[Pedants and insufferable nerds call to arms] How would you define "gamer"

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lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Losers who identify with space marines and are uncomfortable around real people. Usually teenagers or sexless adults.

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 18:51

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Video games are for children.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 02:16

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Sword and Sceptre posted:

Dylan and Eric would disagree.

True gamers...

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 07:28

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

bloodysabbath posted:

And like clockwork, the "conversation" about the meaning of this particular word has circled back to "lol fuckin losers lol fuckin white kids."

Vote Trump, play Halo.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 11:27

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

I honestly think gamers who whine about the sad state of games journalism have this embedded in their brains as to what constitutes proper and honest games journalism:

That, and enthusiastic kids on YouTube gushing excitedly over whatever the PR department sends them this week. If you read any of the big threads in the games forum it's usually a handful of posters endlessly repeating things like TAKE MY MONEY, THIS IS A LICENSE TO PRINT MONEY and OMFG I JUST PREORDERED ALL SEVEN BOX VARIANTS OF ~obscure Japanese JRPG~. They like being excited about their toys, any critical appraisal that goes beyond simple fanboyism will likely get you probated for trolling in Games and, in the case of actual games journalists, rape/death threats.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 11:44

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Sword and Sceptre posted:

So basically for all the non-gamers imagine you just want to sit their and read your Ulysses or some russian literature, while a loud obnoxious group of large women and white dudes with pink hair yell at you and demand that they be given the same amount of respect for reading Garfield the cat comics.

The fact that self identified hardcore gamers equate AAA video games with Ulysses or Russian literature tells everyone everything they need to know about this topic. Close thread.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 07:11

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

afeelgoodpoop posted:

Gamergate got most its energy from the low key black listing and hit pieces games media was doing against developers for years. People would not care about "artistic criticism" unless all that is is saying something is sexist/racist and contributing to social media campaigns to keep it from being sold/coming out.

The problem is someone will eventually ask you for solid examples of these "low key black listing and hit pieces games media was doing against developers for years" and "social media campaigns to keep it from being sold/coming out" and you'll pull some well worn tropes from gamergate.txt which have been debunked a million times before.

To make things worse, the disproportionate toxic reaction totally eclipses the conversation, and you're left with a situation where these young men are so angry and nuts over their video games that Breitbart and other right wing groups swoop in to recruit tomorrow's Republicans.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 11:15

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Dapper_Swindler posted:

http://www.thejimquisition.com/watch-dogs-2-and-the-steam-users-who-hate-black-people/

holy poo poo, people are stupid assholes. I think their echo chamber went full /pol/.

See, and just by shining a light on poo poo like this gets the author labelled as a liberal activist clickbait yellow journalist. It's like you're not even allowed to report on the objective reality of what's going in gaming communities without being called "the enemy".

It's very much a case gamers saying: "Write about video games strictly as consumer items like refrigerators or LED light bulbs and let's collectively pretend it's 1992 where this is a niche hobby that exists in its own plane of reality completely separate from politics or culture."

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 17:29

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Sword and Sceptre posted:

What is metal gate also national socialism is pretty big in the black metal scene you might want to check it out.

Is national socialism also big in online gaming communities, do tell.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 04:59

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Craptacular! posted:

Well that's certainly preferable to "what if I could talk to the monsters in Doom, what would they tell me?" Yet my favorite YouTuber is Errant Signal, who makes analytical thoughtpieces like this. And I can't stand most of the written/blog-format stuff people cite as garbage gaming journalism.

There's a couple factors going on here: one is that the best YouTubers are under no obligation to make a video unless they have something to say. The ones that are ultra popular and make huge amounts of cash on YouTube views are under more pressure and perhaps have less to do, but most of those people are running Minecraft channels. Bloggers have to write articles constantly. The other is by making that much content they're inevitably going to reveal too much of their approach to games, or their political philosophy, or something that breaks with the reader's credo having to make what is basically a daily newspaper. They're going to get attacked for articles like "An Ode to Pikachu's rear end" as though they had to write to meet some kind of content quota and it was a slow news day. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but the pressure to deliver more persists.

It was easier to simply publish a magazine once a month, even the ones that were over 90 pages like mid-90s EGM were mostly ads. The need for space meant at least some stupid ideas got shelved. Now, they're published.

Who gives a poo poo? Don't read those blogs and stick to YouTube videos. It's very easy to ignore things that bother you, at least in my experience.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 13:12

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 18:51

lynch_69: Jan 21, 2001

Yeah the whole "I need impartial reliable fact based game review scores out of 100 so I know if I should buy this game" rings hollow in an age where you can see hours of unedited gameplay footage of every new AAA $60 game that will ever be released. I mean who really sits an reads reviews for the scores to decide if they should buy a game or not? I have a feeling it's a bunch of 30+ year old men like us who grew up with video game magazines and still have some nostalgic attachment to numbered review scores. It's an anachronism in this day and age with endless streaming footage of every new game that's coming out.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 16:52

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