is pushing back against. People on my side of the argument are saying class and identity, not class or identity.
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NumberLast posted:That's what people on my side of the argument are saying. A few months back, a group of people in the NDP here put out a post-election post-mortem report. One of their recommendations was that the party make a bigger effort to recruit diverse staff and nurture a more diverse volunteer base. I know some of the people on the panel who issued the report, and they include someone who was an unironic Chavezista. The reaction from some leftists in the Canada thread here was to call the recommendation for diversity a neoliberal plot to distract from the party's move rightward and shelter the leadership from criticism. That's the kind of attitude I'm reacting against, not people who think that class can't be dissociated from other issues.
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Jul 14, 2016 03:24
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NumberLast posted:That's because designing a more diverse leadership doesn't help anyone. It has to happen organically or it's just people that look different making the same decisions. Come on, you don't actually believe that. "Organically", white men dominate the discourse in any activist group, for a ton of structural reasons. Organisations have to make an effort to include the voices of marginalised people or else you just end up with the usual suspects talking over everybody else.
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Homework Explainer posted:it's more that the people involved have been on record as not caring or erasing criticism from women, poc, etc. one of the blm people who took the mic from bernie wrote a few tweets about how she first found out about this letter was reading it published and finding it patronizing by the first paragraph. https://twitter.com/rissaoftheway/status/753344148065837056 https://twitter.com/rissaoftheway/status/753349276390928384 quote:right, and cuba has gotten on board that train wrt afro cubans, homosexuality and even better treatment of women. castro calls it "the revolution within the revolution." mao said the same, though china's been slower to make those changes. criticism and self-criticism and all that. both countries are ahead of the us, in any case. I don't think it's fair to say that China and Cuba are unambiguously better than the US (or the West broadly) on issues of representation or inclusion, but sure. I'm not endorsing the signatories~
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Classic Comrade posted:.....wait did pinterest mom literally say me saying sady doyle has a mental illness is ableism. she DOES have a mental illness. she has said so herself. and that mental illness causes her to be paranoid and accusatory. she said that herself. and i sympathized with that and felt bad for her and wanted her to get help. like i wasn't trying to be an rear end in a top hat lmao I did, yeah. NumberLast posted:I'm not talking about inclusion, I'm talking about leadership. That's nice. I was talking about the NDP making an effort to build a more diverse volunteer base and staff and it being denounced as a neoliberal distraction by leftist critics.
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You're literally citing her mental health in the same breath as you're dismissing her opinions.
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happy bastille day everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3eSNi__4w
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khwarezm posted:My understanding was that a bunch of Democrats in Florida ended up voting for Bush(quite a lot more than voted for Nader), and a whole lot more just didn't vote at all. A bunch of white racists who were registered Democrat for historical reasons but had abandoned the party decades earlier voted for Bush, yes. I don't know if you want to be making the argument that Gore should have done more to appeal to them .
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