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Smash it Smash hit posted:what kinda idiot thinks you can build a literal wall across a 2000 mile border what amaroon what a joke come on come on come on U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported that it had more than 640 miles of fence in place by the second week of January, 2010.[5] Work is still under way on fence segments in Texas and on the Border Infrastructure System in California. The border fence is not one continuous structure and is actually a grouping of short physical walls that stop and start, secured in between with "virtual fence" which includes a system of sensors and cameras monitored by Border Patrol Agents.[6] As a result of the effect of the barrier, there has been a marked increase in the number of people trying to illegally cross the Sonoran Desert and crossing over the Baboquivari Mountain in Arizona.[7] Such illegal immigrants must cross 50 miles (80 km) of inhospitable terrain to reach the first road, which is located in the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation
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Tace Vim posted:is there even enough steel and concrete in America to build this wall? The wall was already almost half finished 5 years ago so it's absolutely a possible thing It's also worked As of March 2010, the Department of Homeland Security had spent $3.4 billion on border fences and had built 640 miles (1,030 km) of fences and barriers as part of the Secure Border Initiative.[28] So let's estimwre maybe another 7-8 billion to finish up. Totally doable. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 13:43 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 13:40
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It might not be a bad idea to actually leave a little strip of desert clear, but fill it full of traps and obstacles so only the fittest and smartest can survive to enter the us
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May 9, 2016 13:46
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Like that movie the maze runner (Nb: i have not actually seen this movie but i saw the trailer for it)
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May 9, 2016 13:48
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Frankenstyle posted:Oh it can be done. The big question is what kinda of idiot thinks that doing it will actually fix any of the weird irrational fears they snuggle up with at night. Illegal immigration depressing working-class wages by oversupplying the labor market? Seems like a pretty rational concern
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May 9, 2016 13:50
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Frankenstyle posted:That's an awkward way of saying that the current systems works pretty well, and now they're stopping more people from crossing than they used to be able to before the increase in manpower and surveillance over the last decade. The current system of building a giant 640 mile long wall covered with sensors and cameras you mean? Yes and if rhey expanded the wall it would probably work even better
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May 9, 2016 13:54
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Zorodius posted:We need a maze, with shifting walls and carefully timed flamethrowers and a riddle sphinx that guards a bridge Hm no just draft them into the military after that. Service guarantees citizenship
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May 9, 2016 13:56
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ButteCysts posted:lol there are actual idiots who think building a wall on a border is a good idea that would work Jokes on you we already built a wall 10 years ago and turns out that it works
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May 9, 2016 14:01
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Serious Frolicking posted:you actually can get us citizenship by serving in the military Yeah but this is a way to recruit people since apparently mexicans would rather risk certain death by walking through 50 miles of barren desert
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May 9, 2016 14:03
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Frankenstyle posted:Oh yeaaaah. Cause you know, Mexicans can't look up. Also they're too lazy to dig, and they haven't discovered ladder technology. God help us if they ever put together a wall research program. Except so fsr it has been effective, and has funneled illegal migrants into crossing a deadly desert wasteland, increasing the cost and risks of illegal entry The point of a wall isnt to be impregnable, it's to increase the cost of illegal crossing to the point where it poor unskilled laborers can't afford it
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May 9, 2016 14:07
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Drugs are a special case in that they're so valuable that even elaborate plans like tunnels and submarines still make economic sense. Not so much for people who are sneaking in to make less than minimum wage
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May 9, 2016 14:09
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Frankenstyle posted:Oops, I forgot. Do you think we should conscript all brown people into slavery to the state, or just Mexicans? I mean it'd be a tougher sell to just round up everybody, but it'd feel like a missed opportunity if we didn't even try right? It's only people who pass the 50 mile obstacle course. Give them the choice of serving and becoming citizens or else having to crawl back to mexico I mean you can join the military as a non-citizen anyway, but this way there's more prestige
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May 9, 2016 14:21
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solaranus posted:Have you seen how nice Canadians are though? Casus belli wasn't manufactured in a day. Just send some native americans as the ambassadors. Well be lucky if they make it back in one piece
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May 9, 2016 14:24
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Frankenstyle posted:That's true. It's really put the kibosh on my dreams of becoming a migrant orange picker. Without cheap migrant labor, agribusiness would have to either increase wages to a livable level or else invest in more technology and automation. And guess who's a world leader in engineering, farm machinery, and robotics?
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May 9, 2016 14:29
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criscodisco posted:But where does that put us, on a moral scale, letting whole families die because they broke the law (in the hopes of a better tomorrow). Actually us border patrol runs intensive sweeps looking for people in distress or need of aid. They've saved thousands of people who were abandoned by their hhuman traffickers and lrft to die. The funnel effect of the walls mskes it easier to keep those areas under surveillance, while the desert serves mostly to slow them down so it's more likely they are spotted
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May 9, 2016 14:32
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The Goatfather posted:the main problem with building a wall is that we'll just have to do it again when texas secedes. we'd do best just to build a shorter wall straight across north texas The best way to deal with that is to just make sure there's no survivors after the secession wars
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May 9, 2016 14:35
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Apparently the contracror they chose to build the current wall was Boeing
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May 9, 2016 14:47
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etalian posted:A civil engineer estimated the wall would cost 37 billion just for labor and materials. The current 640 mile wall cost about 3.5 billion The design isnt one giant wall, it's sections of wall and fencing with a "virtual wall" of sensors and cameras between them. So i bet it would really cost like 8-10 billion to finisn the other 1400 miles
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May 9, 2016 14:52
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If you want a $15 minimum wage we gotta build that wall and crack down om businesses that hire illegals for less than minimum wage
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May 9, 2016 15:04
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