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e: Live-posting starts here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3776228&perpage=40&pagenumber=5#post461416321 Pick Order 1. Toronto Maple Leafs — Auston 20:16 2. Winnipeg Jets — Patrik Laine 3. Columbus Blue Jackets — Pierre-Luc Dubois 4. Edmonton Oilers — Jesse Puljujarvi 5. Vancouver Canucks — Olli Juolevi 6. Calgary Flames — Matthew Tkachuk 7. Arizona Coyotes — Clayton Keller 8. Buffalo Sabres — Alex Nylander 9. Montreal Canadiens — Mikhail Sergachyev 10. Colorado Avalanche — Tyson Jost 11. Ottawa Senators (from New Jersey Devils - pick swap) — Logan Brown 12. New Jersey Devils (from Ottawa Senators - pick swap) — Michael McCleod 13. Carolina Hurricanes — Jake Bean 14. Boston Bruins — Charlie McAvoy 15. Minnesota Wild — Luke Kunin 16. Arizona Coyotes (from Detroit Red Wings - Datsyuk trade) — Jakub Chychrun 17. Nashville Predators — Dante Fabbro 18. Winnipeg Jets (from Philadelphia Flyers - pick swap) — Logan Stanley 19. New York Islanders — Kieffer Bellows 20. Detroit Red Wings ( from NY Rangers - Yandle trade, via Arizona Coyotes - Datsyuk trade) — Dennis Cholowski 21. Carolina Hurricanes (from LA Kings - Sekera trade) — Julien Gauthier 22. Philadelphia Flyers (from Chicago Blackhawks - Ladd trade via Winnipeg Jets - pick swap) — German Rubtsov 23. Florida Panthers — Henrik Borgstrom 24. Anaheim Ducks — Max Jones 25. Dallas Stars — Riley Tufte 26. St Louis Blues (from Washington Capitals - pick swap) — Tage Thompson 27. Tampa Bay Lightning — Brett Howden 28. Washington Capitals (from St. Louis Blues - pick swap) — Lucas Johansson 29. Boston Bruins (from San Jose Sharks - Jones trade) — Trent Frederic 30. Anaheim Ducks (from Pittsburgh Penguins - Kessel trade, via Toronto Maples Leafs - Andersen trade) — Sam STEEL TRADES D1 Montreal gets: Andrew Shaw, WSH 2017 2nd, WSH 2018 2nd Washington gets: Lars Eller Chicago gets: #39, #45 Calgary gets:Brian Elliott St Louis gets: #35; Conditional 2018 3rd New Jersey gets: #12, #80 Ottawa gets: #11 Detroit gets: #20, #53, Joe Vitale Arizona gets: #16, Pavel Datsyuk Philadelphia gets: #22, #36 Winnipeg gets: #18, #79 St Louis gets: #26 Washington gets: #28, 87 TRADES D2 That I care to mention Buffalo gets: Dmitri Kulikov, #33 Florida gets: Mark Pysyk, #38, #89 New Jersey gets: Beau Bennett Pittsburgh gets: #77 LA gets: Jack Campbell Dallas gets: Nick Ebert  It's that time of year where we all pull up our badly stuffed computer chairs, flick on our monitors or phones and use our limited knowledge to berate each others about the NHL readiness of awkward teenagers! Yes, that's right it's almost time for the 2016 NHL ENTRY DRAFT taking place June 24-25, 2016 in Buffalo, NY! So what's happening this year? Well, as you may or may not have heard the 1st overall pick belongs to the self-described Centre of the Hockey Universe Toronto Maple Leafs having won the first of the three anti-Oilers pick lotteries held last month. Somehow, no one is really all that upset with this because the Leafs have been the NHL's punchline for the last decade and people are almost happy to see something go right for them now that they seem to be competently run. This feeling will fade once the TSN YOUNG BUDS specials start airing on a biweekly basis. The Jets and Blue Jackets will pick 2nd and 3rd respectively after winning the other two draft lotteries. No one has any strong feelings about either of these franchises, so sure why not? Who are the top prospects this year and why have I never seen them play outside the WJC? The first three picks this year are as close to locks as you can possibly get. They are Auston Matthews, Patrik Laine and Jesse Puljujärvi and they'll be selected in that order and there's no real question about that. All three of them play in Europe, so despite what people may tell you no one has actually seen them play live outside of international tournaments. Auston Matthews - C - 6'2" - 195lbs - Shoots Left  Effective, efficient and completely boring. Switzerland was a good choice. A half-Mexican, California born, Arizona raised childhood Coyotes fan currently plying his trade in Zurich, Switzerland. Needless to say, he's breaking a great deal of new ground for the NHL here. Continually labelled as an example of the success of southern NHL expansion, he's going to Toronto so loses all of his worthwhile marketability. He's a classic two-way centre. Good at everything, bad at nothing he's entirely unflashy but the type of player cup winners are built around. He set a bunch of scoring records with the USNTDP before eschewing both college and junior to sign a contract with Zurich in where he was the best player in the league. He's drat good and everything you want in a franchise centre, but whatever he does for the next decade is going to be analyzed in intense detail because of the market he's going to so fingers crossed he's allergic to hot dogs. He's also Toews level uninteresting. I'll leave you with the words of the drunk guy I overhead in the Thai restaurant to sum up how Matthews' time in Toronto will go: 'Ya hear about tha fuckin' Leafs getta that first overall pick eh? Like when we got Wendel Fuckin' Clark man, that guy could totally beat the poo poo outta like Surley and Memmeeso and them guys. That was