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 Star Fox Zero! Star Fox Zero was released on the Wii U years ago, waaaaaaaay back on April 22nd, 2016. It was developed by Platinum Games, a company also known for a range of titles including Bayonetta and Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. It was announced at E3 2014 for the 2015 holidays, but that sort of fell through. One of Platinum Games’ main directors, Hideki Kamiya, was a huge fan of the Star Fox series and had posted on Twitter multiple times about how much he’d love to revive the franchise. Which turned out to be a mistake because then he was constantly inundated with requests from fans and media about what direction he would take and what his vision was for a new entry. Eventually he told everyone to gently caress off, and now his name does not appear in the credits. Star Fox Zero was directed by Yugo Hayashi and Yusuke Hashimoto; according to Hashimoto, Kamiya’s only creative input in the game was telling Hashimoto to “do his best.” But apparently, Hashimoto’s ‘best’ wasn’t good enough, because Star Fox Zero has received lukewarm reception at best from critics and fans alike. Metacritic has the game scored at 69/100 – common complaints are with the controls, which utilize the gyroscope within the Wii U’s gamepad; the length of the game (it’s far too short); and some are split on whether it’s too much like Star Fox 64 or it’s not enough like it. They also deride some of the alternative vehicle missions, saying that it takes away too much from the core Arwing gameplay. Frankly, I love this game. I think a lot of the complaints towards it are unfair, and I’m worried that some people might be turned off from its half-and-half critical reception. So that’s why I’m LPing it: if you want to experience the game but you don’t want to spend $70, I’m playing it so you don’t have to. And also, because I love it. Videos: Corneria  Episode 1: Run 1 Episode 8: Run 2 Episode 17: Run 3 Sector α  Episode 2: Run 1 Episode 13: Run 3 Area Three  Episode 3: Run 1 Episode 9: Run 2 Episode 14: Run 3 Zoness  Episode 4: Run 1 Episode 9: Run 2 Sector β  Episode 5: Run 1 Episode 10: Run 2 Fortuna  Episode 6: Run 1 Episode 16: Run 3 Sector ω  Episode 7: Run 1 Aquarosa  Episode 8: Run 2 Titania  Episode 10: Run 2 Episode 15: Run 3 Sector γ  Episode 11: Run 2 Fichina  Episode 12: Run 2 Wolfen  Episode 13: Run 3 Meteo  Episode 14: Run 3 Salvadora  Episode 15: Run 3 Lone Wolf  Episode 16: Run 3 Venom  Episode 18: Finale  Star Fox Guard was bundled with Star Fox Zero on its release day, coming in a double-wide package containing two cases for game discs. Later printings of Star Fox Zero removed the disc for Guard in favour of giving the customer a download code for the Wii U Shop instead. The game is free with the purchase of Zero or sold separately. The game was first announced by Shigeru Miyamoto back at E3 2014, the same time as Star Fox Zero, but back then it was codenamed "Project Guard." The game originally had nothing to do with Star Fox at all, but Project Guard was rebranded, renamed, and re-announced at a Nintendo Direct back in March of 2016, one month before Zero's release. It was directed by Yugo Hayashi and Teruaki Konishi, and was also developed by Platinum Games. Despite the name and the aesthetic, Guard couldn't be any further removed from the Star Fox franchise. Rather than a rail-shooter dramedy about talking animals in space, it's a tower defense game and contains a minimal amount of character interaction. Its reception has generally been mixed: critics praised its gameplay and the myriad of features available for it, including a stage editor and customizable enemies, but generally people are turned off by its meh graphics and second-rate audio production. We thought about doing a full LP of this game, but then we kinda... didn't. I guess it didn't really Grippy us like Platinum had hoped, hahahaha! Videos: Episode 1: he lives Maple Leaf fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 17, 2016 |
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May 13, 2016 06:54
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Ground level for this LP, given I never played it nor saw past the second episode.
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May 13, 2016 06:55
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This is a good game and I am glad you got to it before someone less enthused may have.
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May 13, 2016 06:58
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GamesAreSupernice posted:This is a good game and I am glad you got to it before someone less enthused may have. There is room in Let's Play for ell pee videos of all types.
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May 13, 2016 07:03
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RareAcumen posted:There is room in Let's Play for ell pee videos of all types. There is!, but I was saying I personally am glad to see someone enthusiastic about the game show it off, is all. I look forward to seeing new things about games I may not have noticed myself.
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May 13, 2016 07:24
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this game owns, haters gonna hate but baby just roll it off
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May 13, 2016 07:31
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Anyone who found the controls to be an issue didn't play it for more than ten minutes, I'm convinced. The game isn't perfect, but it can stand next to Lylat Wars solidly. This one best captures the Thunderbirds mood of all three Star Fox games.
