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GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

guys i think ferenghis are using my brain to spy on us

guys?

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Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

dog buttz posted:

Seven of Nine is hot and Robert Picardo is a great actor who played a great character in that show.

Speaking of Star Trek, I watched Enterprise and was surprised at how brutal they could be. "Eh, gently caress the whole planet. Let nature take it's course" and "He'll tell us when the airlock starts to open."

"Hey at some point in the future we might theoretically have guidelines that tell us to let these guys die so I'm just gonna do that now."

That chunk of the prime directive was kinda bullshit, honestly. Just let Worf's brother kidnap the planet if they're all hosed anyway.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

The best Star Trek shows had two people driving the space ships. They went down hill when they only had one person driving the space ships. Bring back two drivers.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Volcott posted:

"Hey at some point in the future we might theoretically have guidelines that tell us to let these guys die so I'm just gonna do that now."

That chunk of the prime directive was kinda bullshit, honestly. Just let Worf's brother kidnap the planet if they're all hosed anyway.

The Federation might be a socialist utopia, but every planet has to bootstrap themselves as technological equals first.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Isaac posted:

Isnt Q like a god why do they need beejays

He doesn't, he just wanted to debase the green starfleet captain for his own amusement.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Powercrazy posted:

He doesn't, he just wanted to debase the green starfleet captain for his own amusement.

Debasing figures of authority seems to be his "thing".

Fucked-Up Little Dog
Aug 26, 2008

Posting live from the nightmare future of Web 3.0




Scratchmo
Voyager was bad

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

Wowbagger2004 posted:

Voyager was bad

Whoa, hey now

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Automatic Slim posted:

Debasing figures of authority seems to be his "thing".

In TNG he was a Loki type character.

Also TNG was the best Star Trek, qtiyd

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


Since I am a sad human being I cycle TNG, DS9 and Voyager and am pretty much always watching Trek. So I'll say this.

The Doctor fared much better over 7 seasons as a believable non-aged character than Data did, mind you Data's makeup didn't play nice after awhile and movies forced him into longer than 7 seasons worth of time.

Watch Voyager for The Doctor, DS9 For Quark and TNG is just great.

edit:

Currently on the Voyager cycle, where Harry Kim is not human and is instead of a race where all the women want to hear his Kimtones if you know what I mean.

Syfe fucked around with this message at 18:33 on May 22, 2016

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Ronald Moore tells us about Voyager.

http://www.lcarscom.net/rdm1000118.htm

quote:

In addition, Moore is bothered by the show’s lack of continuity. "The continuity of the show is completely haphazard. It’s haphazard by design. It’s not like they are trying desperately to maintain continuity of the show. They don’t care, and they’ll tell you flat out that they don’t care. Well, that is misreading the core audience. The STAR TREK, hardcore audience loves continuity; they love accumulating data on these ships. They love knitting together all the little pieces, and compiling lists, and doing trivia. That’s been a staple of the STAR TREK culture from the get-go. People really love the details. They love the fact that the details all add up and make one mosaic, and that the universe holds together. When you don’t give a poo poo, you’re telling the audience: don’t bother. Don’t bother to really learn this stuff, because it’s not going to matter next week, anything that happened this week."

The writer-producers of VOYAGER maintain that they don’t want continuity, so people can watch the shows out of order, for example, now in five-nights-a-week syndication. Says Moore, "I’ve just never believed that argument, because it seems to me that you’re just underestimating the intelligence of the audience. You’re just saying the audience is a bunch of idiots. Who is going to be watching the show in strip syndication five nights a week? People that like that show, and presumably have watched more than one show. Got forbid the stations have to run them in order. It’s an excuse that sounds plausible but is basically a way for them not to have to care about maintaining continuity, because it is tough to maintain continuity. It’s very hard to write in continuity, because of the nature of television. You are writing ahead, and you are writing at the moment, and you are changing things in post. It’s really hard to keep all the ducks in a row, which we found at DEEP SPACE NINE. In that last ten-episode run, where it was almost completely serialized, that’s a tough act to carry off. But it’s also worth the effort, because the payoff is the world has more validity. The audience can sense there is truth in it. It’s a better show, and it will last longer as a result. If you are really just so concerned that this week’s episode won’t make sense because you didn’t see that episode three years ago, why can’t STAR TREK do like ALLY MCBEAL, or THE PRACTICE, or ER, all the big successful shows do. Put a little recap at the top of the show: ‘Previously, on STAR TREK: VOYAGER...’—even if it’s an episode from two years ago. You just quickly get the audience up to speed, because the audience is not stupid. The audience has watched television for a long time. They understand that they have missed some things, that perhaps this is a reference to a show that they didn’t see. They aren’t just going to throw up their hands and move on. If you are pre-supposing that, you are aiming towards the person that is grabbing a beer, and isn’t really paying attention, and is walking out of the room every ten minutes and coming back and sitting down; all you are going to do is dumb down the show. You are reducing it to its lowest common denominator, and what’s the point of that? What do you get out of that? You just get a so-so kind of television experience."

