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For what it's worth, the prevailing opinions in my DMs have been a mix of "gently caress Earl Cooter" (the local promoter that WWN uses), "this is not Progress's fault at all," and "LOL of course Gabe yelled at you, he yells at everyone." I have no problem admitting that the initial tweet w/ the occupancy certificate read simultaneously too alarmist and snarky, though.
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Chris James 2 posted:Apparently the rest of the crew have been in a car rental place overnight with no food, and are stranded in New York with no way to get to Boston
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Aug 13, 2017 15:21
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oatgan posted:this story gets dumber every single day
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Sep 25, 2017 23:18
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oatgan posted:jealous at how much cooler aarons phonecall with gabe was?
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Sep 26, 2017 00:49
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Super No Vacancy posted:gabe is wiping his tweets ostensibly to purge all floslam mentions lol
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Sep 26, 2017 21:23
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Testekill posted:Gabe takes after the man who taught him everything he knew.
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Sep 27, 2017 18:01
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abraham linksys posted:dick justice just murdered a camerman live on powerbomb.tv, what a finish Saturday's show (which goes up on Beyond Demand sometime Monday) was quite good. Elgin-Janela, Gresham-Watts, and Hit Squad-H8 Club were the standouts, with the tag being like it was in a time warp. It was everything that you would have wanted it to be in 2002, up to and including not just the wall spot but chairs to the head of both Gage and Hatred. It probably would have been just as good without the chairs to the head, as the intensity from the promotional wars and other bullshit of 15 years ago was all there. Gresham was quite possibly the smoothest worker on the show, Big Mike include, and he and Stokely are a tremendous act live. Elgin-Janela was pretty much the exact match you'd expect on paper, in a good way. Only match I thought was an outright disappointment was Stone-Silver. It was fine, but definitely the least of the last week's Johnny Silver matches. Stone has been a bit rote/samey in the various indie matches I've seen of him lately, feels like he needs to change something up. For anyone else from NYC who wants to go to any future shows at GameChangerWorld, the ride to and from Howell was fine as long as you understand the quirks of of the NJ Transit bus system. Walk to and from the venue is just a few minutes from the nearest stop (Route 9/Strickland), though you ARE walking down the side of Route 9 with no sidewalk for most of the way over.
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Oct 30, 2017 06:05
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oatgan posted:they ran a show at the compound yesterday I think they'll be ok They also have that Philly venue. That sucks if they're losing Howell, though, I was hoping to head out there more in 2018.
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Jan 1, 2018 20:51
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Any of y'all going to House of Glory on Saturday in Queens? Red vs. Low-Ki! in 2018!
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Jan 30, 2018 04:57
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achillesforever6 posted:Sucks now that Joey is trying to ship a Shlak redemption story to promoters/indy writers apparently. gently caress this boys in the back culture that allows nazis/rapists into companies/bookings. Shlak is really beyond defending at this point and I'm guessing that will take hold more widely within wrestling after the latest thing. Even if someone wants to play devil's advocate (and I do get the vibe that he was doing the LGBT show to try to get "the real Shlak" or whatever in front of people), he is still completely unable to do anything other than trip over himself with this stuff. That said, I do believe that those were defending him generally did so because they genuinely believe that he's not (currently) a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer as opposed to not caring about it or agreeing with views like that.
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Jun 25, 2018 03:36
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Gumball Gumption posted:He's still working a tag team named domestic violence in an attempt to be edgy. Even if he's not a nazi (he's a nazi) he has a lovely boys club attitude that makes wrestling uncomfortable for everyone but a small group of people. Re: the posts about the photo, I get the impression that, in general, there is some confusion about how old it is because a lot of people don't realize that he's almost 40. He got a VERY late start in wrestling. That's not a defense, just an assessment of something that I think probably muddied up the situation.
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Jun 25, 2018 05:21
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Skunkrocker posted:SCI and SUP are finally done and behind us, it was a great year and I enjoyed myself immensely. Thanks Sub Rosa for the compliment, buy wrestling chocolate from them! Congrats to Joey Lynch, 2018 SCI Champion!
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Aug 11, 2018 23:39
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Why are some of you pretending that the MSG show isn't part of a long wrestling weekend, the biggest of the year?
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Aug 13, 2018 00:39
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abraham linksys posted:yes, finally, i can see the same wrestlers from a further distance away, and pay more money for it!
