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Josef bugman
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Heya guys, a continuation question from the last thread (and about 2 months ago now) but I was wondering if anyone knew of a place that lets you choose parts and then have them assemble it that is actually any good?

I really don't want to build a PC myself as I am not very good with my hands and more than a little worried about loving up on builds, and I don't mind paying a bit extra for shipping, but can anyone recommend anything that would help?

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It's overpriced, the ancient SSD is especially bad and should be replaced with a more recent and reliable model like the 850 EVO, here's a better, cheaper spec:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.65 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£49.52 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£67.98 @ Novatech)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.39 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 2GB Video Card (£113.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Core V31 ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.37 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer (£11.94 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) (£74.99 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £665.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-23 10:19 GMT+0000

This was the last build posted by AVeryLargeRadish that I was trying to get done, but having difficulty with.

So sorry for asking such a newbie question, thanks again for your time.

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Josef bugman
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Evil Fluffy posted:

I think HP, Dell, and most other major PC companies have (expensive) build-a-pc options. Though if you're friends with your IT department at work you could always ask one of them for a hand. You wouldn't have a warranty but it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper.

Subjunctive posted:

Many local computer stores will assemble for a varying-reasonable fee.

I'd sooner not go the Dell route, last time I had something like that it turned out that part of it had melted during transit.

I did find this site: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/intel-computers/

Any good? Or overpriced garbage?

admiraldennis posted:

What is this thing? A little diode? How worried should I be? Any way to find out what subsystem it may be part of? Sounds like a pain in the rear end to return the board, especially since I already did the build and the heatsink install and all that. And I'm not even sure if I broke it. But I don't want to be setting myself up for random problems down the road either. :sigh:

And see this is why I don't trust myself at all. No offence meant at all admiraldennis, but I am much to cack handed to be able to do anything like this.

Josef bugman
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:

I'm a clumsy gently caress and I've dropped my heavy multi-head screwdriver on my current motherboard easily a dozen times. They're resilient things, and also one of the cheapest components to replace if you gently caress something up. Because of the complexity and difficulty identifying which miniscule thing is broken, it's also really easy to return them as DOA to your vendor. Really the CPU is the only thing that you might be stuck with if you damage it, and that's a very simple install. If you follow the guide video in the OP you'll be just fine.

I can't recommend enough that you at least try to assemble your own build. If you mess something up, you can always take it to the guys you were going to have build it for you and pay them roughly the same amount to fix it. But if you don't have any comfort poking around in your case, you're going to have to go to them every time any little thing goes wrong. I can tell you from experience that is going to be a huge source of frustration for you.

See the problem is that I would need to construct it in my room, a place that has 2 rugs and carpet throughout that faces the sun during the morning, as there is no combined space where I live that isn't another persons bedroom or the kitchen, and as such surrounded by water.

I can see how much cheaper it is though, so I am still tempted, its just such a pain to build anything in a rented house.

Oh and to complete the form filling in:

What Country are you in?
The UK

What are you using the system for?
Gaming, browsing the internet, writing stuff.

What's your budget?
Maximum of £1000, but would prefer around £800

If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution?
I would like to run on Medium to High settings on most games.

I have just a laptop, that is almost 5 years old at this point, at the moment. So will also need a monitor and keyboard.

Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 08:38 on May 12, 2016

Josef bugman
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Heya guys, posted before in this thread and decided to take your combined advice and start putting together a system myself. However I am having some difficulty as the parts are arriving at different times :The case( should be arriving Thursday),
the keyboard (should be arriving today or tomorrow),
the motherboard (Thursday again)
and the DVDRW Drive, which is not even predicted to arrive at any point.

Now I would not be too worried about the later as I can merely add it on to my system once I have got it all functioning. But for the fact that the Microsoft install thing has arrived and it appears to be on a disk. Any advice? Could I transfer it to a USB if neccesary? And can my ipod be used as a USB if the worst comes to it.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

You should be able to buy a USB flash drive from a local store for very cheap, download the Windows 10 media creation tool and turn the USB stick into a bootable installation media. I dunno about the ipod but I think it is a bad idea when you should be able to get a USB flash drive for like $5-$10, especially since the process of turning the USB stick into installation media requires that the drive be formatted, i.e. erased.

Would it invalidate the 70 or so pounds I spent on the OS because if it is I am going to cry.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

As others have said, you still need the key, it's the thing you are really buying when you buy Windows, the media creation tool just gives you options for installing if you don't have an optical drive available.

Thank god. I thought it might be something like this. Now all I have to do is wait until the 21st/9th of June for the motherboard.

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Oh and an additional thing guys, it is giving me a time between the 20th of May and 8th of June for the delivery of the motherboard. Any idea why it may be taking so long?

