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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/2016-elections-al-franken-vice-president-213756 How much you wanna bet? The last line of this is terribly dumb because it's about the writer wanting to be entertained but in any case it's sorta clear that picking candidates based on regionalism is sort of fading and there are a lot of plusses to Franken.
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Nah, it's gon' be Castro. Fidel, not Julian.
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May 1, 2016 16:56
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Thump! posted:Nah, it's gon' be Castro. Nah it's going to be the bad Castro.
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May 1, 2016 16:57
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It's going to be Julian Castro sponsored by Castrol. All cabinet members will wear sponsership badges like in Nascar. The Minister of Agriculture brought to you by Nabisco. Secretary of State sponsered by Bud Lite: Secretary of Up for Anything.
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global tetrahedron posted:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/2016-elections-al-franken-vice-president-213756 Yeah, I loving know. This is what I've been saying Franken gets on the ticket, my loving god, am I in a good position.
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May 1, 2016 17:16
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Quiet Feet posted:It's going to be Julian Castro sponsored by Castrol. why the gently caress you need a latino on the ticket? Trump is as good as a Castro.
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May 1, 2016 17:17
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Franken would be a good pick because he can go toe to toe a lot better vs Trump than Hillary can while she sits back and does the whole calm and responsible shtick. I think it would be a good choice.
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May 1, 2016 17:20
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franken is a lame rear end but somehow whoever hillary picks will embody some the same spirit of distilled boring evil as hillary, twice as lame.
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May 1, 2016 17:25
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Hillary will pick someone so toxic to the Republicans that they wouldn't dare impeach her for fear of that person becoming president Basically look forward to the Clinton/Trump unity ticket
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May 1, 2016 17:47
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I'd be surprised a bit; on the up-shot Franken would be replaced by gubernatorial appointment (currently Mark Dayton, a Democrat) and if I'm reading the rules for MN correctly that appointment would serve until 2020 just like Franken would have. He has a fairly pro-labor record and could help solidify working class / middle class support for the ticket in the way Biden helped Obama. Also we'd probably see a repeat of the Biden/Ryan debate with him tearing whoever Trump picks to shreds with incredulity and ridicule.  
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May 1, 2016 18:05
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This is Clinton we're talking about so I would assume it's gonna be a died-in-the-wool New Democrat who has some kind of connection to one of the Democrats' more important voting blocs.
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May 1, 2016 18:12
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Hillary will pick Kshama Sawant as her running mate to show the world what a real Socialist is.
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Helsing posted:This is Clinton we're talking about so I would assume it's gonna be a died-in-the-wool New Democrat who has some kind of connection to one of the Democrats' more important voting blocs. Jewish Americans who got overexcited for Sanders? Al! I like Al, you like Al, everybody laughs at Al!
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May 1, 2016 18:20
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Mo_Steel posted:I'd be surprised a bit; on the up-shot Franken would be replaced by gubernatorial appointment (currently Mark Dayton, a Democrat) and if I'm reading the rules for MN correctly that appointment would serve until 2020 just like Franken would have. He has a fairly pro-labor record and could help solidify working class / middle class support for the ticket in the way Biden helped Obama. Pick Al!, put Klobuchar on SCOTUS, Dayton appoints whom he hates the most plus Nolan. I like Al! and so can you!!!!
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May 1, 2016 18:22
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Also gets me one step closer to my dream ticket next election: Al Franken and Jill Stein. Franken Stein 2024 
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May 1, 2016 18:30
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Franken would get schooled hard in a debate.
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Nonsense posted:Franken would get schooled hard in a debate. By what metric would you think Franken lacks wit?
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May 1, 2016 18:35
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Because he's not actually funny (nor SNL), and Clinton is going to pick Castro, because she wants to make Latinos a permanent Democratic demo rather than the split we almost faced with Republicans under GWB.
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May 1, 2016 18:39
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Although since the Bush family is disgraced and considered a band of illegal aliens on Jeb's side, that outreach is dead lol
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Nonsense posted:Because he's not actually funny, and Clinton is going to pick Castro, because she wants to make Latinos a permanent Democratic demo rather than the split we almost faced with Republicans under GWB. You a loving idiot. You don't campaign beyond your current cycle, especially not when you loving running for the top slot you loving idiot. Who the gently caress gives a poo poo how hispanics vote in 2024, if they already locked in to vote for you in 2016? Christ you gently caress'n fuckwits don't think like politicians. Think like a politician more, you loving idiot. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 1, 2016 18:41
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Lol at that probation.
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Mo_Steel posted:Also gets me one step closer to my dream ticket next election: Al Franken and Jill Stein. Boo. Boooooooo
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Mo_Steel posted:Also gets me one step closer to my dream ticket next election: Al Franken and Jill Stein. 