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Aug 13, 2018 07:43
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KungFu Grip posted:i think gcw is on powerbomb tv
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Aug 15, 2018 05:13
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abraham linksys posted:btw i've been to just about every major promotion that runs nyc - wwe, nxt, roh, evolve, progress - and i've never seen a crowd that was so majority-white-dude, and so lovely, as gcw's tonight. made me very glad i did not invite any friends along, there were just some awful loving people in that room, christ. even if progress's everyone's welcome shtick might seem a bit half-assed at times, i really loving appreciate what they manage to do, and what even evolve manages to do by just being careful how they present the product, versus gcw tonight. eesh. I didn't think the crowd was markedly less diverse than most shows I've been to lately. MLW was VERY heavy white male to the point that it shocked me.
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Aug 18, 2018 22:59
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SalTheBard posted:That is loving awesome. Where can I watch GCW? I fell in love with Joey Janella at All In and want to see more of his stuff. DVD/Blu-Ray/Download: SmartMarkVideo.com
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Sep 11, 2018 04:15
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Cory Lidle posted:Going to guess the collective involves at minimum: GCW, Beyond, NOVA and CHIKARA.
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Sep 24, 2018 06:48
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rovert posted:Thought it was a lock they were running La Boom Mania weekend. Once they announce, I should probably use that as an opportunity to the story behind the story, because there's some stuff going on here that isn't even that well known within wrestling.
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Sep 25, 2018 05:46
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coconono posted:Kaiju is cool but I can live without ever seeing another Evolve-adjacent show ever again.
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Sep 25, 2018 20:34
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Cory Lidle posted:Asbury Park could be (very generously) considered North Jersey but that would not be in range of Mania to do the required numbers. The big problem right now is that a Spring Break-suitable venue is VERY hard to come by. They drew ~2,000 this year and should expect to do more for 2018. * The only wrestling venue in NYC proper that could even barely match last year is the Hammerstein Ballroom, which is drastically overpriced, with rent in the $50,000 range or higher and a number of other contractual and union hurdles that make the cost even higher. Only Manhattan Center Studios would be allowed to shoot the show, there would be an origination fee, and only Manhattan Center staff would be allowed to sell merchandise. * Elmcor Center is, while way too small for Spring Break, the biggest indie venue in NYC proper and also a terrible place to run. Hard to get to if you don't have a car and aren't by the 7 train, shenanigans with questions about the legal capacity and what they tell promoters it is, busted ventilation, leaks everywhere, the price hikes on water & food during #heatgate, no alcohol whatsoever (it's a community center/drug rehab, somehow), etc. * The Rahway Rec Center in NJ lacks air conditioning—which shouldn't be a huge issue in April, knock on wood—but is otherwise a decent size gym...that would still be too small for Spring Break (you can maybe fit 1,500 people in with standing room). It's not super close to NYC, but it's only a few blocks from the commuter train station in Rahway, so there are far worse options for whoever runs there. * Melrose Ballroom is a cool venue and I'm glad that it looks to be in regular rotation, but it's way too small for Spring Break. You can't put more than 700 people in there, which is about what Lost in NY did, but there are different ways to configure it. MLW was more crowded on the floor, but with much of the balcony closed off for production and less of the floor open because they moved the stage close to the ring to have an entrance ramp. (They probably drew in the 450 range.) * None of the other wrestling-friendly club type spaces are big enough, either, which is why it wasn't exactly surprising that, even setting aside potential Axxess & NXT UK-related issues, PROGRESS won't be at La Boom. (They need a space that can hold at least 1,000 people.) If GCW can't find their own venue for Spring Break, then I do wonder if they could make a deal for the same hotel ballroom that WrestleCon is using... EDIT: I drafted most of this last night and forgot to post it until now. Well, Highspots is saying that not only is Rev Pro in the ballroom, but so is the Joey Ryan show. davidbix fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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EugeneJ posted:New Japan ran Basketball City in Manhattan when they partnered with JAPW for that 2011 tour: abraham linksys posted:as EugeneJ noted, they're running Spring Break at 8pm this year, according to GCW's tweet the other day
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Sep 28, 2018 20:16
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Cavauro posted:I recently found out that the announcer in question was undoubtedly a pimp with irrefutable proof on the matter.
