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A gamer is someone who self-identifies as one. It's a way to claim you belong to a group. Christian, gamer, furry, it's all the same.
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# ¿ May 20, 2016 04:39 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 11:58 |
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Are you wet when you do it? Electronic beard machines have created a world where someone might feel smug about not using one.
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# ¿ May 28, 2016 03:56 |
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Indeed, no one is special...
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 08:17 |
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I think that the "are games art" and what is a "gamer" arguments are almost completely separate. One is about subculture and online communities, the other about "what is art", a question no one has concisely and convincingly answered. If you wanna argue about something, I'll say SMAC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Alpha_Centauri is art. Go hog wild.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 09:05 |
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The gamers involved in gamergate or such do not care about what is art, they are afraid of their identity and community of like minded people going away.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 09:39 |
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Ok, the issue is still a perceived attack on their identity, not the artistic merits of games. The attack could be come from any angle, the point is, it is perceived to be an attack.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 09:53 |
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You make some good points. I'd still say, the questions are separate, but games being critiqued as art is a factor in the gamer question. You won. gz
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 10:15 |
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Panzeh posted:I would say SMAC is very dated and hackneyed in terms of its writing- just a bunch of ideological caricatures duking it out with civ2 mechanics but AMPED UP. SMAC has a decent story that fits into the Civ2 mechanics. It explores stuff you find in novels while being a game at the same time. The faction leaders are stereotypes because they serve as shorthand for the story. Even so, they are better characterized than the vast majority of game characters. Whether it's fans are retards or Civ4 mechanically better has nothing to do with the art question.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 14:10 |
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Black metal is weird. When your music is trying to be shocking and about mass murder and satan raping kids etc., you can throw in Hitler to be even more shocking and evil. Is that actually supporting right wing ideologies? Do nazis want to be lumped in with torture fetishists and death cults? I dunno, maybe Sword and Sceptre does.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 10:24 |
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Great Metal Jesus posted:Nah dude, there's actual nazis in the black metal scene. Whether it's avowed racist and convicted murderer Varg Vikernes of Burzum fame, the white supremacists in Inquisition, or the nazi black metal scene in Oregon they totally exist. There are some nazis, sure. Is every black metal band with seemingly nazi lyrics actually a nazi band? Probably not.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 18:23 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 11:58 |
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I've stopped following current events w/r/t black metal years ago, so if it's become genuinely political in the way you are describing, the defense doesn't really work anymore.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 19:27 |