Civilization VI: I Get A Little Bit Genghis Khan

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SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

The Human Crouton posted:

Why don't they bring back Baba Yetu? Opening Civ 4 for the first time made me feel awesome and ready to forge a civilizatuon in my image.

Don't want to use it too much, I guess

# ¿ May 15, 2016 03:28

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# ¿ May 3, 2024 10:23

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Ratios and Tendency posted:

What's dated about the philosophy of SMAC?

A lot actually it's definitely a game of it's time.

# ¿ May 16, 2016 02:35

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Don't want to do a huge write up but three examples : Zakharov's philosophy in the modern era doesn't really work "for science" as an idea has really been on the backfoot and you'd have to mash Santiago's militant FARC type thing doesn't exist either and Godwin would have to way more the right kind of Christian than she already was.

Morgan would totally still work though.

Hogama posted:

I always find it entertaining to follow the civilization lists as they're revealed, for the main entries and their DLCs, as well as the leaders.

It's still early yet, but going wholly by the history of the series, the "core" list of civs would be

America
The Aztec Empire
China
Egypt
England
France
Germany
Greece
India
Japan*
Persia**
Rome
Russia

That's 13 civs that can probably be reliably expected to return, out of possibly 18 (that's been the base for the past two games, up from 16 in Civ 3). Arabia's made a strong showing since first appearing in Play the World, too. I'd guess Firaxis would want at least one more Native American and African representative, too, though they haven't been as consistent about those. Perhaps the Iroquois will make their third showing.

*Only in the console versions of Civ 1, replacing Zulu, but the SNES title came out the same year as the MS-DOS game, so I count it.
**Wasn't in Civ 1, but has always been a base since Civ 2. They didn't make it to the Revolution games, though.

Japan is in there are Samurai mentioned in interviews

# ¿ May 16, 2016 18:12

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Poil posted:

Monty needs his bff Shaka though. They're the dynamic duo of Civilization. And by dynamic I of course mean aggressive. It will likely be an interesting if you start sandwiched between them.

At the same time though it's kind of annoying that aggressive rear end in a top hat civ will forever be Genghis, Monty ,Shaka though.

# ¿ May 16, 2016 18:21

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

berryjon posted:

I see you haven't played Civ 4 yet.

She doesn't count because if you have the same religion she's fine.

# ¿ May 16, 2016 18:33

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

I'm so glad they're using a new engine. Civ 5 was such a CPU hog and it had no reason to be.

# ¿ May 24, 2016 22:09

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Eiba posted:

As a reminder, America with Roosevelt gets the Rough Riders, which is a ridiculously personal unique unit.

In fact it's so personal, I can dream of a Civ VI where there are multiple leaders, who each have a particular unique unit. Like Roosevelt might have rough riders, mustangs and movie studios, but Washington gets minute men, mustangs and movie studios.

Actually that's the only way I can really imagine multiple leaders working meaningfully without combining stock traits like Civ IV, or coming up with a ridiculous number of unique bonuses for civs.

This one is supposed to be easier to mod,so it wouldn't be too hard.

# ¿ May 28, 2016 00:08

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Looks like the Ottomans are in

https://twitter.com/CivGame/status/736968372559040512

# ¿ May 29, 2016 19:01

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

http://www.gadgethelpline.com/civilization-vi-pre-release-details-emerge-whats-changed/

-Way easier to convert cities with religion apparently
-Religious victory or at least easier to do domination through religion

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 23:22

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Sperglord Firecock posted:

I didn't see a Civ V thread, so I figured I'd ask this here.

Why the hell is my nation always getting stuck in these godawful starting positions? It's not that good places to settle don't exist, they most definitely do, but whenever I start, I end up stuck right in the middle of tundra, desert, or jungle with nothing around.

Maybe it's something to do with the custom nations I'm using? I'll try turning off start bias and see if that makes a change because goddamn, tundra starts suuuuuuck.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3558848

Depends on what civ you're using.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 14:56

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

https://www.facebook.com/civ/

They just did like a 30 min live stream Q&A about the game the video is on the page.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2016 03:00

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Here's some stuff about how the cities work in Civ 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vVGQThK01M

# ¿ Jun 20, 2016 16:50

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Digital Jedi posted:

Civilization 6 E3 Demo, Narrated by Sean Bean

Didn't see this posted yet.

Makes me so much more excited.
And really hope Bean does narration within the game not just these videos.

And here is a live stream of that demo going into detail.

https://www.twitch.tv/firaxisgames/v/74092701

Don't have to settle on the coast to build ships loving finally

edit: Does has to be within 3 tiles of the sea though. And something about fresh water vs salt water too.

SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jun 24, 2016

# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 02:24

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

SniperWoreConverse posted:

there's an old poem about making coffee spurs elucidating conversations or whatever, i'm gonna try to find it. It came out when they were still called "berries" instead of coffee beans

in the meantime you might as well add in tobacco
weed & poppies too I guess.

has anyone made a TCC themed mod before?

