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Could Chris Masters really not come up with a promo photo better than him looking intensely bored?Super No Vacancy posted:be forewarned i am about two shows away from making very provocative statements about aaw relative to pwg I will fight you
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oatgan posted:In addition to this you sell way more merch This is definitely worth pointing out. Like, I don't know what Dalton Castle gets paid for working a PWG match vis-a-vis Ring of Honor or Chikara, but I know that at both the shows he's been to so far he loving cleaned up on t-shirts. And that's not even counting Pentagon selling out of his entire stock including like the 150 dollar masks before last year's BOLA weekend was even over.
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Jul 15, 2016 19:36
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How does Lio Rush not make that poster
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Jul 15, 2016 20:13
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El Gallinero Gros posted:PWG also has a deal with Highspots which probably cuts back on production costs for DVD's, where they make pretty solid money. Plus they probably get a small cut from the Highspots channel. Hero would make sense if he hadn't already lost to Sabre at Mystery Vortex 3 last year. Granted, Zack didn't have the title back then, but I don't think they're going to do another title change so soon and having Hero win and then lose the title shot immediately doesn't really help anybody. Sure it's kind of crazy that a guy who's been in PWG for as long as Hero has yet to win BOLA, but the goal of the tournament should be to elevate someone and he doesn't need it. Remember that Roddy hasn't won BOLA either, and he hadn't been champion despite being in the company for like ten years until ROH forced their hand and they needed to get the belt off O'Reilly. Cobb... maybe if he beats Trevor Lee in two weeks, but I have trouble seeing a guy that new to the company getting the BOLA win rub. Even Speedball had been on four shows before making the finals last year, even though his first win came the show before. The way I was looking at it is that there's a pretty small cross-section of people who are A) not brand new to PWG or close enough to it that they haven't won a match yet, B) haven't already won the tournament in the past (since there's never been a two-time winner yet), or C) haven't already lost to Sabre in PWG, because I really don't think the person who wins the tournament will go on to win the title (at least not with the shot they get from winning BOLA). Cobb will be one if he wins against Trevor, but otherwise the list is Tommy End, Sami Callihan, Mark Andrews, Matt Sydal, Will Ospreay, and Liger. Tommy's heavily rumored to be signed by WWE and BOLA weekend will probably be his last shows with the company, and I seriously doubt they'll fly Liger back in for a title match outside of the context of BOLA. Of the remaining four, I think Ospreay makes the most sense as he made it to the semifinals last year.
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Jul 16, 2016 03:51
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I think there's a need to get the belt off Sabre if he's signed with WWE, and if he has, Hero's a stable guy the crowd loves whom we know can have a great match with Sabre. Plus he's never won BOLA, and they've been wrestling each other everywhere with Hero sometimes winning. I think my issue with Ospreay winning is his body's in rough shape and he has his NJPW commitments, plus his time in the UK. The title shot means they could slot Ospreay right into the main event whenever he's available again, and we haven't heard anything concrete about Sabre signing the way stuff has been reported about guys like Ibushi yet. He's pretty in demand in both the UK and stateside right now, and WWE is never going to be the best environment for him to succeed on several levels even if HHH clearly likes him. Obviously a lot can change between now and September, if we know for sure Zack is signing then the entire calculus changes but I'm currently operating under the assumption that he'll be holding the PWG title for a while.
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Jul 16, 2016 05:26
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Chris James 2 posted:Book Broken Matt Hardy and give him belts and live microphones Starts every promo with "I KNEW YOU'D COME" I have no idea what a Chuck Taylor/Drew Galloway tag team would even look like so kudos to Gabe for putting them together because I guess I'm mildly curious to see how they wrestle as a team.
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Jul 17, 2016 03:16
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Gresham would make a lot of sense for the Catch Point stable, lol at Dickinson being in it though
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Jul 18, 2016 01:01
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Naylor has a shoot interview series with Highspots and does commentary for at least a couple different indies. I imagine he would still have to have a day job though. No idea how he manages to find the time to consume that much wrestling on top of all that.
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Jul 18, 2016 06:49
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Plus Ospreay/Fenix on N1 and Riddle/O'Reilly on N2. We can also draw from the trios announcement that Ricochet, Sydal, and Cole's matches are all on Night One.
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Jul 19, 2016 01:10
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Really glad that Ospreay is facing somebody other than the other British guys for his first round match, kinda bummed we'll only get one singles match out of Fenix on the weekend. So who are Fenix and Pentagon gonna face in the pre-intermission tag on Night Two?