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May 13, 2016 08:09
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Yeah, this game is pretty drat great. Some of the complaints I totally understand where it's coming from though. Like, having the boost/brake/barrel roll on the right stick messed me up badly at first, having been used to those being mapped to buttons in every other star fox game. And the whole "gotta use the gyro aiming and use both viewpoints effectively" is something that takes some getting used to. Still, at the end of the day, it's a fantastic game, and I'm definitely going to be watching this LP.
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May 13, 2016 08:11
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XavierGenisi posted:Yeah, this game is pretty drat great. Some of the complaints I totally understand where it's coming from though. Like, having the boost/brake/barrel roll on the right stick messed me up badly at first, having been used to those being mapped to buttons in every other star fox game. And the whole "gotta use the gyro aiming and use both viewpoints effectively" is something that takes some getting used to. putting boost, brake, sharp turning, and barrel rolling all on the right stick lets you do combinations of those moves in conjunction with basic movement, independent aiming, and actually firing your lasers all at the same time. it feels a little weird to push L or R twice to roll but it works waaay better than sf64 in my opinion i adore 64 but trying to aim at anything not directly in front of you kinda sucks, especially in the landmaster, and it always takes me a bit to remember which C button does what
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May 13, 2016 09:00
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Looper posted:it feels a little weird to push L or R twice to roll but it works waaay better than sf64 in my opinion (The actual way you want to barrel roll is by flicking the stick back and forth; a quick right-left or left-right motion.)
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May 13, 2016 10:49
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I think the real travesty is that this game is really, really good, and yet, because of all the flak it's getting for some of the dumber reasons I've seen, this might potentially be the last Star Fox game we get for a long time. Still, this ought to be a good LP.
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May 13, 2016 12:41
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Count Bleck posted:I think the real travesty is that this game is really, really good, and yet, because of all the flak it's getting for some of the dumber reasons I've seen, this might potentially be the last Star Fox game we get for a long time. I agree. It feels like they could have done a lot with a sequel, but I'm not sure the game did well enough to justify one.
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May 13, 2016 13:33
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quote:They called the sixth Star Fox game "Star Fox Zero" makes sense if time is indeed cyclical as I suspect that it is in the star fox universe
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May 13, 2016 13:43
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Sweet, another Maple Leaf LP!  And another troubled Nintendo reboot, huh? Welp.
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May 13, 2016 14:05
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Are you gonna get all the medals?
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May 13, 2016 14:12
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I'm glad someone with a love for this game is getting on this before someone showed up and goes "But-but-but gamepaaaaad weh!" I will say some critics are fair with the camera being a bit too close in sections thus making the the use of both TV and gamepad almost necessary, but if you've played literally any WiiU game where the pad was implemented for more than just a map or status screen you'd be used to this kind of thing already. Not to mention you CAN just...switch to just the gamepad and play the game like a normal Star Fox game on there and while that's got a few issues it does solve a good chunk of criticism, it's almost like switching screens was one of the big selling points of the WiiU or something.
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May 13, 2016 14:49
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Looper posted:this game owns, haters gonna hate but baby just roll it off the line is shake it off not roll it off
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May 13, 2016 15:44
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This game is good and controls fine and I don't understand why literally nobody could figure out gamepad aiming in this game when lots of people liked it just fine when Splatoon did it.
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May 13, 2016 16:04
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do a barrel roll
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May 13, 2016 16:25
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Putty posted:do a barrel roll please don't post spoilers.
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Looper posted:putting boost, brake, sharp turning, and barrel rolling all on the right stick lets you do combinations of those moves in conjunction with basic movement, independent aiming, and actually firing your lasers all at the same time. it feels a little weird to push L or R twice to roll but it works waaay better than sf64 in my opinion While, like I said in the video, the controls are practically second-nature to me at this point, I still can't get the hang of how somersaults and U-turns are performed by pressing down-up or down-down respectively. Sometimes I'm just trying to pull up and hit the brakes, and suddenly I'm facing the wrong direction entirely. I think I'd rather them be mapped to buttons only. Sam Faust posted:Are you gonna get all the medals? Of course!
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May 13, 2016 17:05
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Anoia posted:Sweet, another Maple Leaf LP! Fun fact, he and I also discuss thread titles. I thought "The Fox is not in our stars, but in ourselves" was my best contribution. Yes, Maple Leaf, I still think it's funny.
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May 13, 2016 19:16
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I'm still pretty partial to "Always bring a Fox to a dogfight," myself.