I'm not sure but I think tobacco is in

# ¿ Jul 4, 2016 22:44

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Civfanatics classics

Cleopatra is greek not Egyptian
Alexander is Macedonian *frothing rage* suggests greek dictator as replacement
Germany didn't exist until the 1800s should only use modern leaders
Why is it called England instead of Britian?
Really, Really, Really mad about Brazil being in but brings up not liking America in as a deflection
Female leader? Didn't actually rule country *ignores literally all the guys who did nothing but fight and die or never lead a country* Unprovoked rant about pc culture
And finally ,why is (Native ,African, SE Asian) civ here should be another Rome Civ or obscure Eastern European ethnic group

edit: I know I missed a bunch.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2016 00:50

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Tree Bucket posted:

That end game Xcom challenge sounds pretty much perfect.

Anyway, these new leader screens are wonderful. Such a relief after the weird statue people of V! (Tilts head, bends finger, raises voice slightly)

The art sytle is nice mix of Civ 4 (which I thought I was too cartoony) and Civ 5 which was way too stiff. To actually looks ok

# ¿ Jul 21, 2016 07:44

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

victrix posted:

Is Sean Bean doing the tech tree, or was that just a thing for that E3 demo?

It's really unclear as to whether on not he's just doing the game intro and the demos. I'd assume yes but you never know.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2016 01:26

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Ghostlight posted:

I think the UI in VI is beautiful in general, but dear god, someone get an outline on that highlighted text.

They also need a color blind mode. The view for city settling is red, light green, and green.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 00:41

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Kajeesus posted:

Hell, this even tripped up the dev team when they were developing Gods & Kings. They wanted the Dutch to have the ability to turn coasts into land, but map tiles were really hard-coded in Civ V.

I really hope they get this in an expansion

# ¿ Aug 26, 2016 01:34

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

iirc BE had really interesting and creative lire that they just... Never showed you basically?

Like you could go into the civpedia to read about it but if you didn't it was basically just "there's a weird creature here, +1 to food or whatever" or "no village was ruined by trade"

Prime example of this is one of the wonders basically gives out immortality and gameplay wise nothing comes of it.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2016 04:25

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Flagrant Abuse posted:

Non-toxx calling it now: Greece.

Greece will probably be last since that's showing off the multiple leaders feature

# ¿ Sep 6, 2016 22:10

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Brannock posted:

Aside from Fat Teddy, the only thing I don't like about the game's look thus far is 3D modeled Wonders instead of painting.

You know they changed that model right?

# ¿ Sep 23, 2016 12:44

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Baronjutter posted:

I really hope someone figures out an interesting science system for strategy games because flat "science points" you spend on a tree always leads to science snowballing, while on the other hand you have Paradox games where everything is designed so that science is barely a thing and it's almost impossible to get ahead and even if you do it just means you have a +18% bonus to do shock damage when flanking an enemy fleet that has a lower leadership value than your leader's morale level but only when certain events trigger, scaled with your available force pool and number of provinces.

I'd love some game some time that actually tried to model actual science and progress in a realistic but still interesting way.

The issue with this is scientific progress doesn't really go in a straight line or a web or anything like that. Something like that would be a game by itself. Sometimes you just have to lose something for gameplay reasons (the reason why Civ doesn't do stuff like supply lines for war)

# ¿ Sep 27, 2016 22:03

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

I think Scythia is getting hit with the nerf hammer first I know they're moving away from resource requirements but 2 for 1 unit seems insane.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2016 22:10

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Tarquinn posted:

I like Quill18.

Also, what happend to MadDjinn? Wasn't he like the premier Civ V youtuber and now he's doing no Civ VI?

He had a trip to Spain planned when they did the pre release stuff so oh whelp

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

You bet your rear end they do. It almost always breaks flow and pacing in the introduction of the game and makes it that much harder to get invested in what's going on when someone has to tell your grizzled detective how to operate a doorknob or whatever. In ye olden days they could just stuff all that crap in the manual and it was the player's own fault for not reading instructions. But now nobody wants to read anything unless it's required, so, surprise! you have to force them to read and understand instructions (or just mash buttons wildly) to progress. Otherwise you get a million loud, angry rants online about how your lovely game doesn't work and won't let them progress.

I mean, it's possible to do an ingame tutorial well, but it's a goddamn art form that very few games get right.

Go watch any Valve video they have on game design and see them talk about how hard it is to get people to do something like look upwards.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2016 01:09

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

I think it's more demand really. Everybody wants to play Catherine the Great or one of the Caesars, but I doubt most fans are going to care much for the distinction of the two Montezumas.

Also, Kongo was maybe not the best example there, since they have a very notable alternative leader choice there. I mean I guess not Kongo proper, but I think it would count for the purposes of Civ. Might also be interesting to have an alternative Kongo that will fight colonial powers instead of demand to be converted.

Isn't she already a great general though?

efb but maybe for an expansion?

# ¿ Oct 14, 2016 00:23

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

Yeah it's Persia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIhkrcFIVow

UA:Satrapies Free trade route when Political Philosophy is unlocked and a bonus to internal trade routes
UU: Immortal A ranged attack and higher combat defense than the normal swordsman
UI: Pairidaeza Gives Gold, Culture, and Appeal with bonuses for adjacent districts and city centers. Yields increase with tech and civic tree progression

Cyrus's UA :Fall of Babylon After declaring a surprise war all Persian units get bonus movement and takes less of a diplomatic penalty for declaring surprise war.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 15:35

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# ¿ May 3, 2024 10:23

SirKibbles: Feb 27, 2011; I didn't like your old red text so here's some dancing cash.

SHISHKABOB posted:

For like what one turn?

It doesn't say

# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 15:42

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