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Jul 19, 2016 08:31
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(crashes into thread, out of breath) LIGER/HERO
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Jul 19, 2016 20:21
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Jesus, I fall asleep for like 90 minutes... Looks like all we're missing is the pre-intermission tag on Night 1 now. Night 1: Matt Sydal vs. John Hennigan Marty Scurll vs. Pentagon Jr. Ricochet vs. Jeff Cobb Fenix vs. Will Ospreay Tommy End vs. Zack Sabre Jr. Chris Hero vs. Jushin Liger Dalton Castle and the Boys vs. The Young Bucks and Adam Cole Night 2: Mark Andrews vs. Pete Dunne Dalton Castle vs. Jack Gallagher Cedric Alexander vs. Mark Haskins Pentagon Jr. and Fenix vs. Tommy End and Chris Hero Kamaitachi vs. Trevor Lee Cody Rhodes vs. Sami Callihan Matt Riddle vs. Kyle O'Reilly Ricochet, Matt Sydal, and Will Ospreay vs. the Young Bucks and Adam Cole Honestly, I love Dalton Castle but considering all the talent in the building for the weekend putting him and his valets in one of the trios matches seems like kind of a waste. The_Rob posted:Is Adam Cole still scheduled for 13? They didn't say he's pulling out, although this might tip the outcome of his match with Tommy now. Grozz Nuy fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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Jul 21, 2016 02:19
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Looking at those matches and I think Dunne makes the most sense in the Marty Scurll 'newcomer to go surprisingly deep in the tournament' role this time. I think Cody might advance too but I'm not as certain on that because PWG books Callihan fairly strong for a midcard guy. Just realized that this is going to be a completely comical number of dudes trying to sell t-shirts in the ring before the show/at intermission now. Beef Jerky Robot posted:Tommy End vs ZSJ, sorry grozz Zack could still lose that match, especially if somebody turns and starts loving with him throughout the weekend like Roddy did to Kyle in 2014. Let me have this, drat it. Grozz Nuy fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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Jul 21, 2016 02:27
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Do they take ideas from the staff when booking cards? I imagine BOLA in particular is so complicated politically that it would be difficult.
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Jul 21, 2016 03:04
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Super No Vacancy posted:was cedric booked for king of trios Yup, so he's either leaving Chikara in the lurch or the CWC team is losing early, because his first round BOLA match isn't until Saturday so he could fly in then. Just checked and Chikara posted this after PWG's announcement: https://twitter.com/CHIKARApro/status/755945562508238848 So he's working both shows, somehow. Either losing early in Chikara and working Saturday and Sunday in PWG or losing early in BOLA and missing the big multi-man tags on N3. Grozz Nuy fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Jul 21, 2016 |
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Jul 21, 2016 03:34
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Gargano getting a legit WWE deal probably means Candice will retire sooner rather than later too
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Jul 21, 2016 22:13
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70 bucks per night for BOLA, drat Hopefully that's just for the weekend because of the all the big names they're booking and not the regular price going forward
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Jul 22, 2016 05:55
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I mean, on some level they'd be stupid to not charge as much as they can get away with until tickets stop selling out in three minutes every show.
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Jul 22, 2016 09:15
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And Evolve books good talent but the atmosphere at their shows still sucks rear end outside of Mania weekend
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Jul 24, 2016 05:40
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oatgan posted:which is why its going to be cool when ciampa wins the belt in a surprise and the tournament is for the title More second-rate indies biting PWG storylines, yawn
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Jul 24, 2016 08:05
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Going to try for BOLA tix, anything I should know? I remember reading last year their ticket site is awful and crashed when people rushed it Be on the site ready to hit refresh right at 8 PM, tickets will be gone in five minutes or less once it stops crashing from a million people loading it at once. Make sure you have your Paypal password memorized so you can check out as fast as possible. Pray if you believe in prayer.
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Jul 29, 2016 03:37
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Big ups to NQQ for helping me and his brother get tickets thanks to all the other jokers from last year's crew skipping out And yeah, people who can't go or bought too many tickets are pretty cool about selling them for face value rather than jacking their asking price way up. I recommend following Excalibur on Twitter if you're not already, he'll retweet people trying to resell tickets to shows all the time.
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Jul 29, 2016 04:08
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I've never been to Chicago, if the cards for that weekend are good enough and I have enough vacation time left at work I might use that as an excuse to finally visit. I got sunburnt for the first time in years on Sunday last year, but that's partially because we spent a few hours walking around the horrifying tourist trap that is Venice Beach beforehand.
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Jul 29, 2016 04:50
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This is a longshot but I'm just going to put it on record so I look smart if it happens: I have a gut feeling that Super Dragon returns tonight and kicks Roddy out of Mt. Rushmore.