hockey. Fuckin' Leafs man. Patrik Laine - LW/RW - 6'4" - 210lbs - Shoot Right  After glancing at a January weather report for Winnipeg, Patrik sets to work on a new career A bit of an after thought at the beginning of the year, he's established himself as a can't miss player and the most promising European prospect since Alex Ovechkin (who incidentally he is basically a carbon copy of stylistically). Big, strong and with a booming shot, he's a flashy attacking winger who's worth the price of admission alone. As punishment for not being a robot, he gets to spend his youth in Canada's Detroit. He won the Finnish league playoff MVP despite just turning 18 a month ago, can currently be found breaking Jagr's u-18 points record at the WHC, and doing rad poo poo. Jesse Puljujärvi - RW - 6'3" - 200lbs - Shoots Right  No, no! Not me, friends. He's talking about himself. But thanks for looking! The Other Guys  Consensus rankings per The Leafs Nation. Let's all continue to have a hearty chuckle at McKeen's having Michael McLeod at #3 TV Options The first round will air on Sportsnet (don't watch this channel) and NBC Sport Network (the one with the good analysts) on Friday, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:00 p.m. EST. Things will actually start happening a good 20 minutes later though, be prepared for a 3-4 hour night if you wanna watch all 30 picks. The second round to seventh rounds will be live streamed on NHL.com on Saturday, June 25, 2016. Somebody fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jordan7hm posted:Also, I asked this elsewhere but if anyone knows where I can grab old draft predictions from scouting services or magazines, I'd be appreciative. I'm looking for the top 30s for 2005-2009. Have TSN and CSS. If don't mind paying a few bucks a pop, THN sells digital copies of their draft primer dating back about a decade. https://secure.thehockeynews.com/online-store/?cat=S&utm_source=index_page&utm_medium=redirect&utm_campaign=special_issues
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Pronman's top-100 prospect writeups is apparently available on the ABC site without the need for the ESPN insider paywall. http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/top-100-prospects-2016-nhl-draft/story?id=39091742
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Gunjin posted:Are there any high risk, high reward Russians that GMs will be scared enough of to drop to the Capitals at 26th? Sounds like Vitaly Abramov to me! A tiny, dangly Russian winger playing in Gatineau. He's quick, shifty and kind of a rat. Like a lot of high scoring juniors, defence is largely a mystery to him but with the right coaching he could be a Maxim Afinogenov type. Not quite as magical hands and feet, but that sorta player. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 01:21 on May 17, 2016 |
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yellowcar posted:Worse! He'd be playing for the Leafs! McDavid signed with the Oilers, if that can happen, anything can.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I just noticed the amount of kids slated to go in the first round who are sons of guys who played in the NHL. Bellows, Chychrun, Brown, Nylander, Tkachuk. Most of those guys dads' were even pretty good at one point or another! It's not at all unusual and a fairly well researched phenomenon. You have a thousand times higher chance of becoming an NFL player than the background population if you father also played in the NFL. I haven't seen the numbers for the NHL, but we can safely assume they're comparable. There's a lot of reasons for this, but the most basic are simply with a father who is a pro athlete, a child has the money and acknowledgement of pursuing pro sports as a career option. A father who played in the NHL is much more likely to enroll their son in the same sport starting at a young age and much less likely to tell them to focus on a real profession later on. Opportunity is also a big one, as a pro father will add legitimacy to a kid and open doors to tryouts and teams that might otherwise be closed to them. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 25, 2016 |
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whatis posted:i'm really interested to see who gets drafted first: pierre luc dubois or tkachuk. no idea who i like more right now, but they both look really good Personally, I'd still lean towards Tkachuk. There's no question he plays on perhaps the best junior line of the last 20ish years, but I find it frustrating when people use that as a knock against him. He's there for a reason, and just put up a stellar showing in the OHL playoffs and memorial cup. I can't find any real downsides to his game. Is he going to be a world class top line player? I'd wager not, but I've compared him to Brandon Saad in the past and that's still the player I see most of the time. He's already a polished and alert cycle player, and that's generally something that takes a few years of pro hockey to develop properly. His positioning in the offensive zone is great, and his hands and pivots are excellent. Most of all, he's a smart player. He's not nutso level talented and creative like Marner, but he keeps up with him by making the right decision pretty much all the time. He's