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OwlFancier posted:True but sometimes someone is annoying and so you want them not to be. Why do some people need to otherise those they find annoying?
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Pissflaps posted:It would help if he resigned. How, exactly? I can't see any way for Corbyn to resign that would actually benefit Labour.
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May 1, 2016 14:51
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Pissflaps posted:Why do some people need to otherise those they find annoying? It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was Us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things. This is part of reason why you should respect Terry Pratchetts writing ability.
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a glitch posted:How, exactly? I can't see any way for Corbyn to resign that would actually benefit Labour. It's not exactly working out with him in charge.
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The Labour party has always reflected current attitudes and it's members have a less than perfect record when it comes to racism. Just look at the 50's with coloured workers being explicitly banned from working at any closed shop that the TGWU ran.
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May 1, 2016 14:53
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Pissflaps posted:It's not exactly working out with him in charge. I do wonder, what with his recent popularity surge over Hillsborough, what shape Labour would be in currently if they had picked Andy Burnham.
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May 1, 2016 15:04
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I have a feeling we wouldn't be discussing how much the Labour Party hates Jewish people if he were.
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May 1, 2016 15:06
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Mega Comrade posted:I do wonder, what with his recent popularity surge over Hillsborough, what shape Labour would be in currently if they had picked Andy Burnham. Almost certainly better. The question is more what would their policies be, and what sort of line would they have taken over recent Tory actions?
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May 1, 2016 15:16
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Pissflaps posted:I have a feeling we wouldn't be discussing how much the Labour Party hates Jewish people if he were. We probably would
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May 1, 2016 15:17
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This whole antisemitism thing is a bad joke with the longest setup. The Graun opinion section has been pushing this agenda for months prior just to set the stage. Not that I think the smug backpfeifengesichte at the Graun have made a concerted effort to set this all up, more I just think it's been the only angle of attack they could pursue against the hated Jihadi Jez that's actually gained real traction and even then only through the desperate swinging of dead cats by racist Australian campaign managers. If Ken hadn't waded in and put his foot in it the whole thing would probably have blown over by now. Just to get an idea of the ridiculous bias at work, compare and contrast the volume of Grauniad pieces over the past few months focusing on labour's supposed anti-semitism with those calling out Goldsmith's dog-whistle tactics.
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May 1, 2016 15:24
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Pissflaps posted:I wouldn't say deep rooted, the opposite in fact: it seems to be coming from the top down. So you think the Labour leadership and Jeremy Corbyn are anti-Semites?
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May 1, 2016 15:24
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Pissflaps posted:Why do some people need to otherise those they find annoying? Because then it justifies disliking them and stops you having to also care about them because you share a common interest despite how annoying they are.
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May 1, 2016 15:25
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With Burnham or Cooper we'd still be recovering from the embrassment of them supporting the welfare bill that Osborne had to U-turn on. Its pretty unlikely we'd be having the antisemitism row because what its actually about is Corbyn not supporting Israel like he's supposed to. Then people would get excited by around 2019 and we'd have young girls starting a Fandy Burnham Fanclub as he really got into his stride as the centrist alternative to the tories. Then after all the polls suggested a Labour victory he'd lose because tories continue to vote tory and left wingers continue to not vote for centrist Labour. 2021 Labour responds by lurching further right.
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May 1, 2016 15:26
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Of the current party leaders Corbyn is not the one that people should want out. What is going on.
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Thanks for all the answers. I'd more or less accepted it was another bout of anti-Corbyn concern-trolling, but it's still disconcerting to see the useful Blairite idiots turn around and say they always knew they were surrounded by antisemites.Pissflaps posted:I wouldn't say deep rooted, the opposite in fact: it seems to be coming from the top down. From who? Even if you believe Ken is genuinely antisemitic, he's out, and nobody's stepping up to defend what he said.
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Gato posted:From who? Even if you believe Ken is genuinely antisemitic, he's out, and nobody's stepping up to defend what he said. Did you miss the big rally Corbyn had in Golders Green where he marched through with ten thousand blackshirts calling for the death of all the Jews?
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May 1, 2016 15:51
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Pissflaps posted:I have a feeling we wouldn't be discussing how much the Labour Party hates Jewish people if he were. Why do you feel this? Does Burnham have the precognitive abiliities to preemptively murder Ken in his sleep?
