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Dreddout posted:I had a doctor who was a creationist, he gave me the whole spiel when I had to get my appendix removed. I took my grandmother to the hospital once, after she tripped and hurt herself. The nurse attending to her told us that she would never have her kids vaccinated because it could cause autism. It felt like I had fallen into the Twilight Zone. Also, we got stuck in the waiting room long enough to have to sit through both Soul Plane and some movie where Q-tip is in prison.
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Heteroy posted:I took my grandmother to the hospital once, after she tripped and hurt herself. The nurse attending to her told us that she would never have her kids vaccinated because it could cause autism. It felt like I had fallen into the Twilight Zone. Tons of nurses are anti-vax, apparently. Hell, a lot of them don't even believe in getting flu shots despite the fact that they're around people with compromised immune systems all day. pretty hosed up imo
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Used to date a girl who believed the "microcosmic" evolution thing. She would say "well, bacteria can evolve but larger organisms can't" to which I asked how small things can all change while the bigger things they comprise remain unchanged. She sort of smiled like I was trying to trick her. It was weird because she wanted to be a physicist and she explained that even though the universe would expand forever, there'd still be life all over. Even though what she said pretty much denies Newtonian physics at its most basic, didn't have the heart to tell her about heat death. I believe she is now living in a doomsday shelter with a bunch of guns and a husband who sincerely believes there will be something akin to a zombie apocalypse. I do not speak to them.
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best friend massage posted:Tons of nurses are anti-vax, apparently. Hell, a lot of them don't even believe in getting flu shots despite the fact that they're around people with compromised immune systems all day. pretty hosed up imo My wife's godmother has been an OR nurse for 35 years and is completely full of poo poo. She believes poison ivy is contagious, but colds are caused by going outside without a sweater. Women should gain no more than five pounds during a pregnancy. I once heard her mention that she uses Tylenol PM to go to sleep. I mentioned to her that she should just take a couple Benadryl since it was the same thing, except it didn't have the extra Tylenol there that didn't help you sleep but did gently caress up you liver. She told me that she was gonna go ahead and keep doing what she was doing, since she was the only medical professional in the room with over three decades of experience.
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May 1, 2016 00:02
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Something like a third of Norway's population immigrated to North America during the 19th century. It was more than a bit, I think. Emigration was a big deal, yes, but saying that as much as a third of the population emigrated is based on a slight misunderstanding... somewhere between 800 and 900 thousand people, yes, but spread over a century (the emigration period is usualliy counted as 1825 to 1925). The population of Norway grew from approximately 1 million to just under 3 million in this timeframe; obviously the total number of Norwegians who were alive at some point during this century was somewhat larger. (Also, incidentally, about 25% of the people who emigrated ended up moving back. Including one set of my great-great-grandparents, who had emigrated separately, met in the Norwegian ghetto in Chicago, married and started raising a family, and eventually got homesick and went back -- so one of my great-grandfathers was actually a US citizen by birth.) Actually I was just bored enough to dig up the official statistics and summed up the total number of live births in Norway from 1825 to 1925 and got 5348778; add to this 1035345 who were already alive in 1825, and the migration is more like 14% at most. Or something like 10% when you subtract the ones who came back.