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Jul 30, 2016 03:07
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I'll write in more detail when I get home but best top-to-bottom PWG show of 2016 by far, definitely worth getting on DVD
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Jul 30, 2016 08:05
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The_Rob posted:All I want to say is O'Reily and ZSJ are legit the best and I love wrestling. I could probably watch them wrestle 100 times and not get bored, they're really perfect rivals for each other. I mean, O'Reilly can have a great match with a broom but Zack really shines when there's somebody who can go toe-to-toe on the mat with him. Full results: Adam Cole def. Brian Cage (Only real dud of the night, it wasn't bad it was just aggressively mediocre. Really wish Tommy had been able to make this show) Roderick Strong def. Timothy Thatcher (Very good, expected Roddy to put a guy over on his way out but now knowing how the show ended it makes more sense) Jeff Cobb def. Trevor Lee (Also really good, probably would have given it an HM if it hadn't dragged as much in the beginning. Expected the crowd to pop more for Cobb's first win, but I guess he didn't start with a long losing streak like most debuts do) Chuck Taylor def. Trent? (Kind of turned into a pseudo-Guerrilla Warfare match? There was a ladder and several thumbtack bumps involved, it was unexpectedly gnarly but good) Marty Scurll def. Sami Callihan (Heavy on comedy stuff but surprisingly good, best match Sami's had in PWG since coming back by a wide margin) Young Bucks def. Death By Elbow to retain the PWG World Tag Team Championships (Hero goaded the Bucks into putting the titles on the line before the match and there were a couple times near the end of the match I thought it was really going to happen. Great match) Zack Sabre Jr. def. Kyle O'Reilly to retain the PWG World Championship (Outstanding, and the crowd got insanely hot for it. Goddamn I'm glad Kyle's back in Reseda.) Zack Sabre Jr. def. Roderick Strong to retain the PWG World Championship After the main event Kyle and Zack did the typical grand gesture of respect for each other, then Roddy ran in and attacked them both, got the mic and said he wasn't going to wait for his title rematch, he was taking it right now. He gave Zack the Gibson driver and the fireman's carry gutbuster but he kicked out, Zack didn't get much offense in but put Roddy in a couple pinning combinations. The Bucks ran in and tried to help but Zack kept kicking out, then Scurll ran in and helped Kyle clear them out. Cole came out and he and Roddy beat Zack down more, but he kicked out again, cleared Cole out of the ring, and reversed another Roddy move into a submission and tapped him out. Angelo declared him still PWG Champion again, then Roddy got the mic and said 'for now.' The crowd by now knows he's leaving (a decent section started a chant after his match with Thatcher earlier in the show), so everybody's chanting thank you at him, he pauses for a bit and then talks about how he's been in PWG for 11 years and made a lot of great memories and great friends, but the most important thing PWG gave him was meeting his fiance (she was on the stage and very emotional, it was sweet). Roddy talks about how he made the decision 2 years ago to make big changes to how he performed as a wrestler and how it meant so much to him that PWG gave him the platform for it and that the fans went along for the ride so completely. He invites the Bucks and Cole back out to the ring, they come out and talk to each other in a huddle then fake like they're going to attack him but then the four of them have a group hug instead. Roddy asks everyone else from the locker room to come out and thanks the promotion and crew and everyone who stepped in the ring with him and gave 100%, and says to them and all the fans 'I love every one of you, I never hated you.' It was a really heartwarming farewell all around, hopefully it makes the DVD.
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https://twitter.com/DavidShoemaker/status/759234575344267264 PWG article coming soon to the Ringer? At least it'll be after BOLA tickets went on sale so they won't be even more difficult to get.
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Jul 31, 2016 02:49
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Imagine fronting like a 16 man tournament with Silas Young in it would be better than BOLA
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Aug 5, 2016 03:10
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Super No Vacancy posted:i know you quinoa types out in reseda are unfamiliar with 'heels' but theyre actually very fun to watch I've seen plenty of Silas Young and if that's your definition of fun, I can see why you'd settle for that middling product you're getting out there
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Aug 5, 2016 04:21
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Chris James 2 posted:There's a good chance at least one LU guy is in that tournament and I'm buying tickets if it's Pentagon AAW books at least a couple LU guys for practically every show they run these days, I don't think you have anything to worry about
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Aug 5, 2016 05:08
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I think Cody said he's already booked up through the end of the year, but of course it's possible he knew this tournament was happening before they announced it and signed on already. I don't know if Cedric's announced any dates beyond the immediate future but I wouldn't count on him being available. King of Pro Wrestling is October 10th so Elgin will probably be in Japan.
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Aug 5, 2016 06:07
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Was that the promotion that co-organized the Bustin' for Autism show that del Rio no showed?
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Aug 5, 2016 20:53
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Ryback sucks and I would prefer that he not wrestle on shows that I would otherwise want to watch
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Aug 5, 2016 21:55
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Danny LaFever posted:Bad conclusion to come to. I feel pretty good about it actually
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Aug 6, 2016 04:13
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They kicked the poo poo out of each other, it was brutal. Zack was going nuts with those head stomps all match.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:49
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Really hope the Roddy farewell speech makes the DVD, since it probably won't ship until after he 'unexpectedly' shows up in the crowd at Takeover: Brooklyn II
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Aug 9, 2016 06:59
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It's a shame Kevin Steen won't be around to commentate that match considering how much glee he gets from pointing out what a big Ryback fan AR Fox is
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Aug 9, 2016 18:30
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MassRafTer posted:He'll be petitioning for his opponent to make the same amount. I'm just waiting for the inevitable to happen and him ending up in TNA and getting paid on time while the people lower on the card get jerked around, proving he was full of poo poo all along
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oatgan posted:I'm gonna be at all of them, hmu Voluntarily watching two Chikara shows? Oh wait somebody else already made that joke
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He'll probably try to hold the promoter up for more money on the day of the show and generally be an unprofessional rear end in a top hat
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Aug 12, 2016 04:26
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