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May 13, 2016 19:24
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frozentreasure posted:(The actual way you want to barrel roll is by flicking the stick back and forth; a quick right-left or left-right motion.) 
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May 13, 2016 21:02
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This game is great. I still like 64 more, but this is the first time that's been challenged. I turn around and somersault too much on accident and mess up a lot with the gyro aiming. The best part is actually the co-op. I can fly exactly as I need to while my buddy kills everything that exists. It has some fun moments itself. "Hey, I can't shoot the thing!" "I can't see where we're going because of the cutscene here on the TV!" Then we manage to kill stuff anyways.
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May 13, 2016 21:28
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Olive Branch posted:Maple Leaf's pattern is to take good (or bad) reboots and play 'em through, I've noticed. Kid Icarus, Goldeneye, Sticker Star, this game, Other M...
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May 13, 2016 22:08
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Golden Goat posted:I want "Star Fox is my team, not my name!" 
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May 13, 2016 22:18
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Maple Leaf posted:I still can't get the hang of how somersaults and U-turns are performed by pressing down-up or down-down respectively. Sometimes I'm just trying to pull up and hit the brakes, and suddenly I'm facing the wrong direction entirely. I think I'd rather them be mapped to buttons only. Are you giving the sticks a quick, simultaneous flick, like the tutorial said? I haven't had a problem using the sticks for them, and the sticks actually make the move faster; if you press the button, the somersault or U-turn comes out at a normal speed, but using the sticks makes the Arwing boost through the move.
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May 13, 2016 22:19
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frozentreasure posted:Anyone who found the controls to be an issue didn't play it for more than ten minutes, I'm convinced. That's aboot all I could stand. I got killed in level 2 and immediately went cold. Thank you, Let's Play, for letting me experience a game without my ineptitude getting in the way.
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May 13, 2016 22:30
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I only beat the first three levels before I had to quit. Maybe my gamepad is crappy, but i had to reset the gyroscope every 30 seconds to even have any kind of control. Just like Star Fox Command, it feels like Nintendo went for awkward controls for the sake of doing something new.
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May 13, 2016 22:54
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Was hoping some one would do this. The fact that is Mapple Leaf is hilariously appropriate though.
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May 13, 2016 23:19
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If you're having problems with the gyro aiming, you can always switch it to the alternate scheme, where it's centered in front of your ship unless you're shooting or charging a shot, where then it unlocks the gyro aim.
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May 14, 2016 01:02
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Played this game and managed to beat it once. The thing that turned me off was the whole cutscene /locked camera thing. It just came across as so annoying.
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May 14, 2016 01:44
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I just spotted this in the New LPs thread and my first reaction was "wait this game is out?" Definitely watching this as it was one of the like, three Wii U games I had any interest in at all.
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May 14, 2016 04:58
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What did they do to the Arwing? That chicken walker mode.... 
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May 14, 2016 05:59
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What did they do to the Arwing? That chicken walker mode.... Resurrected a feature from the unreleased SNES Sequel. 
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May 14, 2016 06:15
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I was concerned when I bought Star Fox Zero after reading reviews criticizing the controls, but the game was actually pretty enjoyable. Co-op was especially nice, since you've got a set-up that encourages two players to constantly talk to each other and coordinate efforts. An excellent couch game. Overall, I'm a little disappointed in the amount of content we actually got and in how easy a lot of the game is once you've gotten good with the controls, but Star Fox Zero was good fun while it lasted and I'm probably going to replay it with other people a few more times. Looking forward to the LP!
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May 14, 2016 07:56
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This game is sick, though I do understand the complaints. One thing I like is how even though the controls are hard to get used to they make a lot of sense with how the game works. Also the alternatives to the Arwing are actually really fun too (walker mode is the best addition). Really, the whole reboot nature of things to me feels like they are bringing things back to 64 so they can have a good base to build off of for future games. All that being said, I would recommend people to wait for a sale or price drop for this game. As much as I love it, it is pretty meager for a full $70 price tag, though Star Fox Guard at least takes a bit of the sting off of that.
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The good thing about them rebooting the franchise again (remember, 64 itself was essentially a remake of the SNES game) is they no longer have to deal with all the crap that got added to the series from Adventures onward. This way if they make another game we can get the proper Star Fox sequel we should have gotten after 64. As for the game itself, while I found the controls annoying at first it can get pretty fun once you're used to it. Also, you don't really need both screens to play the game as you can switch between them at any time by pressing the - button on the gamepad, I personally found this easier than having to shift my focus from the TV to the gamepad all the time. Larryb fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 14, 2016 |
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