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Booblord Zagats posted:So really, ragging on the Catholic Church for one of its more intelligent stances because it's not the exact same as Richard Dawkins is kinda petty. I'm not speaking to the rest of that. I'm just saying, their stance on evolution is not scientific in the least. Dawkins didn't decide what evolution is, the Scientific Method did that. Adding unnecessary and untestable variables to theories that don't need them is just bad science, whatever the reason. This isn't about not seeing evolution "exactly the same" as anyone, this is about making a concrete claim ("The Hebrew God is the direct cause of evolution") that has absolutely no evidence in its favor. Not even the actual Theory of Evolution makes any claims about what kicked off the whole process. Dressing it up in "faith" doesn't make it any less absurd. Keep Autism Wired posted:this is about as sophisticated as they get, but it takes a decent education in genetics to explain why this is a false distinction A middle school education in genetics is enough. It is the same as "I believe in Adaptation, not Evolution". They are the same damned thing, just one is observed over more time than the other. Keep Autism Wired posted:sounds like quite an interesting character can't believe you turned down a steak dinner and a trip to a creation museum. also jackalopes and chupacabras are real He probably would have had to have the dinner with him. Earwicker posted:you dont have to actually believe in evolution in order to figure out where oil or coal or natural gas is. the processes of finding natural resources are still the same whether you believe in the science of where everything came from or not. just like you can still repair a car even if you believe gasoline is made from unicorn blood or whatever. Yeah, but so much of the science of those processes depends on the Earth being old as gently caress. People like her literally just have to shove doubt to the backs of their minds, watch the science be proven right again and again, then pretend they never saw that happen. You analogy here would be more apt if you had to refine gasoline from crude oil while still believing it was actually unicorn blood. The Bible fucked around with this message at 04:37 on May 1, 2016 |
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best friend massage posted:Tons of nurses are anti-vax, apparently. Hell, a lot of them don't even believe in getting flu shots despite the fact that they're around people with compromised immune systems all day. pretty hosed up imo Those nurses are normally the ones stuck working in old folks homes. The ones that force vaccines on employees and have to go to court every few years to enforce their contracts
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yeah he was called tim and he was doing a degree in physics. i think he said some bullshit about the flood being real because it's in every culture in the world so I pointed out that doesn't prove Christianity right so I spent the rest of the argument pretending to be a Zoroastrian. have to wonder tho if a Muslim is telling you you're being an illogical piece of poo poo you should shut the gently caress up
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dude i met at uni thinks that every terrorist attack is a false flag, prince was assassinated and the illuminati exists, he probably doesn't believe in evolution
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The Dregs posted:My wife's godmother has been an OR nurse for 35 years and is completely full of poo poo. She believes poison ivy is contagious, but colds are caused by going outside without a sweater. Women should gain no more than five pounds during a pregnancy. I once heard her mention that she uses Tylenol PM to go to sleep. I mentioned to her that she should just take a couple Benadryl since it was the same thing, except it didn't have the extra Tylenol there that didn't help you sleep but did gently caress up you liver. She told me that she was gonna go ahead and keep doing what she was doing, since she was the only medical professional in the room with over three decades of experience. i work in a medical field and nurses are by and far the worst people i've dealt with. every single one thinks theyre a genius but get this: they're all morons
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Unfortunately yes I have OP, and they unironically used same the argument as that clip from It's Always Sunny that was posted on page 1. I am not friends with them anymore because it was high school and they were just generally annoying, but if it weren't for that, the evolution thing definitely would've done it.
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RedMage129 posted:Does it really matter whether people believe in evolution? I mean, intelligent design is stupid as gently caress, but it has no real world implications if people believe it. It's not like Climate Change where people's opinions can actually impact the world in some way through policy and societal habits. Guess how most intelligent designers feel about climate change.
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I met a guy in 10th grade biology, he was a semi-regular lab partner. He was recently converted/saved to Christianity and he 100% did not believe in evolution. At that time he was just an acquaintance and someone I liked doing lab work with because he put out effort and didn't dump all the work on me and the other nerd we worked with. But he became my friend later when it turned out he was in my social circle through other people. I know a few more too. It's dumb but if you haven't met them I can only assume you're sheltered as gently caress or have never met a bible thumper which seems unlikely if you're american.
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May 1, 2016 16:12
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Why are americans afraid of vaccines holy poo poo
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May 1, 2016 16:13
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Zzulu posted:Why are americans afraid of vaccines holy poo poo Once upon a time, this one guy released a study that said so. It was science, so it was true. Then a gajillion other scientists said the study was full of poo poo, but their opinions were boring and non-sensational so no one listened.
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Zzulu posted:Why are americans afraid of vaccines holy poo poo I am like 70% certain you are Lars von Trier.
