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naem
May 29, 2011

Voyager was an almost good fan roll play of tng

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naem
May 29, 2011

naem
May 29, 2011

I mean if they do another trek ever it's just going to be strippers with alien makeup lotioning each other for 40 minutes

naem
May 29, 2011

The warp core is just going to be a stripper pole with some Christmas lights

naem
May 29, 2011

What's with all the forehead crinkles? Everybody looks like a human only with one weird obvious facial deformity plus their shirt is made of oven mitts

naem
May 29, 2011

ENGAGE

naem
May 29, 2011

Just going to leave this here

naem
May 29, 2011

shadow puppet of a posted:

That magazine reads like an inverse of the Fake Cosmopolitan photoshops. Is that real?

edit: holy cow it was real. What a 2002 time capsule.

2002 was early enough that Internet porn hadn't reached 100% 24/7 cultural saturation yet, and maybe there was only one computer with Internet access in the house, probably in the living room

so there was a big market for bikini magazines where aspiring B actresses could crouch sexily in a porno pose with the words "oh yeah 3somes crouch humping uuuuunnnngh sexual EXXTREEEEME"

naem
May 29, 2011

How has there never been an snl skit that crossed cardassian with kardashien

naem
May 29, 2011

cheerfullydrab posted:

My short history of Star Trek fandom.

Half-vulcan/android/former borg/changeling: "I just don't understand what it is to be human."
Cool and charismatic space person: "It's okay, we'll get through this together with the power of friendship."
Lonely aspie child watching these events on screen: "I WILL LOVE THIS FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE."

:stare:

naem
May 29, 2011

I'm pretty sure there's a transporter's Union, like the job pays really well and is hard to get into, solid benefits, and they pretty much can't fire you ever.

Like it's boring and unglamorous but even the captain has to tiptoe around obrian to avoid a really nasty lawsuit if he doesn't get his breaks or a paycheck is incorrect

naem
May 29, 2011

I just noticed that the carpet on tng is that high maintenance 1980's grandma style and that there are vacuum lines showing and wear from feet visible.

Somebody has to replicate carpet tiles and replace them regularly, that stuff wouldn't last more and a couple years. Like an office building people spend 8 hours in gets run down looking pretty quick, people spend their whole lives on this boat 24/7

naem
May 29, 2011

The transporters, security, and a maintenance crew have a union and all hang out in an empty shuttle bay playing cards most of the time since it's the future and everything is automated

naem
May 29, 2011

Obrian is a typical blue collar exmilitary guy turned contractor, he's the shop Forman and the local union rep, and he's running a protection racket on the side where snitches have a "transporter malfunction" and all evidence vanishes

naem
May 29, 2011


Is it problematic that both the black guys have to wear plastic things on their face on that show?

naem
May 29, 2011

JediTalentAgent posted:

Why don't they just beam intruders into space? Seal all decks and release knockout gas through atmospheric controls.

Of if you want to be inhumane, route intruders through to the holodeck and trap them in the hell that is an endless Voyager corridors.

edit: The holodecks seem to run fine with their power supply, so turn this into real-life "Sims" entertainment for the crew with the safeties off.

Releasing waves of flesh-eating bugs, failing life support, etc.

Why not combine the transporter and replicator into a terror weapon that transmutes enemy ship's atmosphere to a writhing mass of screaming sentient flesh and drown them

Why not just have your own dilithium crystal powered holodeck and bury it on an ocean floor, crawl in, and nail the door shut

naem
May 29, 2011

criscodisco posted:

I think something pretty close to that happened in Insurrection and with the big hunter aliens on Voyager

You could just teleport over lots and lots of cheese

"Omg stop, with the cheese" (romulans)

"Seriously stop, it's not even funny guys it really stinks in here GAAAAH" (buried in cheese, flounders)

naem
May 29, 2011

Happily ever after made me feel like I'd slipped into an alternate dimension where the only difference was a new cast of married with children

naem
May 29, 2011

Klingons, cardassians, bajorans, retiring to their quarters after a long day, spending an hour or so scrubbing out their forehead crinkles with q-tips and rubbing alcohol

naem
May 29, 2011

Cthulu Carl posted:

Now I'm like "Unemployment ghettos and labor riots is a really optimistic portrayal of the US in eight years."

:(

naem
May 29, 2011

Temper Trudeau posted:

*Then dies 2 days later like a fruit fly, becomes a glowing ball, and Troi is all "I'll never forget you" as it phases through tritanium hull, never to be spoken of again?

Just a magic space sparkle who lives to fly around ruining women's vaginas with child birth

naem
May 29, 2011

Sunswipe posted:

The series would have been great (or at least a lot better) if they'd actually stuck to the premise of Voyager being on its own. Unnamed crew getting killed in other shows didn't matter because it was believable that Starfleet just sent some new red/yellow shirt grunts to replace them. On Voyager it should have been a big deal. Not only on a personal level, but the work that person did now has to be divided amongst the remaining crew. After a few deaths, things are going to be getting pretty tense just because everyone's overworked. "Yeah, I'd love to help you analyse that strange star, Captain, but I've got to repair our inexplicable biological circuits, clean the spooge out of the holodeck and arrest the seventh person today who's tried to kill Neelix."