the type of guy who doesn't feel the need to hold onto the puck in the attacking zone or dangle through guys (although he can and does). He'll one touch it off his stick to a teammate if they're in a better position, and you know that pass is getting through. Honestly, I think he could step in and contribute in pretty much any NHL bottom six next year. Preferably you want him back in the CHL at least another year, but he's already a serviceable placeholder offensively and rapidly improving defensively. He's no slouch from the physical department although I find it weird when people call him a power forward or anything like that - strength isn't his game. He's more like Crosby in that he's strong, and has a reputation as a playmaker but isn't your classic outmuscle guys or blow them up type. I use that comparison very lightly, as obviously he isn't in the same stratosphere as Sid but think that style of play from the hashmarks down. Dubios just isn't that same level of useful in my eyes. His defensive game is great, maybe already only slightly below the average bottom six NHLer. He can tie guys up on the back check, loves to throw that extra little shove in front of the net and just generally knows how to neutralize the opposition. Think Kesler in terms of defensive playstyle (a bit of a jerk but still good at tying guys up, but perhaps lacking in defensive positioning). Then again, I feel like scouts get a little too excited about that. He'll be an interesting test case for the idea that offence gets you to the NHL and defence keeps you there, because I don't see a guy who really stands out offensively. He's good, but I don't feel like he's any more impressive than someone like James Sheppard at the same age. They were both tall and defensively responsible players who had a physical element to their game and put up good draft seasons offensively in the Q. I'm not saying they're carbon copies of each other, but I sorta feel like the same offensive limitations are possible with Dubois. I could see him settling into a Manny Malhotra type career, not that there's anything wrong with that but not what a team intent on rebuilding needs. He can and will play in the NHL next year, but I'm not sure he'll ever progress to the point where he's a go to #1 or #2 centre. He bobbles the puck a lot. I don't know how much I want to use that as a knock against him, but I've always felt that being able to cleanly receive a pass and move it off your stick in one motion is a key element to an offensive game in the NHL. I can't think of a single PPG scorer in the league that isn't top notch at catching the puck without looking down or making a mistake. He's good when he has it under control, but it always takes that extra second and it concerns me. He'll be a centre in the NHL though, and those defensive responsibilities are hard to teach. That's just my eye test view of them. I normalize CHL prospect scoring and adjust for league and team goals each year, and both Tkachuk and Dubois score very well (slight edge to Tkachuk). Tkachuk contributed offense to his team at about the same rate at Matt Barzal last year, Dubios was a notch below comparing to Anthony Beauvillier and Evgeny Svechnikov. Both are upper half of the first round level offensive contributors at the moment. TL;DR I prefer Tkachuk, but I have a bias towards offense over defence. You can't go wrong with either, I think Tkachuk is more likely to be a top line forward. I am a nerd.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:poo poo, if I could be guaranteed a Brandon Saad quality forward with a top 10 pick, I'd go for that, espesically with the Flames picking where they are. No pick is a guarantee, I use Saad as a stylistic comparison nothing more. Though imperfect, the Projection Project has Tkachuk at around a 75-80% chance of being a regular NHLer with around a 66% chance of being a first liner if he does. Those are good numbers (although likely inflated by him playing with Marner). Even rounding down 10-15% on each one gives you a safe bet at a quality NHLer. He's putting up 1st overall numbers. Dubois is still well a drat fine player, but lower across the board in terms of percentages. It's unlikely either will bust due to their high draft selection (which rarely fail to make the 200 game NHL mark in this day and age). quote:Here's a wholly unrelated question: who's the best goalie in this draft? Not highest ranked, because that frequently means gently caress all. Calgary could use another goalie prospect, though. The answer is unquestionably Carter Hart from Everett IMO. He was fantastic to start the year, but slowed down a bit maybe as it wore on. He was still good enough to be named the CHL goaltender of the year, which is fantastic for a draft eligible player. He's not a big guy at 6'1", but I'm not sure that matter so much. He's no shorter than Jake Allen and at 18 he'll grow. He's a quick guy, so it's not a major concern for me. Goalies are very, very difficult to project so it's essentially a crap shoot selecting one, but as goaltender prospects go he's a good one. I could see him sneaking into the late first round. Calgary have Mason McDonald and Jon Gillies in the system though. I don't think they should be wasting a high pick on a goaltender this year.