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I really wish people would stop treating Pissflaps as if he was arguing in good faith.
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May 1, 2016 16:01
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I really wish he wasn't allowed to deform these threads any more, but people will keep biting. I wouldn't mind if he actually had opinions.
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May 1, 2016 16:04
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Mister Adequate posted:Did you miss the big rally Corbyn had in Golders Green where he marched through with ten thousand blackshirts calling for the death of all the Jews? I wondered what that noise was this morning.
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May 1, 2016 16:06
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feedmegin posted:Why do you feel this? Does Burnham have the precognitive abiliities to preemptively murder Ken in his sleep? The Cyberdyne Systems T600 is more than a match for Red Ken.
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May 1, 2016 16:07
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I almost missed it as I was dazzled by Goldsmith putting Sadiq Khan's name next to a picture of an exploded bus, but I love the line in that Mail article about Khan being "aggressive socialism entering Britain through the back door". I can't decide what I like more, the sledgehammer-subtle implication of known brown man Sadiq Khan having snuck socialism into Britain, or that a high-profile democratic election is somehow "the back door".
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Filboid Studge posted:I really wish he wasn't allowed to deform these threads any more, but people will keep biting. I wouldn't mind if he actually had opinions. Holding opinions would be wrong at a time when polling is ongoing.
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Filboid Studge posted:I really wish he wasn't allowed to deform these threads any more, but people will keep biting. I wouldn't mind if he actually had opinions. Yeah he leapfrogged MIGF some time ago as worst poster in D&D which is really saying something. He's the only poster in the whole forum I'd consider ignoring but theres no point since this thread would just be 50% unreadable and 50% pissflaps quotes.
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:I almost missed it as I was dazzled by Goldsmith putting Sadiq Khan's name next to a picture of an exploded bus, but I love the line in that Mail article about Khan being "aggressive socialism entering Britain through the back door". I think most Tory politicians would consider an election to be a back door in politics. It allows the chance for the riff-raff to sneak in when everyone's busy watching Dave do his pig gag.
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May 1, 2016 16:16
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I am celebrating International Workers' Day by going down the pub
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May 1, 2016 16:19
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Paxman posted:I am celebrating International Workers' Day by going down the pub Where do you think you are, some bloody communist country? In Britain we celebrate the Early May Bank Holiday. (we could use a :toff:)
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May 1, 2016 16:23
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Oberleutnant posted:does the conservative party have a problem with islamophobia? conservative party in crisis! - no paper or media outlets today
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May 1, 2016 16:35
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:conservative party in crisis! - no paper or media outlets today
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Steve2911 posted:Of the current party leaders Corbyn is not the one that people should want out. Pissflaps really has a thing with Corbyn, which is why: Pissflaps posted:I have a feeling we wouldn't be discussing how much the Labour Party hates Jewish people if he were. *wink to camera*
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0788szw/sunday-politics-london-01052016 Mayor bit starts at 39:20 if anyone hasn't seen it yet
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:Where do you think you are, some bloody communist country? In Britain we celebrate the Early May Bank Holiday. Zeppelin Insanity posted:(we could use a :toff:) 
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I feel this is all prologue to the buddy cop movie Pissflaps and Corbyn are inevitably going to star in.
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"Yer a loose cannon 'flaps, one more mistake and yer' off the force, I'm assigning you detective Corbyn as yer' new partner." "Actually I'm a constable so I shouldn't be working with a detective."
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May 1, 2016 17:04
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That's awfully antisemitic of you, commissioner.
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Is pissflaps Mel Gibson in this scenario, because
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imagine finding out that your husband spent hours a day writing boring contrarian posts on a dying internet forum
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There's no time Corbyn! Turn on the siren and step on it! Oh dear, are the Tories at it again? Worse! It's Sunday and B&Q shuts in 5 minutes!
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"Let's go pissflaps - I've got a lead" 'No, any other cop would have a better lead'
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baka kaba posted:"Let's go pissflaps - I've got a lead" "This is our primary suspect." "That guy shouldn't be our primary suspect." "Who, then?" "Anyone else."
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