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I've never had a flu shot and have never gotten the flu and get sick like once a year if that 
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phasmid posted:I am like 70% certain you are Lars von Trier. You might be 70% correct
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May 1, 2016 19:42
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It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!
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It's Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Guess how most intelligent designers feel about climate change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmKcM87enuI
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Tfw you realize the entire part of the world that's not Europe is all hellish theocratic dystopias
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Yeah but at least we don't have to live in Europe.
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I grew up in Montana. so I met many such people. I found out yesterday one of them now works for JPL 
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genesplicer posted:Pretty much all of my extended family most of them work for churches in the Bible Belt and such. What state do you teach in? I currently teach science in a godless communist country and don't have to worry about this, but I'm considering going back to America and this is a minor but real concern of mine.
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I once met a doctor who unironically tried to convince me that the earth is 6000 years old and god made us all, while calling a disease god's curse. He even was quite young, maybe around 30 or so.
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Let us English posted:I found out yesterday one of them now works for JPL I'm an astronomer and you'd probably be surprised how many are Christian/creationist. Not the Young Earth kind, but the "evolution/whatever is real and God designed it to work this way" kind. I'm not referring to hack/crackpot scientists who got their PhD in some third world country, but full tenured professors at respectable universities. It never seemed odd to me but some people are just flabbergasted that people widely considered to be intelligent can also be religious.
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Murphy Brownback posted:I'm an astronomer and you'd probably be surprised how many are Christian/creationist. Not the Young Earth kind, but the "evolution/whatever is real and God designed it to work this way" kind. I'm not referring to hack/crackpot scientists who got their PhD in some third world country, but full tenured professors at respectable universities. It never seemed odd to me but some people are just flabbergasted that people widely considered to be intelligent can also be religious. I'm never surprised to meet a religious scientist but young earth scientists make my head spin.
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Nobnob posted:I once met a doctor who unironically tried to convince me that the earth is 6000 years old and god made us all, while calling a disease god's curse. I hope someone says that to me someday so I can ask them what did I do to make god curse me with type 1 diabetes at age 10.
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Hello, I'm a person who's entire livelihood relies on objective observation of the world and I believe an invisible being made me
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Holyshoot posted:I hope someone says that to me someday so I can ask them what did I do to make god curse me with type 1 diabetes at age 10. Did you eat your vegetables when your parents told you to? It a commandment to honor your mom and dad.
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RedMage129 posted:Does it really matter whether people believe in evolution? I mean, intelligent design is stupid as gently caress, but it has no real world implications if people believe it. It's not like Climate Change where people's opinions can actually impact the world in some way through policy and societal habits. It does matter for the prediction and control of stuff like influenza. There's plenty of real world impact from it. However you won't see it talked about often and good luck getting a gop or  voter to understand/listen to it.
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Azuth0667 posted:It does matter for the prediction and control of stuff like influenza. There's plenty of real world impact from it. However you won't see it talked about often and good luck getting a gop or Yeah but viruses just do microevolution. That's OK to believe in.
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Holyshoot posted:I hope someone says that to me someday so I can ask them what did I do to make god curse me with type 1 diabetes at age 10. Mysterious ways and if you press the issue it's going to get bitter.
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Holyshoot posted:I hope someone says that to me someday so I can ask them what did I do to make god curse me with type 1 diabetes at age 10. I checked with my Calvinist doctor and he says it's predestination. You were bound for hell even before you were born
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Phlegmish posted:Tfw you realize the entire part of the world that's not Europe is all hellish theocratic dystopias Send help, I see an eye of Providence directly across the street from me!
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Phlegmish posted:I checked with my Calvinist doctor and he says it's predestination. You were bound for hell even before you were born RIP me. Good thing I accepted Jesus so I now get to go to heaven!
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If you're predestined for hell Jesus isn't going to save you, sorry. Calvinist God is a real dick.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:If you're predestined for hell Jesus isn't going to save you, sorry. So he's like the jehova witness god but more people can get into heaven instead of just 144,000?
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