And the MS thing says that it is intended for preinstallation on the hard drive of a fully assembled computer. Which, whilst okay, makes me wonder about the link that was popped up earlier? Did I need to enter a code, because it didn't look like it?

Again sorry for being so new to all this, I just get worried.

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xthetenth posted:

You enter the code during the installation process to tie it to the hardware. And the stupidest question is an unanswered question.

Okay, so I ran into a few articles, let me get the points have sort of learned down:

1) I download the Microsoft things in the link onto a USB and then attach it to my PC (once it is built)
2) I then open up the system that I have with me (the one that arrived via post) and input the code that is presumably in it on to my PC to bring it up to full functionality.

As additional things/questions:
1) The one I am installing is only attached to my current PC and has to remain on there, I can't just go handing it out or using it at random?
2) There is No legal problem with doing this. I only as this one because I saw a few articles saying that, in truth, the copy I physical have is mainly supposed to be used on different forms of system for more people and not for people buying and doing stuff to make a PC.

Thanks again, I maybe didn't make it clear when I was talking to you guys how new I am to all of this. Sorry.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

No idea on the delivery time on the mobo, that has everything to do with the vendor you bought it from and the shipper so it's best to contact them.

It was these guys from off of Amazon, so I assumed it was just the standard, has anyone had any difficulty with "Bora-Computer GbR"? It was what the PC part Picker recommended to buy from amazon.

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Okay. All my stuff is here and I have it all in the room I set aside to build this thing. I am missing rubbing alcohol only, do I need to clean the top of the heat spreader as it mentions in the video?

I am also pissing terrified at the moment as so bought an anti-static strap from a PC shop near me. I am still terrified, but slightly less so.

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HMS Boromir posted:

Rubbing alcohol is for cleaning thermal paste off the heat spreader when you're reseating or replacing a cooler. I assume you bought that i5-6500 system Radish recommended you, so you should have a reasonably pristine heat spreader out of the box.

It was what I got. Thanks. Still nervous, but I want to thank all of you for your help!

Argh, now I am worried because the freaking lift up arm is creaking a bit when I try and set it. How on earth have I made it to adulthood by being afraid I will break something like this.

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xthetenth posted:

It does that, just be careful and smooth. Cautious is good and warranted, afraid is less helpful. If the chip's seated right with the raised bits in the socket matching the grooves in the chip, the force will be spread nicely.

That is all now sorted, thank goodness, also installed the memory stuff. However with teh case that I have it has one raised thing and no instructions as to where exactly I screw things in in order to mount the motherboard.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

You just match the pattern of holes on the mobo to the posts on the mobo tray in the case, most cases come with the posts for the largest mobo type they fit preinstalled. Also remember to get the I/O shield in before installing the mobo, it's a real pain if you forget that and need to remove the mobo to get it in.

Okay, all of that has been done. But just as quick thing... the SSD I have didn't come with a tray and I can't seem to find where to pop it in on this one.

Nope, checked the list and no hard drive, ignore previous sweary question.

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LogicalFallacy posted:

Your case might have an attachment point for an ssd behind the mobo, so check for that. Alternatively, my case came with an adapter for 2.5" drives, so you can check in case you have one with your case parts.

Doesn't appear to. Or if it does my SSD is too large for it.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I believe you have a Cooler Master N200, yes? The SSDs can mount either under the 5.25" bays or on top of the 3.5" HDD cage, there are little metal tabs with holes in them that will fit around the SSD and then you screw it in from the sides.

Herf a derf. Thanks.

I am so sorry for turning this thread into "Josef is building a PC". Do tell me if I should gently caress off.

Oh and whichway up does the SSD go? With the little metal pad things facing towards the fan and the part that says "Samsung" facing up?

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Okay, everything put in place. Couldn't get one of the screws to fit in exactly with the Mobo though, is that going to be a problem later?

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

That can sometimes happen, it should be ok, you just want to make sure that the standoff for the screw is not contacting well away from the hole, in that case you would remove the standoff to prevent the possibility of a short, if it's just slightly misaligned you should be fine.

Its conected, just at a slightly weirder angle, for some odd reason there are two that didn't quite align with the Mobo properly.

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Imagined posted:

FWIW I'm not saying it's great advice but I've built at least six computers over the years and I've never used a static strap or anything else but the same tools I use on everything else. I've even used a magnetic screwdriver in a tight case where I couldn't get both hands in simultaneously. Never had a problem. I don't think they're as fragile as people think.

But if I was working on someone else's PC I'd be more careful.

This is kind of the first thing I have ever built that wasn't primary colours and wouldn't be ruined by being popped in your mouth, so I am just a little bit on edge. The fact that I can't stop my hands wobbling like I have delerium freakin' tremens also isn't helping.