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May 30, 2016 16:41
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Hand Knit posted:I forget if this happened with the Sedins). It did. I was hoping Boston would do that with their picks, but I guess they wanted to give each guy their moment in the sun individually. quote:Like, is it possible that they hold off on picking someone at #30 because they feel like they can spend the night working out a trade for #31 (and, consequently, that player)? I really doubt the NHL would let them do that. They're trying to turn the first round into prime time drama viewing like the NBA or NFL draft, so finishing at 29 so the Leafs can work out a trade seems highly unlikely. With that said, knowing Dubas' reputation I imagine he'll just trade that first round pick for a 2nd and 4th or something. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 17:25 on May 30, 2016 |
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May 30, 2016 17:23
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Hand Knit posted:This is about the 30th and 31st picks. So Toronto would not choose whomever they had at #30 with the idea that they could either take him at #31 or trade that pick. There is no ending the first night early. Ah okay, that makes more sense. I was wondering why you were asking that question. I guess they could do that, but it seems needlessly complicated. Either way they're selecting a guy they value less than another first on the off chance they can spend the evening working out a better trade for the pick. It might work, but why not just trade the 29th on the draft floor? It's not like late first round picks fetch a high price unless they're part of a larger deal that are often finalized long before the pick actually takes place. Plus it's a little rough on the player. NHL entry level contracts are largely determined by draft position (although not set in stone like the NFL), and the difference between a 1st and 2nd round pick is tens of thousands of dollars in salary and bonuses. Losing out on that because the team that drafted you played a complicated game of trade chicken on draft day would be a bitter pill to swallow.
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May 30, 2016 17:43
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Hand Knit posted:Needless complication is the point of the exercise! You have two consecutive picks, with a day between them. What stupid poo poo could you get up to? Well, it doesn't really use the advantage of the day in between but assuming the Leafs have two players they value equally at 30 (as in they don't care which they select and don't feel a strong need to select both) they could sell the 30th overall pick as essentially advertising space for another team. The first round of the draft is aired nationally on CBC and NBCSN. I can't find TV ratings from last year's draft, but 1.5M canadians watched the draft lottery last month. The 2nd-7th rounds are streamed on NHL.com and on the NHL network. You can probably assume that less than 100,000 people watch it. That's a serious hit in terms of eyeballs. The Leafs don't need the extra advertising space, but would someone like the Carolina Hurricanes? In that way, the Leafs could refuse to trade the 31st (even though it's technically a worse pick) and force teams to pay more simply because the team would get to say their name on national TV again. It probably wouldn't be worth very much, but you never know. Schlesische posted:Oh my. Well I don't pay much heed to the LINEMATES argument, Gagner/Kane looks eerily similar to Tkachuk/Marner there.
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May 30, 2016 18:08
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whatis posted:buffalo is going to move up to 4th or 5th because tim murray is a god drat boss 5th is off the table unless a player like Sam Reinhart is coming back. The Canucks have been using "CANUCKS PICK FIFTH" as an advertising slogan for the last month and have a draft party planned. They aren't moving down. The 4th is very much in play, but the Oilers are looking for an established first pairing defenceman in return. Bogosian seems like the only player that would fit from the Sabres (Risto too but he's not moving), and I doubt Buffalo wants to part with him for futures. Both teams are in need of NHL ready defencemen, I seriously doubt a trade would make sense between them.
