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Shy posted:Battleborn went on sale today sooooo It's not even a sale, they straight up slashed the price not even an actual month from its release. What I'm trying to say it's even more hilarious.
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TF2 is a clusterfuck of what the gently caress. I tried to play it the other day to feed my need for overwatch and it was... just a mess.
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Bardeh posted:Oh man, this kinda sucks Yes, although you can also do Brawl/Custom Games. Competitive Mode was busted to all hell in closed beta, so I'm glad they're taking their time on it. HardDisk posted:It's not even a sale, they straight up slashed the price not even an actual month from its release. http://steamcharts.com/cmp/394230,428690
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Ddraig posted:Overwatch reminds me of the early TF2 when it was actually balanced and each character had clearly defined roles and you didn't really have to wonder what type of bullshit you would be up against today. This so much. TF2 jumped the shark when they kept adding so much extra nonsense to make it "zany", and it ruined the game.
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Tiggs posted:yes they have individual bindings Ddraig posted:Per hero binds. There's also special options for certain characters, like assigning Lucio's speed boost to holding down shift so it's kind of like a sprint. Sweet merciful jeebus, this is so much better than I had hoped. Thank you both.
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May 23, 2016 18:50
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Zorodius posted:I was surprised that Mei was bottom-tier according to the actual competitive data. Not just because all the casuals, like me, think she's really strong, but because Seagull said he thought she'd be a competitive character. It's because, while Mei is the queen of 1v1s, that's not that great of a thing in competitive play. You see her some in the Korean scene because Koreans are more willing to go with aggressive heroes, which she counters, but in the NA/EU scene, which is what the data is from, her strengths aren't that great, because the typical flanking classes chosen tend to be the ones that either end up in a long drawn out battle before one of them makes a mistake and dies (Tracer x Mei) or ones that are a favorable match up because they can melt her where she can't easily deal with it (Pharah). Her other big strength, which is using her wall and ult to create favorable matchups for her team, is countered by the fact that the meta favors mobile characters, like Tracer, Winston, and Lucio, that can just regroup instantly, or even ignore her wall. She's a great hero, and great fun, she just has only her icicle for ranged presence, and while obviously, it's good if you can land it, it's been made pretty hard to land by charge up time before shots, travel time, and falloff damage.
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Cyron posted:the ranked play in beta was said to be the worst thing about overwatch by everyone in the beta, i am glad it got delayed and not shoved out the door broken, but i hope it not another farahlon where it will never come out. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they put it in there because a lot of people were clamoring, and it's not a totally bad thing they did because now they know what some problems are and can work to fix them. It sucks we won't see ranked at launch but I'm also glad that instead of feeling pressured to play ranked immediately, we have time to dick around and enjoy ourselves while they work out all the fine tuning. Bardeh posted:Oh man, this kinda sucks And weekly brawls, which are fun.
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Jastiger posted:This so much. TF2 jumped the shark when they kept adding so much extra nonsense to make it "zany", and it ruined the game. yeah that's pretty much why I stopped playing, i couldn't keep up with the updates and hat barons
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Kaplan says to be good with each other. May actually be Eonwe
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HardDisk posted:It's not even a sale, they straight up slashed the price not even an actual month from its release. Oh man i'd feel bad but I don't like gearbox soo
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May 23, 2016 18:51
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I'm sad that there isn't really a concrete date for Ranked but definitely glad it isn't in at launch considering what a mess it was before. I trust them to come up with something good
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May 23, 2016 18:53
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afkmacro posted:yeah that's pretty much why I stopped playing, i couldn't keep up with the updates and hat barons I stopped playing because the soldier demo nade rocket spam was outrageous and they introduced more weapons to make them even spammier
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May 23, 2016 18:53
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May 23, 2016 18:56
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Adonis Gunther posted:TF2 is a clusterfuck of what the gently caress. I tried to play it the other day to feed my need for overwatch and it was... just a mess. Jastiger posted:This so much. TF2 jumped the shark when they kept adding so much extra nonsense to make it "zany", and it ruined the game. It was fantastic in its day. When you had a 12v12 of generally competent players like almost always happened on the LCs and Reddit servers it was fire. and then: Poopy Joe was a Monkeynaut who tragically died in an explosion shortly after his rocket took off, due to a lack of Australium fuel. This was caused by Mann Co. in their unsuccessful attempt to rid themselves of weapons involved in a Senate investigation. Mann Co. took no blame for his death, and actually created commemorative plates that remembered Poopy Joe and America's dream of conquering space and Florida. These plates were actually hints of the then-upcoming WAR! Update, depicting the Eyelander, Equalizer and Buff Banner's bugle. During the ARG leading up to Meet the Pyro, new information came to light concerning the death of Poopy Joe. According to leaked pages from Saxton Hale's Senate Hearing, Poopy Joe's rocket seems to have used a fuel source of solid australium. Saxton Hale was present at the launch facility when Poopy Joe and his rocket were prepared for launch to follow the successful launch of Vladimir Bananas. Hale stole the entire australium supply and replaced it with defective suitcase explosives. Once the rocket hit ignition phase, the entire bulk of suitcase bombs detonated simultaneously, causing the rocket to crash, killing Poopy Joe. Mann Co. then covered up the entire incident, denying all knowledge of it. The new Special Delivery map Doomsday has the player transport an Australium suitcase into Poopy Joe's rocket, re-enacting the piece of history. Unfortunately, the rocket crashes almost immediately to the tune of a warning bugle. RIP tf2. You were the best part of the orange box. You don't owe anyone a drat thing. Rest easy, now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XimRzoie80k
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Adonis Gunther posted:TF2 is a clusterfuck of what the gently caress. I tried to play it the other day to feed my need for overwatch and it was... just a mess. it started off being very simple & balanced like this game, the over watch. it is hard to missmanage competitive vgames harder than vavle llc tho, so do not fear
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May 23, 2016 18:58
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totalnewbie posted:What were the issues with ranked play during beta? At first people didn't know it was a best three out of five, so people were leaving after the first round ended, and it also doesn't back fill the spots properly if players leave. I also believe if someone on your team DCs and comes back, they can't get back into the game. They solved the first problem with a pop up when you attempt to enter informing you that it's not like a normal game.