Oh and for some reason when I try and plug the cables into their respective slots they just keep falling out. Any advice to get them to stick? Its the PLED, HDMI and all that lot ones that just keep falling out.

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Okay, went to bed and got up this morning and the LED, RESET, POWER and HD LED cables are not sticking in to the mobo, they just keep falling out if I move anything around near them.

Any advice guys?

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LogicalFallacy posted:

Advice?
I apologize, it's 2:30 in the morning and I'm getting silly. Please don't even remotely take that seriously. My mobo came with a little piece to stick all those into before putting it in the slot, perhaps you've got the same thing? Or can find something similar. I'm sure others here have much better ideas.

Well I poured glue all over everything, will computer work good now?

But yeah, doesn't seem to have anything to make them stay in though.

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blowfish posted:

Yeah that's normal. These little pins are consistently lovely in every way to the point where they only work without any tension whatsoever on the cable and your best bet is some small drops of hot glue (so you can remove them with a bit of effort later for upgrades).

As someone new to all this I really don't want to be putting hot glue near anything that could be in the computer. I've been doing the best I can with the plastic ties and tying stuff together but everything just keeps falling out of their sockets.

Should I just use a bit more force?

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blowfish posted:

They're supposed to sit flush with the motherboard.

There aren't supposed to be any sockets for the power switch/case LED plugs though, what sockets are you talking about?

Sorry, using the term "socket" wrong, its the little nubby things that have the LED connector things in them. I am having difficulty keeping them connected.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Could you take a picture or something? Because you are having issues I have never heard of or experienced and I am pretty baffled about what could be going wrong and whether something is wrong with your hardware or you are doing something wrong.

I really do not know. Got everything installed





It is now not turning on, got everything tuned in but nothing appears to be happening. If you need any more pictures please do ask.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Hmmm, try pulling more of the 24-pin cable out so that you have more slack to turn it around and plug it into the motherboard. The 24-pin typically takes a lot of force to get into its socket, there should be a latch on one side of the plug that goes over a tab on the socket. Other than that check to make sure that the power button wires are going over the correct pins, your motherboard manual should have a diagram somewhere that shows exactly which pin is which. Also looking at the latches on your RAM slots it looks like the RAM sticks are not fully in, you need to push them in until the latch on the top clicks into place. Check the video card for the same thing, you want to make sure it is firmly in its slot.

Flipped it round, it's alive!

But I am not able to make anything appear on the screen. Rechecked the graphics but will check again.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Do you have the monitor plugged into the video card or the motherboard? It has to be plugged into the video card otherwise it won't output video. Also check the monitor for a menu that lets you select the source for the video signal, some monitors won't automatically detect the correct source so you have to set it manually.

Checked and it wasn't going there automatically, but still not much thus far.

Also, just as a quick question but what parts should be moving when I turn the computer on?

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blowfish posted:

All the fans, the hard drive should also spin up, the DVD drive might make a noise.

I only have an SSD and no DVD drive. But they do all spin when I turn it on, so there is that.

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blowfish posted:

Pull all parts, connect one stick of RAM, connect the screen to the motherboard's graphics output. You should see the splash screen and an error message about a missing boot drive.

Done. But nothing has responded, unfortunately.

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Have you checked all the plugs to make sure they are firmly in? The important ones are the 24-pin main mobo power and the 8-pin CPU power near the top of the motherboard.

Checked and double checked. Now the lights won't come on on the front of the case.

Removed the stuff by stuff I mean the RAM, the graphics card and the SSD.

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blowfish posted:

Put 1 RAM stick back in, and if it doesn't work, try another RAM slot and another RAM stick.

Also done. Still not turning on at the front either.

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blowfish posted:

Ok, you mentioned the fans spinning up. I assume that's after you press the power button?

Not any more. It now is just quiet and it is doing nothing.

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blowfish posted:

:psyduck:

double check whether you're connecting the correct connector to the on/off switch panel in the correct position (sometimes retarded poo poo like the reset switch/power switch being labelled the wrong way round on either the board or the case can happen), and short the pins for the power switch with a screwdriver to check if the power switch is somehow broken (this is what the switch would normally do)

It is still making the clicking noise when I flip the switch if that helps. I am sorry for this, I've set up a thread in the sub forum and won't be bothering you all with this again.

Thank you all so much for all your help and advice over these past few days. It has been very much appreciated. I am sorry I am such a loving mess that I can't even build something this simple.

Link below for the thread if you wish to help, but I can more than understand not wanting to listen to this whining:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3777127

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Just as a minor thing, but the computer build that I have should be able to connect up to the internet as usual anyway, right?


CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock H170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Monitor: Asus VC239H 60Hz 23.0" Monitor

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