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whatis posted:everyone is looking for an established first line/first pairing something in exchange for their 1st rounder, but 1st rounders aren't worth that (especially when we're talking trading up/down 4 spots) so it doesn't matter Yeah well that's the asking price at the moment, and the 4th overall pick is hardly the same as the 16th pick that was moved for Reinhart last year. The Oilers can just select a player at 4th (likely Dubois or Tkachuk but Olli Juleovi if they want a D) if they don't get a good offer and go after a free agent defenceman. There's pressure on them to acquire a top pairing guy, but no immediate need to do so. Sabres aren't getting that pick for Josh Gorges and a 3rd. INSPECTAH DECK posted:What a lame 
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May 30, 2016 20:32
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Schlesische posted:What are the chances the Habs do something monumentally stupid like dangle Beaulieu and their 1st rounder for the 4th? I'm sure they've offered, but no way the Oilers accept anything like that. Beaulieu and the 9th won't get a team the 4th overall pick this year. Top 5 picks are essentially never moved, and certainly not for a depth defender and a later top 10 pick. It's been 8 years since a pick higher than 8th overall was deliberately traded (Seguin pick in 2011 doesn't count), and that was the Leafs jumping up from 7th to 5th in 2008 to select Schenn.
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Tickets to the draft in Buffalo sold out in less than a minute, and are now appearing on StubHub starting at $100+ https://twitter.com/BNHarrington/status/738014809715793922 Jesus Christ people, it's the most boring poo poo imaginable to watch it live. I say it every year, but having seen a draft in person I can tell you it's not fun when there's no commentary and you're just watching awkward teenagers shake the hands of old guys on stage. No highlights. No analyst interpretation. No trade rumours. It's basically just a very slow highschool graduation where you don't know anyone in it personally. I get that Leafs fans want to see Matthews, but save that money and spend it on an opening night ticket instead. It's way better and you'd actually get to see him do something.
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Doltos posted:Is there any chance the Habs can land Tkachuk or Nylander? The beat writers I've been reading have been saying that they're looking to trade up and the words 'trade' and 'habs' makes me go into convulsions Oilers are dangling the 4th overall pick, so either is absolutely available. However, the Oilers are transitioning into win now so they want a top pairing defenceman in return. I don't think the Habs have anything they'd want (unless they lose their minds and consider trading Subban), so it probably won't happen. Trading down doesn't really make a lot of sense for Edmonton, they will likely just try and go big and trade out of the 1st entirely. Tkachuk is for sure gone top 6, Nylander could slip to 9th though if the stars align.
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Some minor draft pick updates: Coyotes did not sign Connor Bleackley (acquired from Colorado) so get the 53rd overall pick as compensation. No required compensation picks were activated (CBJ retains 2nd from Torts hiring, Toronto retains 3rd from LouLam hiring, Edmonton retains 2nd from Chiarelli hiring)
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Dubois is a good get. I'm totally comfortable with Benning selecting either him or Tkachuk, although my preference is the latter. Doltos posted:Yeah the only way they're trading Subban is if the Rangers have some lovely over the hill 29 year old on a horrible contract. Beaulieu will probably be the asking price and that would suck to give away. Beaulieu and the 9th doesn't come close to equaling the 4th in value. Oilers want a top pairing guy, not a depth defenceman. They could get a better defenceman at 4th than Beaulieu will ever be. Why do Habs fans always talk like he's poised to be a star blue liner? He's 23 and has barely broken into the NHL.
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Jun 1, 2016 23:30
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Craig Button released his final rankings http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-matthews-no-1-because-position-matters-1.503562
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Welp, that's the NHL season folks. The games are played, Crosby gets to spoon the cup again and loser fanbases' dreams of hope once again revolve around awkward 18 year old boys. It's officially draft season y'all! 11 days to go. Final draft order is updated in the OP.
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With Kopitar getting an 8 year $80m extension, there's no doubt in my mind that Stamkos will make the same (or more) on a 7 year deal considering he's younger and a UFA. $9M would be a 'discount,' I can easily see him exceeding Toews and Kane for the top cap hit in the league. His best years are behind him and he's had a series of pretty damaging injuries. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.