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Thump! posted:Nah, it's gon' be Castro. i thought you bernouts loved communists 
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i used to think al franken was good, then he voted for some really conservative legislation (cant remember what) so now i think he is not.
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i oppose someone for a single vague reason that i cannot remember the details of
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Welcome to the Democratic Party.
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May 2, 2016 10:05
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Hillary Clinton should name Trump as her VP. Really shake things up.
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Relin posted:i used to think al franken was good, then he voted for some really conservative legislation (cant remember what) so now i think he is not. Seriously, y'all have the shortest memories. Weakness on/initial support for PIPA made him forever an enemy of the people. Evidently that lasted like 3 years until we got bored and moved on to the new outrage. Ork of Fiction posted:Hillary Clinton should name Trump as her VP. Really shake things up. I'll go to my grave believing that'd gain her more EV than running with Booker or Castro. What's the left going to do, stay home and let Cruz choose the supreme court nominees?
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It's going to be Jim Webb to draw insane patriots away from Trump, and we're going to see a man shanked on live TV during the debate.
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Ork of Fiction posted:Hillary Clinton should name Trump as her VP. Really shake things up. Ivanka? #ImWithHer
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Nonsense posted:Because he's not actually funny (nor SNL), and Clinton is going to pick Castro, because she wants to make Latinos a permanent Democratic demo rather than the split we almost faced with Republicans under GWB. I don't think it would necessarily work out that way. Hispanics are a much more diffuse voting block than black voters, and I don't think picking a Latino VP in itself is enough to create a permanent voting block.
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there's no way a VP pick would turn hispanics (or any group) into a permanent (even if we take that to mean 'the next 10-20 years') voting bloc. plenty of hispanics, nowhere near a majority but enough to avoid monolithic D status, are comfortable with their place in american society and are straight R voters. i bet trump will get a higher percentage of self-identified hispanic than black supporters in the exit polls
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:I don't think it would necessarily work out that way. Hispanics are a much more diffuse voting block than black voters, and I don't think picking a Latino VP in itself is enough to create a permanent voting block. This is spot on. Anyone who thinks OMG Castro = Latinos become democrats forever is engaging in the same sloppy identity poitics thinking that Republicans engage in (which leads to poo poo like Rubio thinking he can win latinos). If Hillary picks Castro, and that's something of a big if because he has quite a few negatives, then it'll be for reasons beyond young/latino.
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General rule is that veeps don't really help. They either hurt you or have no effect. Which is why it often goes badly when a ticket tries to pick a "wowza" veep.
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oystertoadfish posted:there's no way a VP pick would turn hispanics (or any group) into a permanent (even if we take that to mean 'the next 10-20 years') voting bloc. plenty of hispanics, nowhere near a majority but enough to avoid monolithic D status, are comfortable with their place in american society and are straight R voters. i bet trump will get a higher percentage of self-identified hispanic than black supporters in the exit polls One thing that hasn't been talked about much in the media is how, despite estimates of the US becoming a majority-minority in the upcoming decades, there will be more and more latinos assimilating into white culture and voting accordingly. I mean look at Ted Cruz (on second thought, don't actually look at him). Everyone sees him as the arch conservative representative of the religious right, not 'the Latino candidate'. MC Nietzche posted:This is spot on. Anyone who thinks OMG Castro = Latinos become democrats forever is engaging in the same sloppy identity poitics thinking that Republicans engage in (which leads to poo poo like Rubio thinking he can win latinos). If Hillary picks Castro, and that's something of a big if because he has quite a few negatives, then it'll be for reasons beyond young/latino. Looking back at the GOP race, Jeb! was the only one who even had a chance of winning over additional Latinos.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:One thing that hasn't been talked about much in the media is how, despite estimates of the US becoming a majority-minority in the upcoming decades, there will be more and more latinos assimilating into white culture and voting accordingly. Yep whiteness is a fluid construct and white people will just expand its definition just like they did in the past with the Irish, the Germans, the Italians, the Greeks, the Slavs, the Russians, etc.etc. In 2050 bored history students will look back in bewilderment that we ever considered latinos brown just like we're bewildered at the idea of "black Irish."
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May 3, 2016 04:47
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Al barely won his seat and has been pretty drat disappointing. Klobachar too.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Al barely won his seat and has been pretty drat disappointing. Klobachar too. What? Like, both won reelection easily and I'm curious what you find disappointing about the first term-or first portion of the second term-of either one of them?
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Darkman Fanpage posted:i thought you bernouts loved communists I.... do? I'm not really sure what your point is here, her selecting Fidel is her way of attracting Bernie's communists to her side.
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