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Windows 98 posted:How can the island function at all with 90% unemployment? The Australian government pays Nauru a ton of money to warehouse refugees. It's also a developing nation, so the whole "jobs" thing isn't really comparable to first world economies. As mentioned upthread, there are a lot of tiny Pacific Islands with small populations and no real infrastructure or central economy where people survive at subsistence level. Indonesia alone has 13,000 islands. Lolie fucked around with this message at 23:26 on May 9, 2016 |
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Prettz posted:You really can't call an island that will be underwater in 10 or 15 years a "developing nation". It's more like undeveloping. Being a sunken island will probably at least attract divers and make it a more desirable location to visit than it is now.
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Isaac posted:I think they invested in a whole lot of ridiculous poo poo. I think a decade or so ago they were the highest GDP per capita in the world. It was 40-50 years ago, back when superphosphate bounties were a thing.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Just to highlight the cruel absurdity of Australia's fear of brown people: the government was sick of being told by the high courts that they had to treat refugees like human beings and not immediately ship them to remote gulags , so in 2013 they excised the entire mainland from the migration zone, meaning that anyone who reaches Australia by boat is immediately flown off to Nauru or Manus Island or some other remote shithole with no right to refugee status, legal advice or anything resembling humane treatment. To further highlight how extreme "The Pacific Solution" is, the Australian government will not allow other countries to offer the people in detention on Nauru asylum. A couple of months ago there was a shitstorm over this when doctors in Australia refused to release from hospital a little girl who had been sent from Nauru to Australia for medical treatment. New Zealand offered to grant the little girl and her mother asylum. The Australian government refused to let that happen because - I poo poo you not - if they became citizens of New Zealand they may attempt to enter Australia at some time in the future (apparently DImmi isn't competent enough to refuse them entry should this ever happen). At times you seriously have to wonder about the level of corruption it's taking to ensure that the companies running our detention centres don't lose that revenue stream.
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glowing-fish posted:
The Pacific is full of Lord of the Flies islands.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:One thing about small Pacific countries that is kinda striking when you get there is how much influence they are under from other countries. At the other end of the spectrum you have the ones which time pretty much forgot, like Palm Island. "Independence" in those places has pretty much meant indifference to how people live on the islands until some scandal shines a media spotlight on them and people who didn't even know those places exist want "somebody" to "do something" to somehow repair decades of neglect and make them functioning societies.
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IPCRESS posted:Considering the delightful conditions on Nauru and Manus, I'm surprised that more people didn't take up the opportunity to be re-settled in Cambodia. It's going to get worse. Broadspectrum (formerly Transfield) operates both centres and is currently in the middle of a hostile take-over bid by Spanish multinational Ferrovial. You can't even boycott any of these oval office companies because they have fingers in so many pies and have a poo poo ton of government contracts for services unrelated to immigration.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrovial Lolie fucked around with this message at 01:29 on May 13, 2016 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Secondary boycotts are illegal in Australia as well. Consumers can boycott any organisation they like. It's just hard to avoid doing business with these cunts when they have the contracts to deliver infrastructure services. Ferrovial operates Sydney airport, among other things. I swear that if any state had the balls to refuse to award these fuckers contracts, I'd move there. Unfortunately, we're all indirectly supporting these companies by consuming services they provide on behalf of the federal and state governments. Until something changes, we can't shut these fuckers down by expressing our outrage either politically or economically. boom boom boom posted:how is it possible for a boycott to be illegal? They're talking about "sympathy" actions by unions. While they are illegal, the government would poo poo itself if there was any widespread industrial action on the scale of the 1970s and early 1980s. You can't prosecute everyone when you have a full scale general strike. Lolie fucked around with this message at 01:47 on May 13, 2016 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I thought Abbott managed to pass that law to stop environmentalists boycotting Harvey Norman for using wood from old growth forests? It's kind of a toothless tiger because it was framed as a change to competition laws and you can only apply it to certain groups - specifically, consumer and environmental groups - trying to run a campaign against an industry. http://www.treasury.gov.au/~/media/...A_combined.ashx You also can't use it to bypass the right to campaign against government actions, even if those actions are taken by private organisations acting on behalf of the government. Lolie fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 13, 2016 |
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Count Chocula posted:Australia's detention centers are a national shame, and in future generations will be looked at like slavery is looked at by Americans. They're an international shame. The nations which accept money from Australia to house them are just as culpable, as are the corporations which operate them. It would be a hell of a lot easier to do something about them if they weren't off-shore and if they weren't operated by private entities.
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doctorfrog posted:I wonder if Nauru was settled by people exiled from other islands, or was it pretty decent for that sort of island when it was settled. Sorta like how colonial Australia started as a penal colony. Like if there was a common ground, maybe Australia would be really nice to them, then. Or, by making the island a jail, it's sort of a weird diminishing historical rhyme scheme. We've done it in at least 3 locations we used to administer for colonial reasons - Christmas Island, Nauru and Papua New Guinea. None were originally British penal colonies. Also, more info on the medivac mentioned earlier. quote:A Somali refugee and her newborn baby have been airlifted from Nauru to Brisbane in a critical condition. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-13/naura-refugee-newborn-son-airlifted-to-brisbane-hospital/7411796 Lolie fucked around with this message at 06:24 on May 13, 2016 |
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Billmac posted:loving colonialism, goddamn man. We just took back control of Norfolk Island because they can't run themselves. Colonialism is alive and well in the 21st Century.
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Blizzy_Cow posted:Could some other country possibly step in to help these people out or should we just let them be until they return to the ocean in like 10 years? From memory they already receive aid from multiple countries. Short of the UAE or someone deciding to build them an artificial island, the residents will eventually become refugees themselves and have to be relocated at some point - gently caress knows where and who will pay for it. I suspect many will want to go to other struggling islands, further straining resources in those places.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:Didn't all those manmade islands in the UAE sink back into the water after like a year anyway? There are artificial islands throughout the world which have been around for a long time. I just can't see any nation paying to build one for the people of Nauru unless it's done as an ostentatious display of wealth.
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