Meme Poker Party fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 22, 2016

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


Eh, I'm not sure I agree with that. DS9 was too serialized, it was just too much at times when I really wanted off Mr. Bones Wild ride and to just have a chill Ferengi episode.

Voyager had enough over the course of time plots that clung together and enough one off stories. Not that Voyager is great, but I don't think it's non-serialized style was it's problem.

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
Voyager had an ok theme tune i guess

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe
One of the tv channels here is showing season 1 of TNG at the moment and its funny how they spent the whole time playing Ferengi up as dangerous and mysterious and so forth, when by the time of DS9 they are the comic relief

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

FuhrerHat posted:

guys i think ferenghis are using my brain to spy on us

guys?

is it legal to gently caress a high school midget?

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Hammerite posted:

One of the tv channels here is showing season 1 of TNG at the moment and its funny how they spent the whole time playing Ferengi up as dangerous and mysterious and so forth, when by the time of DS9 they are the comic relief

Fun fact: Armin Shimmerman plays at least two different Ferengi in early TNG.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Chomp8645 posted:

Fun fact: Armin Shimmerman plays at least two different Ferengi 1930's racist Jewish caricatures in early TNG.

Jose Mengelez
Sep 11, 2001

by Azathoth

Ahundredbux posted:

for example when the doctor went down on some planet

it was shocking to me when the hologram doctor from star trek voyager sucked six billion cocks

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

It's shocking to me that Picardo is held up as a positive point of the show. loving Stockholm Syndrome I tell you what.

Fucked-Up Little Dog
Aug 26, 2008

Posting live from the nightmare future of Web 3.0




Scratchmo




Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Jose Mengelez posted:

it was shocking to me when the hologram doctor from star trek voyager sucked six billion cocks

shockingly hot & good maybe

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Syfe posted:

The Doctor fared much better over 7 seasons as a believable non-aged character than Data did, mind you Data's makeup didn't play nice after awhile and movies forced him into longer than 7 seasons worth of time.

Psst, its easier to act like an aut man-child than do real acting.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004


this is like the most believable phaser hit of the entire star trek

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

someone please post the gif of bashir telling cockblocking dax to go away

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

that isnt it ????

emoji
Jun 4, 2004

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015
I hated the show back in the 90s, because I disliked most of the characters and wasn't able to see past the missed opportunities.

However, I am currently using IMDB to find all episodes with a decent average rating, and I am watching those episodes on Amazon prime. And, I have to admit, now that I am no longer prone to nerd-rage, I think quite a few of the individual episodes and two-parters are actually rather enjoyable.

Is not taking things seriously anymore a sign of growing up? <-- This is not a rhetorical question. I really don't know. I am really wondering why some things that I just accept nowadays used to upset me so much 20 years ago...

Jose Mengelez
Sep 11, 2001

by Azathoth

Ibogaine posted:

Is not taking things seriously anymore a sign of growing up?

its a sign of early onset dementia.

Blood Shart
Sep 23, 2010

In Future's End they go back in time and it's explicitly stated that the only reason the microprocessor revolution happened was because that douche CEO got his hands on the time ship. So how could the microprocessor have also been invented when it was in JJTrek if, in order for the time ship to go back to 20th century Earth, Voyager needed to both exist and be stranded in the Delta Quadrant to kick off the string of events in the first place.
:psylon:

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Every time travel story is poo poo

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
Computer, delete the wife

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015

Jose Mengelez posted:

its a sign of early onset dementia.

Hmmm. I just hope that I will get ridiculously emotionally invested in a TV show one of these days in order to regain my sanity!

Any recommendations? I'm game as long as it doesn't involve dragons or pathetic soft porn for prudes.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Tectonis posted:

In Future's End they go back in time and it's explicitly stated that the only reason the microprocessor revolution happened was because that douche CEO got his hands on the time ship. So how could the microprocessor have also been invented when it was in JJTrek if, in order for the time ship to go back to 20th century Earth, Voyager needed to both exist and be stranded in the Delta Quadrant to kick off the string of events in the first place.
:psylon:


The Sphinxster posted:

Every time travel story is poo poo

Blood Shart
Sep 23, 2010

If Pine-Kirk goes back to Nazi times will he be able to meet Shatner-Kirk? Could Shatner-Kirk then return to JJTrek?

loving timelines

sub girl
Jan 3, 2007

oh screw this ultra banal conversation

Is that food just photoshopped onto a table? Like they couldn't even do a photoshoot of prepared dishes on an actual table?

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015

Tectonis posted:

In Future's End they go back in time and it's explicitly stated that the only reason the microprocessor revolution happened was because that douche CEO got his hands on the time ship. So how could the microprocessor have also been invented when it was in JJTrek if, in order for the time ship to go back to 20th century Earth, Voyager needed to both exist and be stranded in the Delta Quadrant to kick off the string of events in the first place.
:psylon:

I tend to skip the time travel stories. However, the one in which they fought the Nazis in America had a certain trashy charm, I think.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

Ibogaine posted:

I tend to skip the time travel stories. However, the one in which they fought the Nazis in America had a certain trashy charm, I think.

Pretty sure that was Enterprise. You're in the wrong thread.

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Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Voyager is the best series because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8COSRIA3t4

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