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Ogmius815 posted:Oh my god. White adolescents are not marginalized by society because they are unpopular. Dylan and Eric would disagree.
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So basically for all the non-gamers imagine you just want to sit their and read your Ulysses or some russian literature, while a loud obnoxious group of large women and white dudes with pink hair yell at you and demand that they be given the same amount of respect for reading Garfield the cat comics.
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lynch_69 posted:The fact that self identified hardcore gamers equate AAA video games with Ulysses or Russian literature tells everyone everything they need to know about this topic. Close thread. Not once did I mention AAA games but please keep making assumptions. rkajdi posted:You don't need to, but then you don't get to complain when people criticize you for standing next to them. The people you associate with reflect on you. Note that I play games a good bit (though I doubt I qualify as a gamer since I haven't bothered with AAA games in two generations) and I understand I need to help keep my side of the street clean. It also helps me too, since sunshine has helped get some of the more disgusting parts of Japanese games (sexualization of children, weird levels of misogyny and racism) out of the American releases. Nothing annoyed me more than when I bought Star Ocean: The Last Hope looking for an actionish RPG like the rest of the series, and instead got all the hallmarks of some pedo dating sim (Thousand year olds stuck in children's bodies, crazy levels of fanservice, ect) I get that Japanese culture is different, but I honestly don't care and would prefer to never have to ask around if games had that kind of garbage in them again. As a positive example, Bravely Second making less skimpy outfits for the underage girls in the game while also dumping the Native American minstrel show costumes showed that someone at NoA was actually paying attention for once. This is the crux of the problem with "non-gamers"(you are clearly a gamer) and their criticism of games. You want to dictate the social norms of another culture, because presumably you have such a narrow world view anything that you find questionable or don't understand has to be nixed. No other media form is under the same form of scrutiny as video games. I personally find Schindler's List ahistorical, deplorable, and a jewish fluff piece. That being said I'm still glad that a challenging film that tries to tackle that subject matter exists, that is the central difference video games and other mediums, their critics are grown up enough to live and let live.
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WampaLord posted:
I was more referring to the twitter and op-ed hit pieces or the struggle between gamer gaters and their opponents. I would love more long form criticism of video games.
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rkajdi posted:Yup, you remember Metalgate. Turns out metal fans in general have about the same tolerance for the alt right as punk rockers. Sad Puppies is the better example, and those guys are in the process of getting nutstomped for the second year in a row. The alt right is sort of winning with video games (in that they've cost actually decent people jobs) and tabletop games, though the latter is a much smaller deal due to how far gone tabletop is anymore. The point is that the alt right has been trying to get its tentacles into all the aspects of nerd culture. What is metal gate also national socialism is pretty big in the black metal scene you might want to check it out.
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