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Oct 1, 2018 21:24
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exploded mummy posted:take cav with a large grain of salt
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Oct 2, 2018 00:38
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Vertigo Ambrosia posted:
But outside of going to the live shows in NYC, where they benefit from the commission and other expenses limiting the number of superindie type shows, and whatever other markets where they may be in a similar situation (are there any strong Detroit indies right now?), what IS the identity and pull of Evolve? Grapplefuck is long dead. ZSJ survived it and thrived, but he's gone now, as are Keith Lee and Matt Riddle, who then carried the company with him. The actual in-ring product isn't promoted as a WWE feeder, so it's not "the stars of tomorrow." Maybe it was about to be The Workrate Joey Janela Promotion, but Joey's injury obviously killed that.
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Oct 4, 2018 17:28
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achillesforever6 posted:But then that would just lead to Evolve booking his Nazi pal or Teddy Hart
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Oct 7, 2018 00:29
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shiksa posted:I'm really interested in going to that Chicago mlw show, seeing acey baby live definitely helps.
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Oct 15, 2018 04:28
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Phenix Rising posted:Is Hijo de LA Park any good? His match with Yuta from War Games was kind of a stinker.
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Oct 15, 2018 04:52
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RealFoxy posted:Gauge's felony is the dumbest of all time for multiple reasons, but it's still funny that people think he's some kind of murderous thug when all he did was politely ask for money in a bank. He was an a desperate opiate addict. That type of robbery is generally perpetrated by addicts who get desperate. Being that Nick Gage is: 1. Trying to commit himself to extended sobriety and 2. Universally considered a good dude, just one with problems he's working hard to overcome, it's clear that those who are super negative about him are either concern trolling or have antiquated views about addiction.
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Oct 20, 2018 22:58
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RealFoxy posted:I've never directly interacted with Nick but I know a lot of people who worked directly with him who never said a bad thing about him, and talk about how easy it is to work with him both before and after his incident. The guy is living up his gimmick and has a reputation for being a death match guy, but I've heard so much worse about guys you'd never expect but absolutely nothing negative about Nick. He should be remembered for throwing the bird while literally dying being choppered out of Tournament of Death and not for his lapse in judgement and desperation, Wish the best for him mdk RealFoxy posted:He handed a bank teller a robbery note saying he had a gun and "Would loving shoot her if he didn't get the money" and walked out, that's all there was to it besides walking in without anything covering his face. I believe it was Chuck Taylor laughing at him for wearing more to cover himself to the ring than he did to rob a bank, but there was no weapons or hostages or anything going on but the teller he went to was traumatized and quit her job.
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Oct 21, 2018 04:32
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STAC Goat posted:I don't have strong opinions about Nick Gage personally at all but this does seem like its kind of glossed over. Like, whether he had a gun or not or meant it or not, threatening the life of someone is still a pretty hosed up thing that can (and apparently did) do real damage to an innocent person. As for his work, he's usually not a death match guy anymore. Mainly a brawler. I saw him have two really solid matches live at the SCI in August with no juice, few gimmicks, and no swearing. His match with Timothy Thatcher at Bloodsport, which I also saw live, was a delightful clash of styles, as well, for example.
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Oct 22, 2018 02:42
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exploded mummy posted:Bix, I'm going to disagree with you. Framing something as "politely asking" for money in a bank robbery while neglecting to mention the fact that the polite request was really a threat of lethal violence is pretty much textbook glossing over.
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Oct 22, 2018 03:00
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I've been told that the story is bullshit. Just slower editing than usual.
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Oct 23, 2018 04:50
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Aesop Poprock posted:Bix one of my best friends went to prison for 4 years because he attempted to rob a convenience store because of an opiod addiction that ended up causing him to lose his job. He's lucky he has a job now cause he found a guy who was forgiving and understanding but it's not really a good look to literally blend a felony into your gimmick if you're actually repentant. I know it's wrestling so the rules are kind of different but you're contradicting your point with those two paragraphs
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Oct 23, 2018 17:48
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coconono posted:pro wrestler
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Oct 24, 2018 04:07
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I'm still not sure if I trust the Rajahs of the world to be owning the #MeToo beat, but...there's no way they'd run that unless they knew for a 100% fact that it was true, right? "They" meaning a site like Rajah, not the royal they.
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Nov 29, 2018 06:01
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Is he gonna demand that none of them work for other Chicagoland indies, too?
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Dec 22, 2018 19:29
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rovert posted:As a opposed to what?
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Why do CZW promotional posters/slicks no longer say what town in NJ they're in? This has been going on for a while.
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