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I feel bad for the people who worked on Battleborn, but what were they thinking? They're going to release right against Blizzard and expect people to flock to their game?
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When I'm Mei in this game, I'm going to build a great (ice)wall. And make the other team's Reaper pay for it.
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May 23, 2016 18:59
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Zorodius posted:I feel bad for the people who worked on Battleborn, but what were they thinking? They're going to release right against Blizzard and expect people to flock to their game? Weren't they they ones that started all the 'Battleborn is the same kinda game as Overwatch' nonsense?
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May 23, 2016 19:00
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Zorodius posted:I feel bad for the people who worked on Battleborn, but what were they thinking? They're going to release right against Blizzard and expect people to flock to their game? it is a very blatant attempt at money laundering because literally no element of it works well and there is no way it would have gotten past anyone with either a brain or eyeballs and greenlit for release
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Zorodius posted:I feel bad for the people who worked on Battleborn, but what were they thinking? They're going to release right against Blizzard and expect people to flock to their game? It's not even nearly the same game as Overwatch but somewhere in development Gearbox took a hard turn for the "make it look like Overwatch so confused grandmas will buy it" marketing strategy.
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May 23, 2016 19:00
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guys lets play this cool gamr tonight
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May 23, 2016 19:01
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Zorodius posted:I feel bad for the people who worked on Battleborn, but what were they thinking? They're going to release right against Blizzard and expect people to flock to their game? standard edition is 59.99 + 19.99 season pass while Blizzard has the 59.99 version up front and center with the 39.99 squirreled away
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Zorodius posted:I feel bad for the people who worked on Battleborn, but what were they thinking? They're going to release right against Blizzard and expect people to flock to their game? To be fair, Blizzard isn't all sunshine and rainbows either. They have a long and storied history of scheduling open betas, free trials, welcome back campaigns, and aggressively stepped-up marketing around the releases and betas of games they perceive to be their competition.
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The open beta client will work as the release client yeah?
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totalnewbie posted:What were the issues with ranked play during beta? 1) There was no elegant solution for handling situations where both teams successfully attacked or defended on an A/D or Payload map, which happened quite often at both low level and high level play (some comp people were reporting that 70%+ of their games ended like this). Instead, if that happened you would play a single round of KotH as a tie-breaker. There's some existing solutions to this from other fps games, namely the always hot-button Stopwatch, but Blizzard seemed adamant against having that sort of system. Still, they recognize the issue, where in the majority of your games you aren't actually being tested on your skill on the majority of maps but whether you can win a Bo1 KotH, and have said they intend to address it in their own way. 2) One month "seasons" which would reset everyone back to, well, no one really knows what it'd reset them back to since there was only one season but that's a pretty awful plan anyway. 3) The way ranking up/down worked made it a pretty awful grind later on. 4) There was only a single "ranked queue," meaning you'd end up against 4-6 person premades when you solo/duo queued. This is excusable for Quick Play because there's no actual reward at stake for winning or losing, but is definitely a problem for ranked.
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Wangsbig posted:it is a very blatant attempt at money laundering because literally no element of it works well and there is no way it would have gotten past anyone with either a brain or eyeballs and greenlit for release Nobody could look at the UI long enough to validate functionality.
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May 23, 2016 19:02
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Eonwe posted:guys lets play this cool gamr tonight Okay!
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Zorodius posted:I feel bad for the people who worked on Battleborn, but what were they thinking? They're going to release right against Blizzard and expect people to flock to their game? i feel nothing but empathy and pity for the people who worked on the game, and nothing but schadenfreude for the higher ups and the company itself
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Eonwe posted:guys lets play this cool gamr tonight sounds good! 
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Until this game implements hats and hat economies it will pale in comparison to the great and mighty game known as TF2, sorry folks.
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Wangsbig posted:it is a very blatant attempt at money laundering because literally no element of it works well and there is no way it would have gotten past anyone with either a brain or eyeballs and greenlit for release or, y'know, people are capable of making a mediocre game the aliens colonial marines thing seems like it was money laundering or something going on there. but battleborn was made by an actual team with actual resources.
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Ulvirich posted:standard edition is 59.99 + 19.99 season pass lol if you didn't spring for the Origins edition for the sweet, meaningless digital loot 
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Ddraig posted:Overwatch reminds me of the early TF2 when it was actually balanced and each character had clearly defined roles and you didn't really have to wonder what type of bullshit you would be up against today. As much as it was good that TF2 avoided having straight weapon upgrades (for the most part) and had side-grades instead, ultimately bloating each class' abilities was real bad. Overwatch should leave each class as-is but slowly introduce more classes over time; that should work out much better. (Pretty sure that's the plan too)
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MacheteZombie posted:Until this game implements hats and hat economies it will pale in comparison to the great and mighty game known as TF2, sorry folks. sure, okay!
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loving americans and your loving timezones loving americans
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YoshiOfYellow posted:lol if you didn't spring for the Origins edition for the sweet, meaningless digital loot my mage needed his baby scientist.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:lol if you didn't spring for the Origins edition for the sweet, meaningless digital loot I'm spending the $20 I saved on weed
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