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$9M is 12.6% of the cap. In line with an $8.1M cap hit coming out of the 2012-13 lockout. It's actually slightly less percentage wise than what Rick Nash got when he signed his extension in 2010-11, and he was roughly the same age/pedigree. Another comparable would be Brad Richards when he signed with the Rangers as a UFA in 2011-12. Remove the final three back diving years and his cap hit was $9.5M or 14.8% of the cap. An equivalent salary today would be $10.6M. That's a shade over what Toews/Kane make, so I figure that's where Stamkos lands. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:Rick Nash never saw the day when he had anything like Steven Stamkos' pedigree. There's a lot more to it than just being drafted #1. Also there's a big difference between signing an extension and being the subject of a bidding war as a UFA. Rick Nash was one of the best goalscorers in the league for a long time. He won the Richard at 19. But you're right about the UFA status thing. I added Richards because he's a better (albeit older at the time) comparison probably.
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DOOP posted:How are Stamkos' blood clots doing? Well he played game 7 against the Pens on blood thinners, and the commentators were saying that if he got a skate cut during the game he'd likely bleed out. So uh... not great?
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The Dirty Burger posted:They can't afford Stamkos, Datsyuk's cap hit next year is $7.5mil lol There's talk they're offering a package of picks to a team willing to take on his contract next year.
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A stats prof at a second tier university here in Ontario, says his draft model is 10% more effective than actual scouts. Doesn't seem like much, but over the space of 8 drafts that's 4 or 5 more effective NHlers than your competition. Of note, his top thirty prospects has some glaring differences from CSS (mainly it's down on PL Dubois, Jesse Puljujarvi and Alex Nylander and pretty high on Adam Mascherin - a guy I like a lot this year). quote:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...eam_LeadArticle The paper is worth a read if you're bored. Not the most engaging article, but I read through the paper and it's pretty convinving stuff (although the actual method used isn't discussed in depth so obviously take it with a grain of salt). He also misspells a bunch of top prospects names (I don't know if that's the guy who wrote the article or this stats prof), so take that for what you will.
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:The line about Bogosian being a top 5 pick because of his combine is complete fantasy. He was rated a pretty solid #2 before the combine and had very good stats in the OHL on a nothing team. Yeah the article is utter crap. I think he was talking about Schenn perhaps. Bogosian, Doughty and Pietrangelo all had 50+ points in their draft year and were the consensus top 4 with Stamkos. Still, the paper is interesting.
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For all the Canucks fans' hand wringing, I really doubt Benning does anything noteworthy tomorrow at all. He'll draft whichever is leftover between Tkachuk and Dubois tomorrow and leave it at that. He's a terrible GM, but I think he knows he'll lose what little is left of his support if he does anything to make headlines. His real focus is going to be July 1st (and the interview period I guess) where he'll probably splash a good $10-12M per year on the first day. Ugh.
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DOOP posted:Anyone think the Flyers will trade-up/trade for another 1st for the draft? They have a 1st, 2 2's, and 2 3's as ammo. Cant see them using all of those picks and contract slots. They might try and trade up, but not for contract slot reasons. Drafted players count towards the reserve list total (which is 80) until they are signed. A team has 50 contract slots, but that only includes players signed to an NHL contract (which currently sits at 34). You can hold the rights to a bunch more players than you have signed.
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A couple blogs on the Nation Network released a top 60 draft prospect magazine if anyone is interested in reading a bit more about the guy their team takes tomorrow. https://issuu.com/mhenderson95/docs/magazine/1
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Just take whichever is left between Dubois and Tkachuk Benning. Don't over complicate this.
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Eric the Mauve posted:e: Or better yet we can let him run the Canucks just long enough to trade Brandon Sutter, then return to the Penguins Trading Sutter would've been something that was technically possible, except that Benning gave Sutter the first known retroactive NTC in league history. I wish I was making that up. 
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God drat Benning gonna take Juleovi now. Blegh
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The Canucks had a lousy draft and I am not at all enamored with Juleovi. Just so y'all know.
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Hiekkakauppias posted:Even though Juolevi is a finn, he was drafted from the CHL and i don't think he's on loan from Jokerit so normal CHL-rules apply to him, aka. he can't be assigned to AHL until the season he turns 20. Players selected in the CHL import draft are eligible for the AHL straight away once they sign a pro contract. Julius Honka went to the Texas Stars at 18 under similar circumstances.
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Thufir posted:Yeah, I think this is correct and Juolevi is stuck with the normal CHL restrictions. You are correct. Both were selected in the CHL import draft so I figured both were eligible. Dang, oh well. Still, he needs another year of junior regardless.
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