Still bugs me that the ship looked as good at the end of the series as it did at the beginning. It should have scarred and patched up. Internal bulkheads should have been getting cut up to patch the hull. It should have been a patchwork of parts from different races they'd encountered.

It really takes no effort to come up with better ideas for Voyager, and so many of them just come from following through on the idea of one small ship, alone, having to cross an indifferent at best, hostile at worst chunk of galaxy.

Also everyone onboard has dated everyone else onboard by season 3 at the latest and now everyone is really burnt out and tense and surrounded by ex's like the waitstaff at a small town Applebee's

naem
May 29, 2011

chaosbreather posted:

the other side that people don't tend to consider is that federation society, being post-scarcity, is intrinsically novelty-seeking. you can see a bit of a preview of that on the internet: people constantly look for 'new stuff' and profit is made off novelty 'going viral'. that's why the most valuable resources, starships, are deployed in missions of exploration.

in older times, europeans would rock up to a place and rape all its precious metals and oil and whatever, but none of that is worth anything in the federation. what they're looking for is novelty. so they find planets, use their insane sensors to record literally anything that's going on on the entire planet, make holographic copies of libraries and poo poo and sometimes even dump sociologist behind duck blinds to strip mine every bit of culture they have to give the humans back in paradise something to watch for the next fortnight. the beauty is that the people of the planet never even know, and that is purpose behind the prime directive.

the prime directive is to protect the novelty value of cultures. if a prewarp civ is uplifted it will quickly become homogenised and assimilated like the rest of the federation, eating denobulan chocolates, drinking saurian brandy, listening to klingon opera, and run their societies on vulcan science and human engineering and they will be, to the rest of the federation, worthless. the prime directive is to not kill the geese that lay the golden eggs.

:riker:

naem
May 29, 2011

criscodisco posted:

You still can't make jizz out of force fields and have it knock a chick up. That's why even in Starfleet everyone treats Data and the doctor nice, but they still knows they're better than them.

I'm pretty sure this is how we discovered warp drive

naem
May 29, 2011

People in parts of the Midwest just pick a decade and stick to it for life it's hilarious

naem
May 29, 2011


https://youtu.be/2AkQX5wdpeo

naem
May 29, 2011

E Equals MC Hammer posted:

speaking of stargate sg-1, for that special episode where they parody a bunch of other sci-fi shows at once, what is the one that is really confusing a parody of?

I think it was the one where they alien planet looks a lot like a Canadian pine forest aka EVERY EPISODE

naem
May 29, 2011

criscodisco posted:

If you're going to go that far, you may as well have every room be a holodeck. It's been shown that it's not an issue to patch holographic terminals into the ship's controls, and you could be in your quarters but also be on duty by having the computer simulate the rest of the bridge crew in real time around you, and you in real time around them.

It'd be a goon dream job, because no one would have to leave the quarters for any reason, and your quarters could have any luxury/appearance you please.

Computer, bring up holo-bridge, now run protocol "nude Tane"

naem
May 29, 2011

criscodisco posted:

When I started college my computer was the only one in the house with the internet, and my dad used to use it to look up Uhura porn and never deleted his history.

Dad straight so what

naem
May 29, 2011

Cthulu Carl posted:

That actually sounds like a good way to unwind after the stresses of the day until you get to the point where you can't actually eat them.

Maybe you can chew and swallow the holo-mass and then make some holopoop

naem
May 29, 2011

What if someone locked you in a holodeck and you lived a full, rich, varied life and then it turns out to be a holo-lie and everything you ever loved is long dead and gone

naem
May 29, 2011

Cthulu Carl posted:

Am I clean-wiping all my poops?

Yes and you and counselor Troy and seven of nine and 2001 era Jolene blalock are all happily married and they all wear high heels and bikinis all the time and make you big plates of chicken wings and like make out with each other an everything

naem
May 29, 2011

Cthulu Carl posted:

You could put me in a Married With Children sim as Al or even Bud - long as I get my clean wipe poops, I'm good.

Al owns a very nice two level ranch brick home, has an easy sales job, married to a hot big boobed woman who wants to have sex like all the time, and has two beautiful children who both grow up to be happy and sucessful

naem
May 29, 2011

shadow puppet of a posted:

Or Mila Jovovitch before she looked exactly the same for the next few decades.

vampire

naem
May 29, 2011

shadow puppet of a posted:

Sleeve is awful, having to look down before you bellow at what you hope is an ensign. Pips should be a thing out in the real world right now. Like so you can know who is the head barista or if you are speaking to someone who was a valedictorian or instead a mere salutatorian.

I want maester chains for my masters degree like in GoT

naem
May 29, 2011

Squizzle posted:

Do you think Picard spells it "transportre" in all of his reports?

le transporteur

naem
May 29, 2011

I'd pay a $1 an episode for unlimited streaming, so $20 something a season

naem
May 29, 2011

criscodisco posted:

Haha, they really don't understand how this works, do they? CBS really is the network for old people.

Some bunch of 60 year old executives had to really be sold hard on this "internet" fad they'd only just heard about

They probably want to charge extra to fit all those shows down a series of tubes

naem
May 29, 2011

Maybe we should get this hot young 47 yr old Internet computer wiz on the case



**dial up modem noises**

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naem
May 29, 2011

Hector Beerlioz posted:

Gloom and grim is hot and in

Can't wait for the grimdark fight scene where every single character looks at each other and yells MARTHA???

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